Dan

Exactly, its just a recommendation. In a state where everything is restricted unless specifically allowed via exemption, and we own guns "at our own peril" when it comes to legality... I think its a good recommendation. A decision each person has to make in terms of their comfort level.

i'm in for : qty 4 - 15/20 5.56 Black

I just ordered a Wilderness single point sling along with the optional HK hook to use with the ASAP. http://www.thewilderness.com/storepinnacle/index.php?p=catalog&parent=151&pg=1 Cheap enough, and you can get a rail adapter later on if you want to make it a 2 point sling from my understanding. I'll write what I think about it here once I get it from the bringer of toys (aka UPS).

Found this at http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/newjersey.pdf

The only reference that specifically stipulates how ammunition is to be transported only refers to armor piercing ammo carried by authorized persons:

I'll rephrase this... 15 rnd Pmags I just bought from MidwestPX a week ago are dropping free of spike's lower that I just picked up from aim 3 days ago as of 3/1/2011.

I received my Spike's lowers from AIM. Great quality so far, very happy. As another poster I believe said, C-products mags do not drop free. Pmags do.

"Gun Regulation" is going to be the new anti-gun buzzword. They will stop using "control" as it is more sinister when referring to what has finally been granted an individual right. IMO this is our number #1 landmine post Heller and McDonald. Since the anti-gun rights activists can't take away arms completely, they will fight to regulate them into oblivion. They will spew forth "reasonable and common sense regulation" rhetoric, without any basis , with the goal of leaving us with single shot firearms. This year 10 round mag limits. A few more years maybe 5, then another couple of years semi-auto completely. You catch the drift... It is all about the regulation line drawn in the sand. Where it gets drawn is the next battle gun owners face. Little by little, inch by inch.

Great choice! I just put an ASAP on my new AR build. I'm using it with a pinned MOE stock to the length that I like. Both components work well together. Look into the MOE, its way less expensive and designed for a light carbine/middy, as opposed to a PRS which goes for the battlerifle/designated marksman role, IMO of course. Just be sure to have it shipped to someone who does not own an AR, and do the pinning process there before taking possession of it or home near your AR parts. So silly I know, but its the right way to do it...

+1 Bob The laws are written to be ambiguous for the state's own self-interests. When dealing with anything that raises a doubt in your mind, put yourself in a gun-hating DA's shoes and go at it from their perspective. Do you think they could convince a jury that a little buttplate moving 1" back and forth is defined as a "collapsible, folding,or telescoping stock"? As the gun-hating DA, wouldn't you feel kinda silly trying to pass that hogwash? If you still feel nervous, get a plain Jane fixed stock, period.

Great story.

As far as I know , this is an urban legend. You could get tagged with "possession of a weapon for unlawful purposes" if the state could prove you intended to use the hollow point against someone, or were involved in other crimes in which they could link you had the hollow points for "unlawful purposes". Traffic violations do not count here, as you not using your blinker has no bearing on using hollow points unlawfully. If you had a kilo of cocaine on you, with hollow points, they could argue you were using them unlawfully in terms of using them to protect your illegal drugs. That kind of stuff.

You are fine. 2C:39-6 (edit: specifically subsection f.) exemptions have "to and from" condition.

Congrats Vlad! Handle the wedding / reception / honeymoon right (as in her opinion carries 80% weight on everything ), and you will be able to purchase toys for many years to come without a quibble! B)

I'm all for the truth. I simply want to make sure that the thought process doesn't stop at "he broke xyz law, so he's discredited as an example for for pro-2A rights". Personally I only see the high cap mags an issue here, shame on him. Otherwise, ee was not allowed to use the moving exemption for possession of the handgun and hollow points. I know there are arguments around if he went directly to and from, etc etc but that is for a jury to decide, and they didn't even get a chance to. True that it seems the media's habit of sensationalizing things have massaged the picture a bit. As usual when it comes to the media, you take both side's exaggerated and polarized stories, weigh them in, then somewhere in the middle is the deeper truth and issues at hand.

