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Thanks, I just bought a $36 Premier Membership so I could try to recoup my $25 mis-purchase. LOL. Thanks for the help all.

msg me if you have 12 gauge ammo id be happy to swap, i mean id take cash too but not necessary ... but thanks for even considering .

So basically, I do almost all my ammo shopping needs at Walmart across the river... I have done a lot of calculations , permutations, combinations, and good old kentucky windage figgirin and usually I am happily better off at Walmart because, They're cheap AND They don't have shipping. unless I want a specific round/brand/type, OR there is a great deal (Like when ordering from SGAmmo etc. ) I will just hit walmart... generally I buy on my way to the range (for whatever I am going to shoot plus extras ... N also I'll go once and a while to just SHTF stock up...So the last time I was there there was several urban gentlemen cursing, being rude, and going nuts over the 'bentley of bullets' in the Federal HydraShok .40 they had (Which I bought a box of on general principle) and how they were looking for the cheap && Honda Civic of bullets *Tula/brown bear* in like 7.65 or something extraordinarily odd. The dobey gills dopey worker who is always trying to one up me and embarrass me in front of my father wth some sort of "I know more than you!!!: (he doesn't) is doing his same routine with these 4 hood dudes who aren't having it. I just want a few ammos, and he insists on getting everyrhing himself.. Even though there are shotgun value packs on the shelf... he has to get it. So I normally buy Federal Value Pack 100 rd. Multi Purpose load .. 12 gauge, 100 rd pack of 4 boxes of 25... and i usually get 7 1/2 shot but will buy 7, 8, or 7 1/2 whatever is fine. So I bought some stuff to break in my new Remington 870 Tactical Magpul Scrapmaster version , and I needed one box 100rd value pack, 2 boxes Winchester 15rd value 00 Buck, I think I bought 2 boxes of premium 00 Buck of some sort for keeping in the shotgun HD wise, and the Federal Hydrashock .40. I DIDNT NOTICE AT THE TIME HE SOLD ME 20 Gauge. I know I know everyone is going to say its my own fault which I guess it is, I paid for it and left. I get that. BUT, I am trying to say here, I tried to get it myself, he didnt let me , and he was having conversations with the other dudes and me and they were going off about their gun toting, shootemup exploits I also was distracted... Im thinkning, thsi is PA they prob hav guns and I dont, this sucks, etc. And I paid the $25 full retail fro something i can't use. No one will take it even for exchange... what options do I have? I even tried the range, I said look you rent out 20 gauge and sell em ammowhy not swap wth me, "Oh we're not supposed to take back any outside ammo.." Is there anything I can do with these , i dont want the cash just shells i can shoot or store up SHTF . thanks

We have a nice set of several pairs, won't bore you with the details but we have some good ones and we use them occasionally-- the storm gave us a lot of use. Wat I have always wanted and ahve kept telliing mysef I 'needed' was a throat mic / "headset"...never got one. I have lusted and often thought the most useful, practical, tacticool, and most likely to be actually used by me was in the movie "Tears of the Sun" .. The 8 Member SEAL Team have radios which LOOKS simple to me, I googled it, the tacticool commandos online say its called the "DevGru Throat Mic" or "DevGru Operator Throat Mic" (actually named DevGru Throat Mic for sale, not just a dbag saying "Oh Its a DevGru !). The thing is , it's $150. The next best one is like $75 bucks... almost== everyone online seems to agree the $150 works great, the $75 does or does not work... and there are assorted cheaper things bit not sure of... I guess i just have to buck up and see what happens with what I buy and receive.

