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The only thing these people know about guns is that they don't like any of them and want to outlaw them all.

automatic bayonet? does that mean it's a switch blade?

A few of the more important things to keep in mind. As stated earlier the first hurdle is town zoning must approve your use for your retail location (or spend a lot of money in court). You will need to have an actual business in operation - file all necessary paperwork with the IRS and NJ Div. of Taxation. If you live in the same building you will need a separate entrance for you customers to enter directly into the sales area. You will be inspected and audited regularly by the NJSP & ATF. You will need a security system and other security measures that are approved by the NJSP.

I like the referece to how the Finns "stole" there Mosins. He forgot to mention that they rebarreled them and made them some of the most accurate military infantry rifles ever - much better than the original Russian Mosins. Where is this guy emailing from the Tula factory itself?

I heard a story about a former Director of the Treasury (don't remember his name) under the first President Bush who I beleive lived in the Harding area and was denied a Machinegun license dispite the fact that he once oversaw the ATF among other agencies under the Treasury umbrella. If he can't get a MG license, no one can.

In NJ they gang members would be disadvantaged youth (even if they are 25 years old) who only stole beer because society has not helped them sufficently prepare for life's challenges. The victim would be a reckless gun toting child murderer and menace to society that should be locked up for 40 years for not giving up his property to these kids who meant no real harm.

It's a matter of time .... a long time. Remember Heller II is in appeals right now because the Clinton appointed first judge ruled that a ban on semiauto handguns was "reasonable gun contol" allowed under Heller I. There's no doubt that NJ will follow Chicago and DC's lead in doing everything they can to do end runs around these rulings when the lose, further delaying the process. Better hope nothing changes on SCOTUS before they can get this laid out.

FYI it's probably Danish

I understand you were told differently than me. The explanation that I got was that an exempt transaction/purchase is as though it never occurred as it pertains to non exempt transactions. I copied the law below, but it is less than clear on whether non exempt sales can occur within 30 days of an exempt sale. i.Restriction on number of firearms person may purchase. Only one handgun shall be purchased or delivered on each permit and no more than one handgun shall be purchased within any 30-day period, but this limitation shall not apply to: (1)a federal, State or local law enforcement officer or agency purchasing handguns for use by officers in the actual performance of their law enforcement duties; (2)a collector of handguns as curios or relics as defined in Title 18, United States Code, section 921 (a) (13) who has in his possession a valid Collector of Curios and Relics License issued by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; (3)transfers of handguns among licensed retail dealers, registered wholesale dealers and registered manufacturers (4)transfers of handguns from any person to a licensed retail dealer or a registered wholesale dealer or registered manufacturer. (5)any transaction where the person has purchased a handgun from a licensed retail dealer and has returned that handgun to the dealer in exchange for another handgun within 30 days of the original transaction, provided the retail dealer reports the exchange transaction to the superintendent; or 8-3.4).[/b](6)any transaction where the superintendent issues an exemption from the prohibition in this subsection pursuant to the provisions of section 4 of P.L.2009, c.186 (C.2C:5 The provisions of this subsection shall not be construed to afford or authorize any other exemption from the regulatory provisions governing firearms set forth in chapter 39 and chapter 58 of Title 2C of the New Jersey Statutes; A person shall not be restricted as to the number of rifles or shotguns he may purchase, provided he possesses a valid firearms purchaser identification card and provided further that he signs the certification required in subsection b. of this section for each transaction.

