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Gutting and sectioning large animals does often require a bit of breaking in, but if you do it annually or so it will be less of an issue over time.

They may not be under any obligation to interpret the law, but they sure are obligated to know it. Especially in the firearm division where they answer calls from the public about firearms and related topics. And they are indeed also obligated to answer questions, this with factual answers. If they don't know the answer then they are obligated to say they don't know and advise you of that fact, not dispense an incorrect answer. It is their lack of knowledge of the laws they are paid and trusted to enforce that is absolutely unacceptable, not this man calling them in order to avoid breaking the law. Period.

As do I and also as does our friend who's comments you chose to mock. Of course our laws are garbage, we all know this. But a wise and well known man once said: "There is no freedom without the law". We just need far better ones in place.

This statement reeks of pure arrogance. You know exactly what he meant and are looking to make someone feel stupid.

I was instantly aware of the poor wording and made an immediate correction, however you were very quick to the trigger and also I suppose edits don't show up here. What I was trying to say and did clarify was that this could possibly be used down the line as justification for easing some of our horrific possession laws.

I agree, it is absolutely by no means a given that there will be any sort of positive outcome to Christie's review. However that said, he being a fairly sensible human being there may be a glimmer of hope. Surely it would not only be justice but also a fantastic precedent that could be used to highlight the pitfalls of such stringent laws.

This is pure gold. I, along with so many others, grew up with him. But I don't remember this memorable clip. Such a show could never exist in the current PC world, regardless of the factuality of the content. Again, brilliant find and thanks for sharing. Have to post it on my only other forum.

Actually, forgot there are two Monroe Twps in NJ. One central and one south, aka Williamstown.

It's the liberal version of a gun club.

You stole my thunder. Welcome, Reed. I am in Williamstown several times per week, know the town well.

Saw this story, made me ill on several levels as both a gun owner and a father. These poor people have some real, real bad luck going right now. One top of the 14 guns, really wish I could do something to help them get the child's items back. Really nothing to comment on, I suppose. Just helping us remember that things could be much worse than they are today and to always expect the unexpected. Dead baby's mementos stolen in burglary Friday, August 27, 2010 HOUSTON, Del. - August 27, 2010 (WPVI) -- A Delaware family is hoping to get back mementos of their late infant daughter, which were in a gun safe that was stolen from their home this month. The family of Peyton Ratledge, who died July 12th at 24 days old, says the safe, which contained 14 firearms, also held photos, her birth announcement and obituary, pacifiers and a funeral book with a lock of her hair. The infant's mother, Jessica Ehlers, says several items of Peyton's clothes were also in the safe. Delaware State Police say the burglary took place late Aug. 5 or early Aug. 6 in the 2600 block of Gun and Rod Club Road near Houston. Information about this crime was only recently released. Anyone with information is asked to call Delaware State Police Troop 3 at 302-697-4454 or Delaware Crime Stoppers at 800-TIP-3333. http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7635176

Now that is a sensible response, no doubt. But again please understand, a forum that allows it's GD to run amok will eventually pay a price. Especially if the nonsense is allowed to spread into the tech forums. I have seen it happen before, that's all I can and probably should say. I want this forum to succeed and grow. The desperate state of N.J. needs such positive influences, so long as they stay positive. Once they become a haven for infantile gibberish, they lose clout. It's a simple dynamic. Have a good evening and no hard feelings I hope.

Thank-you for the kind gesture Ray, however the two extremely noble men in my avatar are Gary Gordon and Randall Shughart. They absolutely define nobility, so I am proud to help them be remembered any way I can.

Sheer brilliance on top of spectacular diplomacy. Thank-you for the worthy attempt to quell the issue as a representing member of the staff. Please remember, I am trying to help you guys, not make enemies here. Whether you realize it or not is up to you.

You know Ray, in the face of such brilliantly defined logic I will submit. Submit to the fact that you are essentially a clown who is here to entertain those of lesser intellect. By the way, do you actually know anything about firearms? If so, can you give me a demonstration up at Ft. Dix sometime? I need the help, so please make yourself available some day soon. I would love to meet you and partake in your infinite wisdom if you are actually old enough to be a member.

