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I've seen videos that would show otherwise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoCRt3putLM&list=UUPI7sv8xxXT6pYFR6S2gM6w&index=2&feature=plcp Oh yeah, and then there is the ruling from a federal judge that would agree... What about the 'whistleblowers' who are/were actual members of the NYPD? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au922-6nNYU

If they are yelling "Get your yellow tops", then you are probably right. What does a drug peddling gangster look like btw?

I agree. It really drives me crazy. But it happens, and will continue to happen, as long as people remain ignorant and the media continues to criminalize gun owners.

For those with comcast, it is (or was), in the On Demand, along with the womens 10m air pistol. To be honest though, I can see why it wasn't covered that much. Due to the way the event was ran, it really didn't make for great TV. In order for it to have really been entertaining, it wouldn't make the event fair to all the competitors. I do wish they would have at least given more coverage to the fact that the shooting sports even exist, show the winners, and maybe a couple of clips of it. I'm sure they have done some, but not that I have seen.

Agreed. One of the biggest problems is by criminalizing things like drug possession, or not just criminalizing it, but making it a focus, as it means police have to spend time dealing with it, and other non-violent crimes, and are prevented the opportunity to focus on stuff that really matters. But of course when political agendas are forced onto people what would you expect? I can just picture a cop investigating a rape or robbery or something, and being told to not bother because they need someone to deal with some minor drug possession offenses or something. I don't mean this literally, but I rather how I see the political aspect messing with things. What type of profiling? I am completely AGAINST profiling that strips innocent people of basic civil rights for the sake of maybe catching a criminal, like the NYPD's stop and frisk BS. I am against the BS profiling that is Janet Napolitano's "see something say something" propaganda that does little more then get innocent people hassled, and legitimate concerns get ignored. Profiling based off little more than race or location without any actual prior investigation, observation, or studies is complete crap.

That isn't a parenting fail. It is a parenting win. It is clear she likes Ashley and wants a grandchild!

He was arrested on a city ordinance weapons violation, not on trespassing.

"Improvise weapons", because we have disarmed you, the shooter is the only person with real ones. Just finishing his quote.

Ahh, an equally as awful idea. In fact, I'd say that is SIGNIFICANTLY worse! Now kids will think they can get away with even more! Because we know they never tried to get away with things before. It isn't like blacks were being suspended at a disproportionately high rate to begin with...oh wait.

Because people still use race and sex as both excuses for behavior and as a means to benefit themselves if they can. And people are still ignorant enough to buy into it, as opposed to taking personal responsibility. It is easier that way.

And even that is all ignoring that the only reason is he is still even allowed to be in office is because he essentially overturned the law while he was in office for his benefit. Go figure. I figure toward the end of this year you will see him try and change it again to allow for a 4th term...

Love it. Once again, as keeps being proven over and over, instead of looking at the reasons why " students of color... are disproportionately likely to be suspended or expelled", and trying to find a solution for that, the problem MUST be that others aren't getting suspended enough. So if every race, ethnicity, social class, etc, ALL get suspended at equal rates, the problem is solved! Right? Oh......hmm. Since the Olympics are going on, might as well share something that I think has applicability here. I was watching table tennis (the best Olympic sport, seriously!), and a young 16 year old American of Asian descent (Chinese/Taiwanese) was playing and doing quite well against the world' #2 player. It was mentioned that her parents only allowed her to pursue the sport as long as she got straight A's, and if she got anything less would not be allowed to play/train until it was brought up to an A. Well needless to say, apparently she has never gotten anything but an A in school. How is this relevant? It shows a stark cultural difference in upbringing and parenting. This story is not unique, as it is much more common for those of Asian descent to be much more strict in a parenting style, and in general, Asian-Americans tend to be more successful then other ethnicities, and tend to work harder to achieve their success. Of course this doesn't mean other ethnicities aren't successful, or hard working. It doesn't matter where you come from, what race you are, if you work harder then anyone else, you won't be limited on potential. What I find funny is they did note some of the reasons for the disparity. But then they say this. “Disparities would have to be reduced within a year and eliminated within three years,” So in essence, it doesn't matter the reason, the disparity of more blacks being suspended is the issue. Despite the fact that blacks have a 43% higher chance of not having their parents being together, despite the fact that they are more likely to have "not just dysfunctional homes, but homes that are not supportive of their children", leading to them being suspended more, that is not the issue. Others aren't suspended enough. Sad.

Hypocrite? No.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6-ieewStYY

There is plenty of things that contradict or conflict with 9/11 commission, which is the governments official story. It is easy to say there isn't however, if you just ignore it. It is easy to dismiss something as a crazy theory if you chose to not even bother doing any research about it yourself. How many buildings collapsed in NYC on 9/11 btw? How many planes hit buildings in NYC on 9/11?

It's nice an all. A solid performance for sure, but I think some of his other performances are much better actually.

Indeed. My point is, you shouldn't just believe something because someone tells you. This holds true for all sides. I'm not going to simply believe them because they said that is what happened, just like I am not going to just believe the '9/11 commission' because they said something else happened. But when people like BLF do nothing but use a circular reasoning, no true Scotsman fallacy, it is easy to ONLY discount evidence that is contrary to his/their belief.

