Dan

Wildly open to interpretation like most of NJ's gun laws. Broad brush words like "reasonable" are ripe for abuse, and basically gives the state Carte Blanche to go after anyone they find in possession of a gun while traveling via public pathways. They can drag you to court on illegal possession charges, then argue in front of a jury as to why your course of travel was not "reasonable". After-all, who determines what is reasonable? The cop that stopped you? The supervisor? The local prosecutor? The AG? Its complete and utter nonsense, and is why the Anti crowd loves to use the word "reasonable" in all of their campaigns. It has no place in any laws, and ranks up there with "justified". In the end, every individual needs to make a determination as to what level they would like to interpret the exemptions, with all of their subjective and open to opinion rules and contradictions. Chances are if you err on the side of caution and adhere to the litteral wording, the state would be less apt to drag you through the justice system. If one were to stretch it, they may smell blood and try to go for a conviction if they feel they have a chance of convincing the jury you are some gun-nut bad guy looking to drive around with a HG abusing the laws.

I'm going to throw this out there.... If you belong to a shooting club that meets the requirements in the exemptions, you have more privileges regarding traveling with guns than someone who does not. Take a look below. If you are a member, then the exemption is for "going to or from" , if you are not, you have to rely on 2b "Directly to or from". There are big implications with the omission of the "directly" when it comes to the law. It would imply that section 1 infers "indirectly" as it is clear that when the statutes want to communicate "directly" they do so. This is just IMO. Take it for what it is, as most anything gun related in NJ, you would be guilty before being proven innocent, and may have to try to use this argument to convince a jury. Not a good situation. edit: Of course the "reasonably necessary" is still in play for a contradiction as others pointed out. Then again one could argue that on your way "to and from" the range, it was reasonably necessary for you to go to work to make a living.

Yup, that's what i said earlier, that the guy must have given consent one way or another for the search. I'm sure the cops made it sound like a friendly game of Hungry Hungry Hippo.. - Keep silent - Do not consent to anything - Call your lawyer

The Event is a great show, one of my favorites. Will probably get canceled too, rumors have been flying around as you pointed out. Then there is Fringe, looks like we're in for another season at least.

I don't buy that. There are no "brandishing laws" that I'm aware of in NJ. He was charged with aggravated assault, which implies he intended to cause harm to the other guy with a deadly weapon. Even so, aggravated assault outside the persons home on the lawn, down the street, in the next town, does not give the police PC needed to search the accused house. They would have to get a warrant as to why they have PC that there is some type of criminal activity in the home and what it is. The HG was not illegal, unless it came up stolen on a serial # search. So what PC does a cop have to either immediately do a legal warrant-less search (would have to see or hear directly the criminal activity in the home), or even to get a warrant from a judge?

Grats!

I agree, was a very slow build up... and they tried to appeal to a too broad of audience in the beginning; throwing in too much drama/mushy crap. They lost a ton of viewers in the first 6 mos. I almost stopped watching it. Then all of a sudden they got it back on track, SG1 style with excitement, adventure, and the right amount of drama. It was too late. This last season was excellent, and the final episode has leaves me craving more. Such potential, hopefully someone will pick up where it left off.

I'll be watching for sure. Hope it is good and sticks around. Just watched the last episode of SGU last week. Its a shame, sucked in the beginning, but got really good and then they shitzcanned it.

I say we here at NJGF should start designing this M-UGNJ rifle. Stands for Military - Unicorn Gun New Jersey. Being it will shoot energized plasma particle beams, we can even keep it NJ AWB compliant.

Made sense when we had 20" barrels. I'm not sure how much people bayonet with 14.5" ones. Apparently still a requirment for the govt... I can't imagine how you would do this. Its hard steel not soft pot metal. There is talk that soldiers use the tip as a prybar... Compensator works a lot better Military uses flash suppressors that to my knowledge do not act as compensators. I think a dual role one would be better also Sure, but then you can machine the barrel thin again ahead of the gas block. Suppose so I'm not saying these might not have been good ideas at some point, just not sure they make a lot of sense now. Can't argue with you. personally I like it this way as, where it emerges from my rail system, it gives the illusion that it is beefy all the way through, makes it look tougher than a pencil bbl.

It doesn't matter guys. They like things being "muddy", as they can twist and contort their "guilty before innocent" laws to do their bidding. Living in NJ, there are tons of ways simply being found in possession of a gun opens you up to potential prosecution even if you are 100% legal operating under the exemptions. For instance, transporting a handgun to the range... So what if the cop doesn't believe you are really going to or from a range, place of business, or for service or repair... guess what... "tell it to the judge" and you could face illegal possession charges and have to prove you were operating under transport exemptions in court. Same goes nearly any SA gun that the cop or prosecutor thinks cosmetically "gee that looks like it might be illegal". This is the reality we live with. As people get prosecuted under these arcane laws...case by case juries try to decide whether or not people get thrown in jail for 10 years based on ridiculous exemptions, ambiguous prohibitions, insufficient definitions, and just plain absurd statutes. Until we can challenge the constitutionality of these laws directly, and have them stricken from the statutes... things will stay this way. NJ's gun laws are like quantum physics... gun owners are always in a state of being legal and illegal simultaneously until observed by the legal system.... where one or the other will lock in.

