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Freehold does, I just bought ammo from them few days ago I should have waited.

There were numerous times he almost died I have alot of respect for the guy, he was basically demonstrating what people should know to survive. He put himself through alot, if after the cameras stopped rolling he went to a hotel thats ok. He still drank piss, ate bugs and climbed mountain sides with nothing but his hands more bad a** then most people here I am sure.

Update time. So last Wednesday I got to go to the range with my brother to first test out the taurus raging judge I just got, but also test out what I refer as the "phase two" armor. The results were both good and bad, my testing distance was about 15 feet which is where most testing is done for armor. I went over board and decided to test the most powerful round first which I shouldn't I should have worked up to it. I shot it with the .454 casull 260 gr. about 1900fps and it went clean through which I had a feeling it might, if it stopped it R&D would be done since I would have a winner right there.That wasnt the case, so I said to myself well how weak is this really, so I went ahead and grabbed the .45 long colt. The .45 long colt was 5 gr. lighter coming in at 255gr. and it comes in just under 1000 fps, keep in mind the test section is already compromised partially because the materials cracked to "try" to absorb the pressures of the .454. So I shoot the test area at the 15 foot mark, the round bounces off denting the outer layer and partially bowing the piece but bounced completely off.This was complete stupidity on my part not even thinking of it potentially bouncing off, it could have easily with that level of force bounced and really hurt and or killed me or my brother. I have the footage of the test I haven't even had time to look at yet but will review it and see about posting it. The .45lc round is considered on same if not more powerful then the .44 magnum so that's where the test I considered went good, it confirmed an NIJ rating for me. I already have phase three materials on order and should have a mock up of that in week or so hopefully, depending on free time. Phase three goes back to basics but combines bits and pieces from all tests, but this should get me where I need to be on the project. My focus market has changed a bit however I think I will be backing away from military aspect and aiming toward preppers and those that want to be ready for when SHTF. I will still market to military and try to help as much as I can in that field but it wont be my only focus,the prepper market is ever growing and I want to give people like this the highest level of protection for them and their families as cheaply as possible and give them something that doesn't deteriorate and will be ready whether they need it day one or 10 years down the road. Thanks for reading guys, I appreciate the support and when I have more to update ill make a post.

Aslong as whatever you leave on the floor is brass and you are only putting lead and copper in their back stop you will be fine.

Yeah I have not seen anyone make claims against BA without giving their personal experience, my experiences have been hit and miss with them between use of range and buying guns. I agree though if someone was just saying "oh BA is a horrible place from what others tell me" or something along those lines without a personal experience or proof they shouldn't be posting. As far as sig's are concerned, I have the p229EE its a great gun and built like a tank, I found when I was going around to buy it, there are so many variants. With all the different models you can get a basic 226 or 229 new in the 700ish range or you can hit close to 1k depending on the features. An elite variant will run 100-200 dollars more and your just getting elite written on the slide and a beaver tail, the SRT and enhanced grips are definitely good features worth getting. If you can find a 226 or 229 used with the enhanced grips and the SRT that would be your best case scenario with their current pricing. If your gonna go new use the price request feature on this site first, I usually got my best deals that way.

Being that it is privately owned I can understand for the number of rules in place, however that said just hearing some of the rules from you guys I would not want to be apart of that range. I have to agree with ray on this one, I don't see why you guys pay to be at this place, and some are even justifying what this place does to you. As for the question from OP yes guns safe, and thanks for showing me the chamber flag since I never saw one in use till this day.

I thought his comment was funny

I used them when I first bought my .22 conversion for my sig and didnt have any issues with them, as odd as it might sound though they dont seem put together aswell as say the federal's .22's. The projectiles could be wiggled out and such but like I said never had any issues with firing them.

Actually if he would have left the mail he might have been ok just maybe got him for the property damage.

Heat signature has to be pretty big with all the leds, very cool though.

You can buy a new gun for the cost of that practice slide, I believe in dry firing and getting your muscle memory in place and technique figured out. Someone saying they don't want to do it because they don't want to get complacent or have the mindset of whenever trigger is pulled expect a bullet to come out is no good. There is a difference between respect for a firearm and fear,if you follow gun safety properly all the time you will never have a issue. Air soft guns with blow back are great for practice and get you a little closer to the real thing without putting wear on your real gun and of course its safer.

I think what old school was saying, you know something is bad for you and you have an idea how it occurs so why not take steps to lessen your damage. I used to take the mind set of oh well if it kills me, it kills me or whatever happens, happens, after my dad got cancer and how it not only effected him but changed the lives of my whole family and relatives I would never put myself in a continuous situation where I increase my risks and its something I have control over. Its almost selfish to put yourself in that type of danger and not consider if you were to get sick the effect on loved ones. No one is saying live in a bubble but in this case there are simple easy things to do to drastically decrease your exposure, so why not take those steps. I wear nitrile gloves and a face shield when I reload the shield is mainly for potential primer pops, and I try to do most if not all my shooting out doors now.