You just made my point, as we do in fact persecute those extreme few that wrong in the name of religion here in America just like they do in most other civilized western nations. So no, everything does in fact not go in the name of religion and we are free to eliminate aspects of any which are deemed detrimental to society. Bottom line, you are either clearly out of your intellectual league here or simply just don't pay attention to the world around you. There is no comparison to a woman not being a priest and a woman who cannot show any skin (except her eyes) or be alone with a strange man anywhere. One is trivial, the other is completely oppressive. And have you ever seen a stoning video, the penalty often paid in rural areas for such crimes? There is no comparison to a Christian who vows acceptance of other faiths and a Muslim who vows to send all non-believers (Infidels) to their deaths. There is no comparison to a smart bomb targeting militants which accidentally kills civilians and militants that deliberately target civilians. How about the Taliban throwing acid on girls as they try to attend school? Any of this going on locally that you know of, champ? You are wrong. Your argument is ideological, baseless and borderline offensive. Learn about things before you discuss them, especially while among those that may have lost friends on 9/11. Lastly, I know not all Muslims do these things. But their silence has demonstrated a disturbing level of complacency. Until that changes, I want as very few here practicing their hostile religion as possible.

I am also a Catholic who also does not attend church nearly enough. Been years, in fact. As well, I am neither far-right nor am I "hard core" religious. I pray at night, thank God everyday for my 6 year old, help people that need it and that's about it. That said, I and most sane others do not want to see Islam accepted here in the US to the extent that we have Sharia courts established like they have managed to do in the in the now suicidally politically correct UK. Think it can't happen with the spineless, self-loathing, appeasing liberals we have in power right now? We need to end this bullsh*t before it gets out of hand here as well. Period.

Thank-you buddy. I will consider Barnegat.

Holy crap, what a clusterf*ck this thread is. What is going on here with some of you folks? Most responses display either ignorance, immaturity or denigration. It's so bad that it is impossible to tell who is serious and who is actually attempting to have a rational discussion. If anyone here doesn't understand the fundamental threat Islam posses to our way of life then they better start following what is happening in Europe as we speak. If you don't know what I am talking about then you have no place criticizing anybody here for expressing serious concern. And as far as some of the "religious persecution" crap being slung here (assuming it's not sarcasm), do we allow polygamy? Child marriages? How about male dominance over women? There are always exceptions being made to that rule, this in the name of common sense.

MDTS does these in NJ and having been thru all three, I can recommend them. There is a pistol class coming up on 9/11 in Old Bridge. I've only taken a First Steps class with GunForHire when I first got my FID so have no first hand experience with their other classes - but they have a good reputation, and Anthony is a good dude. Errr....any chance you know of any groups in South Jersey? Been thinking of taking a ride over to Bristol (PA) for the day, but I'd really rather stay in state if possible.

Now that I have thought a bit more about all of your brilliant statements here, I am going to crawl under a rock for the rest of the day in shame. How could I possibly have been so misguided in regard to this stellar thread? Listen dude, you may entertain some with your childlike antics and comments, but you will turn off many more than you realize. I am just putting my neck on the line here as a relative newcomer and telling you because I am not worried about the ramifications from the likes of yourself. You represent no threat to me whatsoever. What I am worried about is this seemingly well organized forum either dissolving or just going stale due to either a lack of new members or a lack of respect by professionals for some of the population here. There is another local group that I could use as an example, but I will refrain. Again, I know this is GD, but you post your silly stuff all over the forum.

My money would be on "military". Either way, the basis for this conversation is beyond asinine. To think that these fools in the state have us law abiding folks working so hard to decipher such irrelevant minutia is simply pathetic.

I think it must have been deliberate wording, this because there's just not enough etched on there to screw it up unless they were extremely negligent. But either way, I still don't get it. Does the variation "CAL 30 ML" comply to the NJAG guideline or does it not? I figured you must think they are still OK since you have them marked as "Now NJ legal" on your site. Wow, am I confused.

Fixed it for you.

Unless they produced a line of "properly" marked ones to be sent here to NJ, this brings us right back where we started. No different than a MT6400 instead having AR15 on the receiver.