If you are wondering how we got to this point in this state, the anti gun legislators actually documented their arrogance in the criminal code. I think the first finding of the legislature should read "New Jersey's commitment to violating your constitutional rights is unrivaled anywhere in the nation" 2C:58-2.2 Findings, declarations relative to sale of handguns. 1. a. The Legislature finds: New Jersey's commitment to firearms safety is unrivaled anywhere in the nation; New Jersey was the first state to require retail dealers to include, as part of every handgun sale, either a State Police approved trigger lock or a locked case, gun box, container or other secure facility; To encourage all firearms owners to practice safe storage, the State has waived all sales taxes on trigger locks, firearms lock-boxes and vaults and, under the "KeepSafe" program, offers an instant $5 rebate to all retail firearms purchasers who buy a compatible trigger locking device along with their firearm; New Jersey was the first state to require all firearms dealers to prominently display State-provided firearms information and safety warnings; New Jersey was one of the first states to make parents and guardians statutorily responsible for unwittingly or carelessly permitting minors under their control to gain access to loaded firearms; New Jersey statutorily prohibits anyone under the age of 18 years from purchasing or otherwise acquiring a firearm and permits such minors to possess or carry a firearm only in a very limited number of strictly defined situations and under the direct supervision of a qualified parent, guardian or instructor; To enforce this strict regulatory scheme, New Jersey imposes harsh penalties, including a mandatory minimum prison term of three years, on anyone who knowingly sells, transfers or gives a firearm to a person under the age of 18 years; and New Jersey was the first state to allocate, as part of its annual Appropriations Act, moneys dedicated exclusively for the development of personal handgun technology, and the amount so allocated, $1,000,000, was one-fifth the total amount the federal government allocated toward the development of this important firearms safety technology in the same fiscal year.

I know the courts in this state is as biased to left as they come. But the federal courts also have done nothing. I think we need to remind Christie he will have major political problems in the future if he pisses off gun owners (especially nationally).

Yes, but you would think that if Christie was going to help us he would tell her to not defend or not aggressively defend OGAM. If this AK thing is true I will lose all hope of seeing any reprieve from this Gov. I think we need to remind him he will need us win another Republican primary.

I've done the exemption 3 times already and have also talked directly with Lt. Schleuter. I was told by him that any purchases (purchases meaning you are bring them home that day) made with an approved sealed exemption is completely exempt from all 30 day requirements. That said, if you buy 3 guns on an exemption on Jan. 1, you can buy another gun on a regular permit(non exempt purchase) on Jan. 2, if you have another 5 guns on a different exemption you could buy them on Jan. 3 (or Jan. 1, or Jan. 2), You will however need to wait 31 days from from Jan. 2 to buy another non exempt gun.

Don't forget Dow's vigorous defense of the one gun a month!

How many times are these Attorney Generals going to reinterpret the same law? They keep changing what's considered legal and instantly turning law abiding people into criminals. How has this gone on for almost twenty years without a court declaring this law unreasonably vague?

Well, I plow snow! Snow = $ = more guns Besides you can't do much snowmobiling in North Carolina

I ordered mine though SOG and had it sent to my FFL, although they very recently changed their website so that only FFL's can look at firearms. You will need an FFL to authorize you to order from them and they will send it there. I also have a CZ83, Bulgarian Makarov, and Yugo Tokarev. They are all well made, accurate, collectible guns that are cheap right now. They all will have a quirk or two unique to each gun so don't expect a Sig or HK but for the money you can't go wrong.

Are you going to do this again? Preferably farther north, I wanted to come but it's to far (two hour drive) for me to deal with rush hour traffic on the GSP to get there on time after I get done with work.

Sunset? The law will have to be repealed or overturned in court.

Buy it. I have one and they are excellent for the money. I would take you up on your offer but this is a bad time of year for me time wise.

Regarding straw purchases, when I was waiting for a NICS check the other day I was looking at the counter mat the ATF gives the FFL's (Don't lie for the other guy) and I thought it said a straw purchase was if you purchase a firearm for a person who is INELIGIBLE to buy one on there own (as opposed to buying one and transferring it to someone who could buy it on there own). Does anyone know if this correct?

I haven't seen that one, but it wouldn't surprise me. After all Paula Dow?

What do you expect? The morons who wrote these laws knew nothing about firearms. That's how we got the hollow point ammo law.

I was told by dealers in PA it can be sold that way, but I'm not surprised to here conflicting info on this issue.

Yea, what BS that is, like it takes very long to check if you committed a crime in the last day, week , month since you last got permits.