I started an entire thread awhile back on this My link

Haven't used it, but thanks for the heads up. I've been using Magnalube-G. About $20 shipped for a 1lb can. For guns would last a lifetime. I also use it for other things like the garage door opener, rails, reloading equipment, and pretty much anything else that needs a stay-put multi-purpose excellent grease.

This judge is not up on recent events... The whole "public saftey" argument is null and void post McDonald/Heller. This is the EXACT argument that has been used to enact gun control laws pre McDonald/Heller, and is the same argument that NJ was using trying to get our carry permit lawsuit dismissed. If the judge did his job, he would not have spewed this antiquated rhetoric.. McDonald decision My link Alito's Opinion Quote

You should really stop with this. You are implying that NJ law abiding citizens are breaking laws owning a Saiga or WASR rifle; needless to say they are NOT. Not something to joke about. You are not making any friends.

Great deal, got 4 of them for $36 shipped! Was only $10 S&H, usually on ammo boxes it is sky high.

OK, because comparing a license to drive with exercising 2A rights are completely off-base. I wish people would stop using the two as comparisons in these discussions.

Didn't someone go over this already... that driving is a privilege not a right. You are not violating, harassing, hindering or impeding on anyone's constitutional or human rights by running a plate check.

I have the original Sig Pro SP2340 in .357sig. Great gun. I am so tempted to pick the SP2022 up here, what a smackin deal. Only thing stopping me is that I am committed to my next pistol being a Sig P229 Elite Stainless.

Its all about what the jury thinks. The defense got the jury thinking on the definition and intent of the law to mean a stock that can shorten a rifle into one that violates state and federal laws on overall length. Which makes sense... easy for someone to grasp that idea... that the intent of the law was to prevent a "loophole" of sorts in that the rifle is a legal length with the stock extended, then illegal with it collapsed/folded. That the intent of the law was to not throw someone in prison for 10 years because their stock moves a few inches back and forth for shooting comfort of different sized people, and one that does not bring the gun into illegal OAL rules. Now, if we can only convince a few federal judges of this, how NJ's ambiguous AWB is unconstitutional with this guy as an example. How the laws ensnare otherwise law abiding people in their confusing, nondescript, and frivolous quagmire of rules.

Everything is clear besides the car accident part. If the guy hit the other guy, why didn't they both stop, call the PD, and swap insurance info? Something else might be going on there... like the Caddy "victim" perhaps was acting violent and the GG decided to get out of dodge while calling 911? If we seperate out the car accident part... and fast forward to the GG having his gun at his side (not aiming it at the "victim") on his OWN property, that is entirely legal under the firearms statutes. I suppose if the "victim" and his wife both said he was aiming the gun at them, I guess the cops had no choice but to arrest and let the courts figure it out. I'm also confused as to why the cops searched his home. He must have consented or they got a warrant as since this all occurred outside the home, there was no legal cause for the police to search the home that I can think of. Never consent and STFU until you get your lawyer, I'm betting he broke these cardinal rules. This is a good example of a previous thread where we discussed HD with a gun. There is almost no benefit in defending your home on the outside when your family is safe inside. Best to lock the doors, family in safe area taking cover, gun at your side in a defensive position calling while calling 911. Also, this kind of crap is why I have CCTV cameras at strategic locations. Any crap goes down around my house, I know where to stand to be recorded. Cheaper than going to court and playing the he said she said game.

People advocating badges , are you kidding me? That's ridiculous. The whole "license check" without RAS that the OCer was breaking a law is absurd. If the cop has a good idea the person is a prohibited person, i.e. just arrested them last year for some violent felony crime, etc.. sure check away as that is RAS that the person may carrying illegally. Otherwise, noway. Under current Philly/PA laws and that standing order... theoretically , LE can line up down the street and check the guy's LTCF 40 times per day walking back and forth to work. This type of thing is ripe for abuse, and down right unconstitutional as you should be able to peaceably go about your business exercising your rights without undue harassment and delay by the government. This is very simple. 2A gives us the right to keep and BEAR arms in this country. Sure there are boundaries to exercising this right responsibly... like not going around waving your gun and threatening people, acting in a violent manner, abusing the right to break laws, etc. Otherwise, any law-abiding citizen should be able to go to Walmart, pass a NICS check, buy a gun, and holster it on their hip and walk down the street without being harassed. If a prohibited person (lets say a prior violent felon) decides to OC a gun, they run the risk of going to jail for a long long time if they are involved in any incident with LE such as a self defense shooting, witness to a crime, car accident, committing a crime, etc any situation where LE would be involved and check the guy out. Not as a result of "papers please" spot checks. These are the same risks the prohibited person takes if they conceal carry a weapon as well. Both situations are illegal as this hypothetical guy is prohibited period. This is why I'm all for being tough on crime when it comes to people abusing their 2A rights and using a gun during the commission of violent crimes.

I also was wondering the same thing regarding the M4 contour being skinny under the handguard, and thicker at the muzzle end, here's what I found. - added strength for drive by bayonetting.. so the end doesn't bend - prevent a knock or drop from bending the end - add weight up front to assist in taming sustained fire barrel rise - standardize on gasblock size

Excellent thanks guys, I couldn't ask for better info. I think I'll hunker down and place the order tomorrow. Ray Ray... I thought of a gun, I have my eye on a M&p 9mm... BUT I figure I'm better served with being set up to reload to save on $$$'s in the long term which would equate to be more guns and savings in the future. Plenty to be kept fed today.

I just wish you could shoot a tornado in the head and be done with it....