THIS IS also of particular interest to me, I would like some bedding and perhaps overall general TLC applied to my new Remington 700 AAC-SD

Note of update- I was fortunate enough to check out and try out-eye out some scopes last night... I was going to purchase a Saiga 12 from CMO... the punk kid that "helped us" with me and My Dad, actually did not like me. He had the nerve to answer my Dad's questions with, "it's whatever". Im serious, two serious questions my Dad asked about the shotgun before he would buy it, and he says... "I don't know...it's whatever.." ?... "yeah, I don't know, who cares, it's whatever." My Dad just shook his head and walked out. I was going to explain to him in an extremely prejudicial way that is not how you speak to my father but there was a lot of customers waiting to look, listen, learn, and lust over the guns so we just bounced.. but before walking out the gunsmith Pierre? i believe and one of the gents who sold me the Remington 700 AAC-SD asked if I had picked a scope yet And then showed me some. I have of course progressed to Buy Once Cry Once but I also demand the best deal possible before I buy something. Now I am therefore generally extremely satisfied with almost all my firearms related purchases especially all my optics. (I learned the NcStar lesson a long time ago) I have two Nikon ProStaffs 4-12x40mm on my .22LR sporter rifles, my 597 wears a 4-12x40mm "NikoPlex" reticle (Basically a fine duplex) and my Mk II wears a 4-12x40mm BDC reticle (Nikons awesome Bullet Drop Compensating reticle which you can hook up and cook up with their online Spot On software) ... and I got them for only $160ish each, which now go for like $220 and worth every dime. So I was kean to try out the Nikon Monarchs. They were okay. I like that they are 'top of the line scopes' for $5-$600 max max, and they are pretty high magnification and quailty. BUT then we tried out the Leupolds... which are just so awesome. People say they're overpriced and overrated need to try the good ones. I am just a little shy about buying a $2000 Mark 4, but the VX3 and VXR's are amazing. I mean so clear... The one i tried which I believe was a VXR 4-12x40mm Boone and Crockett reticle (which is a hunting style take on the militaristic range finding reticle often seen on movies where they are simulating super sniper scopes on the camera)... IT WAS AMAZING. I mean I am therefore so hooked on the Leupold. I really did like the idea of an illuminated reticle... And leupiold has a 4-12x40mm Ballistic reticle I really really liked... But I am looking for 4.5-14x50mm minimum ... And thatis a Zeiss speciality...there are a bunch of Zeiss Conquest options at 4.5-14x50mm and Zeiss is just Zeiss. So I am yet to buy yet, I just figure I am spending $1000 on this scope minimumso I want it to count. Its not like I am buying a 200 scope and then upgrading after I save. (I may still go back to what was my dream scope at one point, the Trijicon AccuPoint 5-20x50mm..) I just have never experienced it so I am curious to know just how illumination the retilcle really sees.) Okay hopefully I will have pics with scope soon.

Yeah I saw this I really really like it. The one thing that prevented me from buying it on the spot (ordering it online I mean) is that, its a large shape like the military special forces laser designators... I want to use it on my M930SPX and mount it on the factory supplied top rail, I'd remove the Aimpoint Micro I have (use it elsewhere),. move the LPA Ghost Ring Sight aperature/device to the rear of the rail and put the laser on the rest of the rail... IT LOOKS like it would fit both length wise and height wise BUT its a lot of money to not be sure... So I am not 100% sure. I KNOW I could use a Lasermax Genesis rechargable miniature sized green laser on there but I haven't actually purchased it yet.