It appears they focused on the possession of a handgun charge exclusively in the interview. Thats the whopper charge in the case. If the argument was that he was under the "while moving" exemption for the handguns, then the hollow points would be covered under the same exemptions (2C:39-6). The magazines would be the only thing left to deal with. This is a 4th degree crime with max sentence of 18 months. Still a felony, ranks in there with possession of marijuana, probably is usually probation/fine, etc. The deeper story here is where do you draw the line between regulations and 2A rights. For instance, a state could enact an any carry law without permits, but then proceed to make illegal all detachable magazines, and limit fixed capacity to 1 round. The state could argue they are not infringing on 2A rights by allowing non-prohibited persons from owning and carrying guns. To some degree this is how NJ has been slipping by all these years of 2A ambiguity in claiming they do not infringe on 2A, and that they do have a carry permit system. They are trying to use these same old tired arguments, and they will now loose after Heller and McDonald. We are not seeing civil disobedience taking place like the country experienced during the civil right's movement. Instead we are experiencing these cases unintentionally via snagging people with ridiculous gun regulations in states like NJ and NY. 2 recent examples are Aitken with his sentence being commuted by Christie, and Ryan in NY with the jury nullification declaring him innocent. These things don't just happen without good reasons. The reason being NJ and NY gun regulations need to be re-hashed with 2A rights in mind. Just like the laws were changed to adhere to civil rights in the past. People say "its the law,etc, and he is guilty". But does anyone really believe these guys are hardened criminals that made and active decision to cast to the wind NJ and NY laws? I highly doubt it. These guys have no prior records, no indications they were looking for trouble. I am very confident that a majority of folks in this forum at one time or another has broken a NJ gun law during their gun owning lifetime whether they know it or not. If you got prosecuted for handing your friend a gun in your own home to check out, had a hollow point bullet left in a bag in your car, was able to jam just one more round into a magazine that is supposed to be 15 rounds, stopped for lunch and picked up a friend on the way to the pistol range, ... would you like people on this forum screaming "you broke the law, go to jail".

The statue says "carried" , that implies a person carrying the firearm. Later on there is an "or" for automobiles, implying the gun is in the auto...

There are no exemptions under temporary transfer sections in the statutes permitting an owner to transfer his/her firearm to another person in your home. Since NJ is rule by exemption, anything without an exemption is technically illegal. This is the way I read it anyways. The other exemptions are for hunting , in which you need a permit to hunt with that particular type of firearm and be on suitable land, law enforcement, or instructors to trainees for training when taking a course. I still have not found a provision that allows a dealer to hand over a firearm to a prospective customer at their shop. They only refer to a "firing range operated by a licensed dealer".

There is no problem with walking on foot. Just make sure you are under the exemptions. And adhere to this rule:

Only option I could see is if you are on range property, and are doing a gun safety course while taking the photos. You know, how to properly hold the gun in safe direction... hold it there... gooooood. .... snap!

+1 to Vlad. This is a provision for extremely far out there situations if a cop goes nuts and starts going crazy violently harming people around him. The provision basically protects civilians that are defending their lives in a situation like this if it were to occur. Another situation if a cop goes nuts because he doesn't like you, arrests you for whatever reason he/she comes up with, then begins pummeling you to death for no reason at all. Without this SHTF clause, anyone defending themselves in these far out situations would legally be committing a felony.

Its pretty clear cut. There is no "knowingly" clause that I could find.... NYC Penal Code: I couldn't find a single exemption that would fit the case up to the details that we have, as in loaded handgun in the glovebox. If you care to look here's the link to the exemptions. We thought we had it bad in NJ! My link

Amazing how every brand of gas goes up to relatively the same price. There is no competition when it comes to big oil. They are all in it together with the same goal in mind... pull the covers over our eyes and fleece us till the cows come home. Its is basically a cartel. In a real market, you would see innovation and efficiency in refining and delivery by companies in order to offer gas at lower prices compared to their competition.

Wait, what happened here? A jury acquitted someone of charges that were blatantly in violation of the law. If the story is true, and he did have a gun in the glovebox, he is downright guilty of illegal possession in NYC. Oh how did this happen? Perhaps this is the concept of "jury nullification" at work? The jury issued "not guilty" when he was so clearly in violation of the letter of the law. Are the jurors wrong for so obviously and deliberately pushing aside the law, and letting this should-be-felon go free? Why is this guy so special that the jury decided to push logic aside (have gun without license, go to jail), and let him go? This is excellent news, and hopefully a lesson is to be learned by NYC and other anti gun rights lawmakers that even the general population is becoming fed up with ludicrous and harsh gun control laws.

I can see the Griz's logic here. We have persons, dealers, law enforcement , and clubs that can transfer in this paragraph. Legal owners and dealers have the "if" in "if the transfer is made upon a firing range operated by a licensed dealer" Military organizations and clubs have "and" in " and if the firearm is received, possessed, carried and use" This directly links them to further restrictions on transfers in the paragraph. Law enforcement is just out there, without an "if" or "and", its in the middle of the other two transferee types and their regulations. There is nothing immediately before or after explaining how and where. I don't think we can go and apply the "if" or "and" of legal owners, dealers, and military organizations to the "by a law enforcement agency" statement. This kinda brings up another point. What covers dealers from handing a gun over the counter for a potential customer to see in a gun shop? It reads like the shop has to have a shooting range.