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Dude, they have awesome gear, gotta check out the web site. I have a few t's and wish I had more room in my closet. If I could only get rid of some of those skeletons I keep.

I like cats, with Lo Mein noodles of course. I've always had a cat or two around the house. Need something to kick at the end of a rough day...lol.

Need a good laugh? Check out this video. Warning, don't be drinking coffee or any fluids while watching. For you civilians, if you don't get a joke, ask a veteran.

Nice. I've been trying to explain a lot of this to a friend who is new to the sport. This will help.

Points that are important to me and my partner on this venture. Can you commute to work if you need too? Can the property be zoned for a 'commerical business' if you desire in the future? Can you check in on the property during the week and still be at work the next morning? How well do you know the area? Will you be considered and outsider, a damn Yankee, or friggin Joisey Guy? Will your dialect automatically scream 'not a local'? Decent hospitals within a 30 minute drive?

Yea, nothing like having land you can't drive to when it hits the fan, enjoy on weekends, weekday hunting trips, put a 10 car garage on for a future business, etc. How's the economy in those parts of Wyoming or Kentucky? Need to work in NJ/NY area to pay bills.

Must BBQ season

4 to 5k is what I meant....100 acres $400,000

@302W...Me and a close friend are looking at a BUG out piece of property just outside Milford. They have decent lots along Rte 4 right near some serious state land. Prices are running about $4 to $5 per acre now of undeveloped land. Not looking to live there full time, but, it is close enough to NJ if you can tele-commute if things go south real fast.

Not sure how many of you dreamers have actually spent time in your fantasy lands outside of the tristate area? I've worked, been stationed or have visited many of the locations that have been mentioned. Those that think Alaska is a paradise, well I lived there for 2 years and that pendulum swing of paradise and hell go hand and hand. Want to go down south, you will always be a damn Yankee as soon as your back is turned. NH or West Virgina are about the best on the east coast. If you don't have to work and are wealthy you can do whatever you want. But many people that left here and moved to North Carolina, Colorado, Arizona, Georgia are finding out that with less people, there are less jobs available. And if you ain't a local, the odds are against you. Face it, the liberal NY/NJ'ers have already tainted most of the East Coast. The liberals from Kali have infected Oregon and Washington and are moving into Idaho. Wyoming might be the best...again, if you got lots of coin you have more options. The grass is always greener. If you leave, take a liberal or two with you......please.

Just waiting for the crowd to come around and complain that the LEO should have tasered him or used non-lethal methods to stop a zombie. As mentioned before, good samaritans that intervene get punished. Imagine what that women that had hear face ripped off, fingers eaten and ear torn off by that monkey must've look like.

I want to stay put. I like having the beach 90 minutes away, PA/NY dense wooded areas 60 minutes away, NYC 35 miles away, decent skiing 90 minutes north, back packing, etc. I want all the a-holes to move to another state.

Anyone else coming?

Usually for me it is about 5 to 10 working days. This go around took forever...3 weeks. FWIW - None of my references have ever recieved a questionaire about me. Usually I list my neighbor who is a LEO in town and another LEO in a neighboring town. This go around I listed 2 'regular' folks and they didn't get any affadavids to sign about me.

Because we have adding to this topic with more knowledge about metals them me I have a question(s). Will heating the barrel beyond 1k degrees change any of the physical / meturallical (spelling?) properties of the barrel? How about discoloration from a limited distance from where the heat is being applied? I'm thinking pinned and tack weld is the way to go the more I read this.

I have to agree that having a 14.5" threaded barrel and having other AR parts on hand, no matter how pure your intentions, could be twisted into some BS case costing you thousands in legal fees for never actually committing a crime. I have lots of AR parts, a drill press and other dangerous tools, and because of this, I always have the proper muzzle device already attached when it arrives at my place of residence. Plus, places like Del-ton do a nice job of hiding the pin job and will essentially put on whatever NJ compliant device you want on it. Or a company like EGW in PA is a good company to work with.

I KNOW that, but since when does business common sense ever make an impact on a liberal politician?

You guys are all wrong with this. He will make out better financially from this. He will file inflated insurance claims and will actually be ahead of the game and will come to the decision that crime helps the economy.

Anyone else going?

Country music is like_______, it is fine if you do it behind closed doors, but don't expect me to endorse it. I will acknowledge that a lot of the music is pro-USA, even if 90% of the new artists are in it because of the growing popularity and easy money. My frigging sister in law is now 'country' and even spent big money to go to the CMA awards. Yea, driving a Lexus, living in Rockland County in your million dollar home, and roughing it means doing your own nails, is now cosidered country. I will confess, I laughed my a** off at that Lambert song about Gun Powder and Lead. I'd like to blast a few protein rounds into her.

Bloody Basin Road....says it all!

Good write up.

That is why you build a basement under your hunting cabin. Once the contractor leaves, you seal up the basement entrance and utilize a secret door. A basement for whatever reason won't raise an eyebrow. As soon as you call it a safe room, bunker, etc. people will talk. Like labeling something 'Secret'. Every passing eye will look at the document. Stamp it 'Unclassified' and no one pays attention. The entire instant community bugs me.

johnp - we had the same observations and thoughts on the program that was aired. Spend a little more upfront and do it right without the need to have an interior designer and Italian marble in the hallways.

I should have been more clear. I am not asking about SHTF prep. Trust me, I am very well versed and quite prepared for a variety of likely scenerios. FWIW, I consulted corporations on Crisis Management / Business Continuity Planning. I am asking about the merits of these 'pre-fab' communities specifically for times of crisis. Doesn't matter if it is pandemic, civil unrest, nuclear winter, Minueto Reunion tour...whatever. While I see the merits of pooling resources for a specific 'bug out shelter', I tend to be a pessimist when it comes to other humans. Good neighbors are great. Squirrely co-inhabitants are not. Shelter 'partners' with loose lips can undermine everything. When a minority share holder shows up with 6 extra guests, then what. Holding a paper agreement means nothing and going all attorney on them is meaningless. These doomsday condos just seem like there is way to many negatives for someone wanting to put the time and sweat equity into surviving a situation. Me, building a nice garage I can pull a good sized Winnebago is one heck of a starter place. Add a septic, some solar panels, propane storage and have access to clean water and you have a nice head start. Two or there RV shelters for each family might be a better plan then going all silo and terra.