John and RifleMan thank you very very much!!!! i had a long long post typed out thanking you and saying stuff but my dog pawed the keyboard and ruined it so I will try to just say a few extra things. As I might have mentioned this was one of my long time sought after weapons and was what Iassumed would be my first long gun purchase.. After securing my firearms paperwork I had only one pistol permit and my firearms purchaser ID card... I basically went out that night I received my papers (Which was a Friday afternoon and as it happens my week of vacation from work at the time ..) and bought my handgun which was for better or for worse easily done as it had already been decided. Then I KNEW I wanted a Remington 700 like the Army and Marines sniper rifle. The Remington 700 SPS Varmnit seemed to be so perfect for me, it LOOKED like an authentic military sniper rifle, it was a Remington 700, it was available easily at Dicks and only $499.99 and a package!!! BUT I read how it wasn't so good.. One problem I found on the SPS line, the Varmint particularly bu across the board was the 'terrible stocks.' . Mine has more than the standard issue terrible terrible Chinese injection molded junky herkyjerkywontworkie plastic stock. I at least have a Hogue OverMolded stock..Which is pillar bedded... it looks a little cooler,. is a little better..has the great grippies, a Hogue recoil pad... a decent pistol-grip-typed handle, etc. NOT AMAZING but not something you have to trash and then cash a more expensive stock ImmedIATELY... now I am sure a better stock is all the neccessity and better option... BUT-- for a while it will be more than just serivceable. Also it is absolutely perfect for me. it will last me a lifetime and is super effective a 20" heavy barrel , threaded, with a protector, sling studs... I can bipod it, maybe put a flash hider or muzzle brake, (Make it an AAC to match, or maybe even a BattleComp 308 why not eh?) And even though its not a Savage Law Enforcement, which is nice, don't forget it IS a *Remington 700*, basically the king of stock sniper rifles and the most upgradable rifles on the market... I will use it as a SHTF precision rifle, tactical force multiplier, a carry-all gun. I will bipod it, sling it, (Harris and Vickers Blue Force) .. and maybe a soft stock shell carrier...THEN When I carry one of my shotguns (Which would go everywhere with me in a SHTF situation) or even an AK, 15-22 etc. i will strap it to my back and the great thing about the Blue Force Vickers is being able to tighten it down for carrying on the back, loosen up to carry-ready up front, and even loosen totally for ease-of-use up front... And to be honest with my 870 and 700 together I am ready for most any and all SHTF situations in my direct neighborhood. Anyway I am scoping next... mostly Leupold, although i DO Want a Zeiss ... Nikon Monarch if I'M saving maximum money. Thanks again! I will have to get a Har

So I finally bought me my Super Scrappy Sniper System, on the Day After election day no less!!! I had been looking for a bolt-action tactical rifle in the 'sniper rifle' style for some time. I have grown up with firearms and family guns/ friends guns my entire life, lucky as cops kid you have the ability to shoot before a lot of other people do... so I didn't need to buy them right away and when I went to college my friends/brothers/etc. of western Pennsylvania have hunting and shooting in their blood and family ties... I didn't need to buy a gun/rifle/etc. to shoot. When I finally got my paperwork to buy my own and start my collection portfolio I was sure a sniper rifle would be my first purchase... I had ALWAYS wanted a Remington 700 as that was the military snipers used and when I read how the Army M24 SWS and the Marine Corps M40 were Remington 700 .308 rifles, I was hooked. Dicks Sporting Goods had Remington 700s for sale and at the time, there was an ideal gun for me, the Remington 700 SPS Varmint, ... Combo package,. 3-9x40mm scope and 26" bbl in OD Green stock ...for $499.99 I thought it was IDEAL!!!! A lot of people online (Glock Talk etc.) talked me out of it. My hesitant stance then led to my tastes changing, I went first with a.22 (Remington 597 from Dicks was an exact match for the SPS Varmnit) and then I got hooked on 22s, bought 3 .22LRs in 3 months , 2 black shotguns in the 2 months, etc. Anyway I decided to hold off but always wanted one.. but I decided to make sure my purchase would count. I had wanted a Savage to be honest... a LE Series Savage of several models, the 10 Precision Carbine was my first choice. CMO would not accept a transfer from Buds Gun Shop because they hate them apparently.. but their price was $662 and CMO wanted $789... and it was something I wanted ASAP. So I had the choice of a few lesser rifles at CMO... or then I narrowed it down to two, this gun I bought or a Kimber 84 LPT... the Kimber was beautiful but over $500 more and well.. I am going to put a top level scope on this and a lot of pimping/accessorizing. IMHO I would prefer a fully equipped and decked out Remington 700, with a $1000-$1500+ scope... than a Kimber with a $2-$300 scope and thats it. Well I am extremely ecstatic with this purchase. I went in on Election Day and when I took out my wallet they informed me NICS was closed... So I dammitly had to wait to the next day... When I went it in was pretty packed at CMO but I waited 20 mins for help then said, LISTEN I am ready just write that one up. Other people were busy kicking tires. They then had me do paperwork and called it in. While they were calling it in, about 30 more people showed up, now it was 3 people deep at each spot at the counter. It took me about an hour for them to take the phone call (Once they get on the phone with the person, I usually am pretty good... I have probably bought a lot of new guns compared to others so its been smoothed out)... by the time the hour was up and they got on the phone and did my approval, the wait had gone from 1 hour, to 2-3, to 4 hours. I just chuckled because it was MADNESS in the store at that point. While we were waiting I had the gunsmith install me a Leupold one piece scope base and set of rings.. I was thinking about buying a scope but it was so busy I thought, just wait and do it later. So now I am busy with internet searches of scopes, etc. I am leaning towards a Zeiss or a Leupold VX3/ VXR. I don't have quite enough for a Leupold Mark 4 ... but I will be happy.... Without further adu here are my pics@ (With another new member of my portfolio and my Remingtonfamily) using candy from Halloween to obscure the ID #'s lol. More pics will be added as I update this and add the accessories on.