Yep, nothing to add, so just say that nobody cares and move on. Those are winning tactics right there. Do you ever use anything besides ad hominem's, red herrings, appeal to authority, straw man's, and all the other logical fallacies you use? I think you have pretty much used them all.

I cannot support mandatory sentences. Unfortunately sometimes it would be beneficial to have them, as noted in examples above, however the times it gets turned around and thrown at someone who doesn't warrant the sentence out weights the benefits, IMO. It is also unfortunate we are in a system that has huge flaws (clear douche bag criminals getting a plea deal to reduce a sentence where people who maybe made a mistake get the book thrown at them for something significantly less of a crime). It's a no win, and sometimes feels like a coin flip how sentencing works. A mandatory sentence eliminates any possibility of even that.

I think vlad's point is, that even if they are right (they aren't), banning any discussion of the topic is absurd and childish. It is actually almost like if this forum banned anyone from talking about carrying in NJ. What purpose would that serve other than to push an agenda that carrying must be bad, or in this case, traveling to PA must be illegal. I can't think of any. It is frustrating when said opinion is not substantiated in law. At all. In fact the law says otherwise, and there isn't even anything to contradict it (like a conviction or even arrest for doing so). If the moderators here said "using hollow points in NJ is illegal for home defense, the law is clear, there will be NO discussion of it ever again" how would people feel?

What is ironic is that he says the shots were possible, but he also says he believes he was being handled by someone, and that it is doubtful he was a lone gunman, in addition to numerous other things not adding up. If anything, he makes a pretty convincing case Kennedy's assassination was not the act of one psycho, and substantiating some so called 'conspiracy theorists' claims he didn't act alone. Good point. I hadn't seen that before. No idea if any of it is legitimate or not however.

And you notice whenever anybody posts anything the goes against their unconditional belief that it is ignored, and a serious of non-sequitur jokes follows? It is like Jesse Ventura said, "How dare you ask questions." There are some pretty good interviews of very experienced pilots, including test/eval pilots saying they are unsure if even they could have flown a 757 as claimed it was flown into the Pentagon, nevertheless someone who couldn't pass a checkride on a single engine plane. But as usual, that will be ignored as well, because the government said it happened. What about the interview of the police officers who both described where they saw a plane flying. Both gave the same describtion saying it flew around the same location. When they are told that the governments story has the plane coming from the opposite direction they are perplexed.

Not knowing the answer doesn't automatically make your conclusion true. I have no idea where Flight 77 went. I don't know what exactly happened to the pentagon. What I do know is something happened that we aren't being told. What that is though, is speculation. Much like your speculation that flight 77 hit it. Do you have any video that shows a 757 flying into it? You do not. Because all video evidence was confiscated and never realized...except for a few frames of a security camera with a low frame rate that doesn't show much of anything. Why? No idea. Why do you believe it was flight 77? Because that is what you were told. I was once told and told repeatedly about this omnipotent being that controls and created everything, called 'god'. Does that make god real? I have serious doubts. Doesn't make it not either, but again, that would be speculation. How much about flight 77 do you really know? Do you know where it took off from? Do you know anybody that was on it? Any of their family members at least? Do you know what it's intended arrival location was suppose to be? When it took off? The tail number? Gate it left from? Anybody that worked that gate? Any ATC controller that handled the flight? Do you have any personal knowledge of it? Or is all your knowledge from what you have been told, by people you don't know personally? I'd imagine if I had enough money and power I would be able to tell people things as absolute facts that they cannot substantiate, and get them to believe it, even if it wasn't close to being true. In fact I have been able to convince people that something did/didn't happen that they were actually present for, simply by a lie being repeated. You can chose to believe the governments version of what happened all you want. But if you believe it only because that is what you hear, or absent other information or knowledge confirming it, it is no less speculative then anything else. I'll chose to question things until proven. If it can't be proven, then I guess I will continue to not know what happened.

Only one of those photos shows anything relating to an aircraft. And the one that does, has the wreckage oddly well in front of the Pentagon. The rest show nothing of the sort. There are more photos of the damage prior to the further collapse of parts of the building of a hole much smaller then a 757. Link or name of show? I have seen a number of shows that tried to duplicate it. They were either not able to duplicate multiple shots with the same type of rifle with both speed and accuracy, unable to duplicate the 'magic bullet', or unable to get shots on target from the depository even when shooting from a stand outside the depository window (the actual location is off limits as it is 'preserved').

If anything, this has more relevance. http://news.yahoo.co...-084732106.html The article is about NYPD operating in NJ and being discovered by who I assume to be the landlord or other building manager who was reporting suspicious activity. It is kind of funny really. The NYPD gets busted because someone listened to that clown Janet Napolitano 'see something say something' BS. Of course the NYPD says they weren't operating as police....no kidding.

I thought I posted the video of Rumsfeld saying it was shot down, but maybe I didn't...