I would hope they would atleast post it on forum if thats the case.

It is not a law to have a FPID to look at a gun, it may be a stores policy but the few stores I have done business with have never asked to see a FPID first to look. I dont see the harm in letting someone look at a gun at the counter regardless of their ID/permits,when they will rent out a gun and give you bullets with just a drivers license.

When I joined some people showed up at a little before 730 and they let them in. We basically had two classes the on time people and the late people.

I did that to my sig for fun, turned out I could shoot same 2-3 inch groups at 25 yards

I have my baby eagle II in .45 and its very well built and is all steel so it can definitely take punishment, also not expensive around 500-550 I bought it for around 565 including tax and nics, but I got it right after it was relaunched.

Mondays and fridays usually not many people because there is nothing scheduled, fridays there are some mainly because I think guys take off from work to go shooting before the weekend.Although its never really crowded when I have been there,I was there last Wednesday and there were two people, one guy was on high powered another was next to me on multipurpose. Each range type we will call it has about 25 shooting positions if I remember correctly and pistol has alot more. Usually people move around as well so it doesn't get crowded all the times I have gone during week. Weekends are a whole different story since so much is always going on certain ranges are closed for certain events and shooters have to shuffle around to accommodate it.

My dad had same issue when he joined, he just wrote down his number on the form at the meeting and they were fine with it, a copy of the renewal print out is good to have aswell.

I would say, maybe do commercial aluminum studs, quite a bit more security for not much increase in price.

I bought a .22 conversion used for my sig and had a bunch of FTF's and after I oiled it up it worked like a champ and it was with crappy remington .22's so it was probably just dirty or needed some oil. SS staff is hit or miss on customer service sometimes, there are a few good guys there usually the ones that work the night shifts. One guy I have always had good experience with is Matt, he is always first to approach and ask if you need help and is honest and wont bs you like salesmen from other stores I have dealt with.

I think the bore sight was hit by the bullet so fast it wedged it apart basically sealing up the barrel.

What other thread are you referring to? I havent been on much to keep up with all the threads going on lol I can sort of reveal what I used because my design has changed and will yield better results I feel. The material was a special type of porcelain, as crazy as it sounds with how brittle it is, its ability to stop energy by dissipation it is huge, all of those little pieces although broken up they were forced to absorb more energy because they had no where to go. My second version will still be based on the theory of the first armor however the materials will also eat the material as it moves through the armor. I have thought about that quite a bit and sometimes wonder if I am working backwards since it seems liquid armors are the future. However I have only seen them able to bond it to kevlar to make it stronger. With the thickening fluid bonded to the kevlar 4 sheets will do the same stopping power of 14 sheets. I just try to focus on doing whatever I have to, to make something that works, does its job well and will be cheap enough so there is no excuse to not let people be protected. Dragon skin is a prime example,dragon skin because of the materials used and limited production of those materials came close to 7k per soldier and that price tag was evidently higher then the value of a soldiers life in governments eyes. They botched the tests to give the public a reason to right off the amazing armor, its sad but thats the truth although it will never be admitted. I really just want to change that I dont even really care about making money.

yeah but how could he know where to shoot, and if she felt it was on purpose I dont see why she would take a semi protective stance on it all.

Alright boys and girls its been a few months... *cough cough 6 months * since an update but I got back the first "run" we will call it and I have taken it apart found the boolits and surveyed the damage. Worked better then anticipated and surprisingly the .357 only went through the first level. There was one stray shot that hit out of the target zone and was a area I considered not protected and managed to still catch the bullet. The biggest downside to this whole test piece is weight and thickness, it was close to 6 lbs and was half the size of a standard plate, this design in full size would be almost 12 lbs I want to be under 10. The thickness was close to 2 inches which is unacceptable even in military use in my eyes, I want a plate thickness of no more then 1 inch. Being it was over engineered and the additional sections were not even damaged leaves room to make this design smaller and lighter. However I had come up with a different concept shortly after this one was tested, the new design fits my criteria and being cheaper to produce I think being better overall. I did not want to completely build the second "run" until I got back the first one for confirmation of concept. I now have that confirmed and will be working and finishing the second design this week. Here are the photo's of the taking apart process. This is the front you can see about 8 hole on the right side in about a 3 inch group. This is the back I cut open the back a little to remove the shattered parts,the damage was minimal penetration and was stopped by the second layer. Here is the second layer it was cracked but no penetration this layer is hybrid it has pieces that flex and pieces that crack giving it an ability to "catch". This is the final section I put Kevlar as a fail safe in case bullets penetrated through the other layers, the kevlar has a composite backing to control potential trauma to persons body if something was to reach it. Kevlar is extremely hard to stitch and costs a alot of money for the proper machine to do it so I went with tape to hold the fabric together. All the bullets I was able to retrieve from the right section, I will make a new update when second plate is complete I am toying with a variation of the second design after seeing this so I dont know if I want to stick to the schedule or take a chance on the thought. Thanks for reading.