Edited... Nevermind Ray. Whatever.

No problem bro, not that you are looking to do any exact copy of my Big Hossman Bassman ... but I would be happy to snap some better pictures if you want/need and tell you my exact pieces and upgrades. I am also seriously considering doing the 'upgrades' of parts to make it equivalent to the 870P and maybe even, what I REALLY want, is to have it parkerized!!! \

Uhh... thanks? Anyway, James, as that wasn't really part of the question, all I can say is I am more than completely satisfied with having an 870 and would not buy nor own an 887... if gifted I would sell or trade. But I am extremely exponentially extraordinarily happy with the results of this 870 project and am proud as puppypapa as well.

i JUST bought an 870 Tactical with the express purpose of hooking it up really awesome and customizing it. I had plenty of dough set aside and price was not a problem nor consideration so I could have put whatever I wanted on it- I knew I would go the Magpul route and that's what I did. The Magpul SGA 870 Stock is AMAZINGLY awesome and not only is it extremely comfortable... It SHOULDERS amazingly, it HOLDS amazingly, and it makes the gun point better than almost any other gun I've held and pointed/swung around a little. I then added the Magpul buttstock recoil adapter and a LimbSaver recoil pad- Oh man. This is now about the most ideal combat shotgun pump you could have. With the Larry Vickers Blue Force Gear sling it not only points and feels great, it stays glued to my body in a perfect position, Extremely easily adjusted to throw behind my body/across my back/back to the front for hanging-ready position / ready to silently shoulder and lock stock shoot. I am not much of a folding stock guy ... Perhaps because NJ has raised me to deal with straight stocks and non adjustments. BUT- even though I COULD put whatever I wanted on a pump shotgun like this- Magpul it is. Just TIFWIW, YMMV.

The thing with the 887 is , according to some guy who is basically one of the nations if not worlds expert Remington shotgun guy, and he posts on a few of the bigger gun forums, (TERRIBLY egotistical and rude guy but apparently he is the real deal as an 870/1187 gunsmith) - the Remington 870 is the same shotgun across the board. The 870 "express" like I have is basically made with an inferior finish, and about $30 parts less, than say the Police model and with inferior finish and furniture to the Wingmaster models (which are beautiful of course.) OTher than that an 870 is an 870 is an 870 and the 10s of millions out there proves its veracity and ability / durability of the model. THE 887 IS NOT an 870, and during one post he explained how different the 887 was internally etc. and showed the amounts of different parts in the parts lists etc. Now some people would say. "Well sure its the upgraded model!! " But in this case that is not a good thing. So for ME, the 887 was never an option. a 590A1 was and still is but I want a particular one or two models of the 590A1 and would not compromise, CMO had a few 590s and one 590A1 but I did not want to spend $650 on something i did not really like. CageFighter I know EXACTLY how you feel, this is my first time posting on here in over a year , there somewhere is an epic thread where I expressed my concern with a previous trip to CMO etc. and was basically told in three pages, by a lot of posters., "Well you must be doing something wrong because they are nice to me.". Well, wht else do you want me to do, I had 5 figures worth of cash to go blow on toys, and no one wanted to help me , so no offense, cash holding customers get a little leeway and after you ignore me long enough Im out! I just wanted to buy something RIGHT THEN AND THERE so I wound up at Dicks, and could not be happier. I forgot to mention, I also bought the Magpul buttstock recoil pad adapter and a LimbSaver, and it not only installs in seconds and goes together in a jiffy, to absolutely MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE.... I mean it is like a GLOVE and it works so well, I could not see NOT having one after the LimbSaver revolutionized how my M930SPX feels and shoots. Now I have two absolutely awesome, top of the line combat shotguns, and I have made my custom mods etc. (Aimpoint Micro/LimbSaver/sling/etc. on the M930SPX, full on customizing of the 870) ... Im telling you, I was anti 870 for a few years because they were so popular, now I am totally happy with mine.

