Jon

As expected, I aptly represented Team CSS with my craptastic showing. Lol.

Older than the internet, but still funny as hell.

XD-slim.

I shoot plated bullets all the time, but I suck too much for bullet choice to cause much of a difference. If I were to shoot an area match or something where money was on the line, I would go for a quality jacketed bullet, such as montana gold or precision delta.

How many no-shows were there? I missed registration so I shot steel instead.

Gun looked great yesterday. You need some lighter ammo though! That thing was jumpin all over the place and slinging brass into the next county.

I concur with this review. Loved shooting this thing, and can't wait for it to hit the gun counters.

Just realized I never updated this thread. Must have posted in another one. I shot my SPP loads(same data as LPP) and they shot just fine with no noticeable change in perceived recoil. Need to get them over a chrono to be sure the velocity didn't change.

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The range master is full of shit. That is a myth.

I'll see you guys there.

And load em up to major. 31 rounds of 115gr at 1500fps ftw.

You need a 2011 in 9mm.

Ok, and that has what bearing on this conversation? You inferred that the US Military used .45s because they are better, and I pointed out that they do not have the ability to use modern hollow points in 9mm. If they did, I'd be pretty sure those special forces units would stick with 9mm. When you're talking about ball ammo, yes... bigger is better.

US Military is not permitted to use modern expanding ammo.

This is not the Politics section, please stay on topic. Inouye's story is certainly incredible, and he was one hell of a soldier.

Okay, so you need rifle velocities, or bullets two times the size of a typical 45acp. Typical semi-auto handgun calibers will not generate hydrostatic shock unless loaded to the absolute envelope, and even then, they are just barely approaching the ft-lbs needed to do so. ETA: You're also talking about the density of a watermelon, which has nothing to do with the density of human flesh.

Bought legally out of state? Yes. Can you own guns purchased legally out of state? Yes.

Seems like all of these loads are within 50-100ft-lbs of one another. I really don't think there would be a damn bit of difference between any of them. Now, 10mm, .44 mag, etc... an argument can certainly be made. But not for 9mm vs 45.

Tactical requires the item to be black.

Hrm, looks like even the insanely hot Buffalo Bore 230gr .45 +P can hit the 500 number. 10mm does, however!

Very interesting article, thanks for sharing. It does however mention a "threshold" of 500ft-lbs, of which not even a 230gr Speer Gold Dot can achieve at the muzzle.

The recoil springs are supposed to be good for 20k rounds before replacement. HK has a service life of far far beyond 20k rounds.