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I've made a lot of purchases in NJ and PA since the NICS went into effect in the mid 90's. Only had one check that didn't go through right away, the system went down, had to back the next day to pick up my purchases. In NJ I've been charged anywhere from $15 to $20 (thank you Christie Whitman) with and without sales tax (I still don't understand how the state can rationalize sales tax on a NICS fee, after all this is already a tax since you are paying this "fee" to the government, even if it is indirectly). PA dealers usually charge $5 for NICS (their cost), some don't charge for it, others have charged $10-$20 - often it can be negotiated. I was in Kentucky 2 weeks ago, stopped in a gun shop near my hotel, they told me there is no NICS fee there.

Heard about it from junkmanted and usnmars. Good to see a NJ based forum - realize your not the only gun geek in the area

I would agree that the NRA should do a lot more for us here in NJ, but keep in mind that they just laid the foundation for the repeal/overturning of the draconian laws we have here in NJ. This is only likely to happen in federal court and will take many years, but at least now there are rulings to base lawsuits on.

True, and that will take another ten years Better hope nothing happens to the five common sense justices.

Didn't waste any - went for and received two exemptions with these permits.

Diddo, I've done exemptions three times already.

Easy now, if the rest of NJ was more like Ringwood we probably wouldn't have all these BS gun laws.

Visiting a psychiatrist voluntarily could be construed as consultation rather than treatment. Just because you visit a lawyer doesn't mean you committed a crime.

People stop fighting back because they run out of money. I agree everyone should vigorously defend them self when falsely charged, but the prosecutors will run you, an "evil gun owner", out of money and they know it. If your choice is take a plea or sell your house and be right (maybe) most people cave in. We need more financial support from the NRA and other groups for people who get unjustly snagged in the NJ wheels (meat grinder) of justice.

I can't say with absolute certainty, but I believe federal law does not allow transfers among private parties who reside in two different states. The rifle would need to be sent to an FFL in NJ and the transfer done there - with NICS & a CE (FID needed there)

Last time I applied for 10 permits, they were a little shocked and then asked if I was going to use all of them. I responed that I already had 7 pistols waiting at the FFL. I have noticed that what was 4 weeks has turned into 5-6 weeks - budget cuts = staff cuts.

I have one in .40 and right out of the box the mag kept popping out when firing it. Called Taurus and was sent a new mag catch 3 months later. Installed it, put a mag in and it wouldn't come out. Had to send it back, came back two weeks later fixed and has been fine since.

How do you find the sold prices on GB?

I believe you can get a unique ID number from the ATF to separate you from all the John Smiths in the country who may have committed crimes. If so, I would think that would eliminate the confusion when doing NICS.

I guess all the bad states have their own creative way of discouraging gun sales. I know the Gov. in Mass. was trying to push through one handgun a month after seeing how wonderfully successful it was at reducing straw purchases in NJ - not sure if it passed. I wonder if you can claim that doctors visit on your medical insurance - no wonder heath care is so expensive.

Yes, they all suck but at least Mass. allows class 3 and gun shows.

The problem with CA is the ridiculous rules on what guns can be owned. A lot of handguns are not legal in CA since they have to pass a useless melting test (or something to that effect) to weed out "unsafe" guns. The DOJ in CA keeps a list of approved firearms if a gun is not on that list it cannot be sold. I don't think the list is very extensive and many mil surp handguns cannot be purchased if they have mags over 10 rounds. All .50 cal BMG's and pistol grips on semi autos are a no go, and a grenade launcher (like the ones on some yugo SKS) are considered destructive devices. Mass. has similar handgun rules to CA, and like NJ classifies muzzleloaders and air guns as firearms. I think they also have some kind of FID card as well. Oddly, they do allow class 3.

Rock Island Good, cheap and made on original US GI tooling. Sarco has good pricing on them and they're always in stock.

That's the problem it's all open to interpretation

Went to the CMP store on Sat. Words cannot explain the joy experienced when you're standing around so many Garands - and they are all for sale. Picked up a WRA service grade and a HRA service grade. Will probably go back next year when they are supposed to get 1903's

I have an MSAR It's one of my favorite guns I had always wanted an AUG but couldn't get one because of them being a heinous crime against the people of NJ. Couldn't resist when the opportunity for the MSAR came up.

Very true! But usually some of the better deals get bought up on Sat. You never know

I was at the CMP store this morning (and after the 7 hour ride I'm now home) and was looking at the snipers there. Was very tempted to buy one but $1500. wasn't in the budget right now. Ended up getting a service grade WRA and a service grade HRA - both in better shape than I would have expected. Maybe next time I'll have more cash for a sniper. Thought I died and went to heaven when I was in that store.

So, with regards to AW, in the end what does that mean? I can think of several firearms that meet the AG's standard but are clearly not "substantially identical" to anything on Florio's list. I can assume you would be arrested by the police for possession of an AW but the prosecutor would still have to prove in court that it is "substantially identical" to a listed firearm not using the AG's criteria. Understand, I am under no illusions that NJ judges are likely to look at this objectively. Besides, who would want $20k - $100k proving your right even if by some chance you did win.

I find what you are saying here interesting since unless I missed it under 2C I believe most of the criteria used to define an "assault weapon" is listed in title 13 2C describes "assault weapons" as any firearm listed by name on the original Florio ban or a "substantially identical" firearm or a semiauto shotgun that holds more than 6 rounds, has a pistol grip or a folding stock and rifles with a fixed mag. capacity of more that 15 rounds. Title 13 is where you find the language that says an "assault weapon" is defined as: A semiauto rifle with a detach mag and two or more of the following: folding/tel stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, threaded barrel/flash sup, or grenade launcher A semiauto pistol with a detach mag and two or more of the following: mag that attaches outside the pistol grip, threaded barrel, shroud, weight in excess of 50oz, or semiauto version of a fullauto A semiauto shotgun with two or more of the following: a folding/tel stock, pistol grip, fixed mag cap over six rounds or a detach mag