I had typed out an almost complete message that I deleted... Well.. what the heck, I'll do it again. I recently got a nice chunk of 5-figure-change and went to spend some money on guns... the two Rt. 130 shops didn't want to do anything but their usual nothingness... I am pretty sure I embarrassed one of the jackaces at Cheyenne who ignored me until I took out a bank-banded-bundle of $5000 ... and while holding it up suddenly my 15 minute ignored wait was greeted with "OH YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING!!!". They lost my business when he made it known he had other Mossberg and Remington shotguns in the back but he wanted to know if I was buying one before he went back and looked, or was I just looking and trying to take up some time. ..... ??? Other place didn't even acknowledge me. so I took my money to Dick's Sporting Goods and came out with an 870 Tactical by Remington. You can check out the specs I'm sure everyone knows what they come with... I added the Magpul SGA Stock and Forend for the Remington 870... Also added the Forend Sling Mount *AND* An additional pushbutton sling swivel which makes all the difference... I added the SGA Receiver Sling Mount in the rear. Having the Forend Sling Mount and Receiver Sling Mount on one side, then the Sling Swivel on the other side + the stock's sling strap mount area.... it lets me use say my Magpul MS2 sling in a single point and two point configuration (JUST LIKE a 15-22 for example but you gotta watch your nuts) OR it lets me use... The Larry Vickers Blue Force Gear 'Combat Applications ' sling... AWESOME.idea awesome rigging up. I tightening it up properly, rigged it nice, and it has an amazing quick-adjust so you can quickly adjust from say carrying up front to combat, carrying long-term across the back to tactical-presentation up front etc. I was going to add an Aimpoint Micro on this like my M930SPX which makes all the difference, but I want this one to be a lean mean metal machine... it is my 'backup shotgun' and don't want to worry about scratches/dings/dents/etc. And I actually wanted a M590A1 as I had said, CMO didn't really have the inclination to assist me.... and they had a few 590s/500s/etc.but not the exact one I wanted. Sportsmans had a Benelli Nova Tac whcih I wanted a Supernova Tac but might have bought it if they had helped me. next up is maybe a Krebs or Atlantic Vepr / perhaps a Savage/Rem .308 'sniper'.

Accidental post. Edited and deleted. Sorry.

he is it a real benelli stock? Did you get the gun and/or stock brand new? aNDN who did the work? Please tell please tell.

Listen when I was new to guns I bought two different NcStars. One I bought was the little D4B or something like that, it's a holo-sight type deal with 4 reticles. This was over priced at like $70-ish? at Cheyenne. the other is a larger, big red dot with quick release mount and also a bright red laser. you can use just the red dot, just the laser, or both. This was like $100-ish. The little holosight was for my 15-22 and the biigger one I bought for my Dad's Zastava PAP present. The holosight, well you can't adjust the reticle. you need to pick a reticle, zero-Zero-ZERO that bad boy, lock it down and then never mes with it. It was working fine one day till in mid-magaine at the range it split in hlf. Literally the top half broke off from the bottom half. CMO tried telling me "Oh it just came unscrewed you just screw it back on." LMFAO, yep ni problem let me screw half of my scope back onto itself! the other one was junky from the get go and still is. I guess it does as is advertised, it shines a red dot in the center of a glass tube, and shines a red laser out when you do that. It's just junky. Never holds zero and the quick release doesn't hold the rail too good. I would have definitely been better off buying once and crying once. Bu hey, live and learn. A lot of people including forum members here, have had great success with their stuff, and some of their rubber coated tactical scopes appear to be huge fan favorites.

You know Iwanted to like the show but there was a Whooooolle lotta dooshy mc doosh's on the show... Some people looked like genuine coool dudes others, man, I would be ashamed to be related to.

they have an AWESOME LMT Defender MRT/CQB 16 something or otehr for like $1600-ish... $200 stock already pinned, monolitic railed upper, i beieve BUIS, piston of course, etc. IF Anyone wants my Home Bar, I was trying to sell for like $3,000 and now i'm taking less, you can just buy me one of these and have the bar and equipment.

I am under the impression that it is fine- My Pop got himself a camp site / travel trailer last year because he was bored one day and sort of bought it- I wound up getting him a Zastava PAP for his 60th bday with the idea it would be for his mountain place. Now I called the PA state police and they pretty much said the same stuff NJ's do, "We can't offer you legal opinions etc" but generally if you're real nice to people, they're nice back. So I explained exactly the situation and I got generally a "As long as you're obeying the laws you're fine.." Because I also wanted to know about PA Open Carry when I'm there and whoever said it above is right- you can't have it in the car unless you have the CCW permit BUT if you have it properly stored in your car, theoretically when you cross state lines, and get somewhere, you can pull over and take your gun out and wear it open carry. Just can't open carry it in the car. So I would say the travel trailer / campsite is fine, I go under that belief for our own use, but I'm of course not 10000% the law.

I'm not quite sure why the attitude was necessary, twice, I have been nothing but cordial to you. In fact I believe I was particularly cordial when trying to do business with you, but you had set prices and would not budge, and your response was "Find the same thing with a better price and please show me. " So unfortunately I did not find your special mount you made for the Special Forces available, I did however find the Aimpoint Micro R-1's on sale for $299, so I was able to get two of them for less than one of your 'special deals'. Now I am reading insults from a few who , now are not only insulting me but Primary Arms as well as "cheap Chinese knock-offs". Its funny, the several people in this thread might be the only people I've ever heard/read speak negatively about Primary Arms. Almost UNIVERSALLY the internet firearms forums sing their praises and the contact I have had with their people in the two years I've been a buyer, has been par none. But now that I am interested in, Check that- Interested in ASKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S EXPERIENCE WITH that are forum posters here, the Primary Arms magnifiers and not only have you something negative to say, you make sure you follow up directly to me with an extra remark. You stay classy, San Diego. I already think of you and laugh when I look at both my Micro R-1's I got at such a remarkable price because I refused to cave into your personal messages that I would not find a better deal anywhere absolutely not. Well I waited a few weeks, and as I have no night vision or even the ability to go as deep underwater as the T-1 can go, I got a much better deal. Thanks though, in a way I much appreciate it, I would have been So P#$%$E'd at myself if I bought your hot deal instead of two R-1's for $299.99 each. And lastly, it makes sense to me, that's all that matters. And judging from the reading I've already done with the magic thing called Google, everyone else agrees but a few here so, that just further cements my wanting one. Thanks buddy!

I got an email back and it was like, Forget you son, we ain't helpin none, you can't get $%#* and HAHA HArdee harr harr on you yoo!!! ^^ That is a direct quote BTW. Even used a southern accent.

yeah how do you like it, it looks great! I have seen some AWESOME looking rifles that were DPMS. in fact I saw two completely different ARs at Cheyenne, different ends of the spectrum differrent areas on the rack. Both of them I'm Like Whoa, lemme see that bad mother trucker. What is THAT? DPMS! Same thing with another. I bet you love it and lots of DPMS owners love theirs.