Dan

Sweet thanks for the writeup Jon. That's a lot of info! Much of it has me scratching my head, but will probably make sense when I have the LnL in front of me.

Sounds good Maks

FALSE, read the NJ firearms statutes specifically around possession exemptions.

Yup the progressive one. Thanks for your feedback, I hear lots of people like them. Thanks Bab. I forgot to mention I have most of the basics already as I use a Forester single stage press for reloading my .308. I've highlited the items that I am not familiar with. I'm in Matawan/Old Bridge, not far from Belmar where your profile says you are. Would appreciate the help when I get it. I was at the clinic, had a M1A Scout at station 18. I don't remember seeing anyone with a Mosin, you were probably down on the other side. Was a fun class, but IMO there were too many delays between shooting. I felt like I sat around a collective 5 hours doing nothing the whole day. I suppose that is what happens when you have 40 people, not all of them pick up right away on things.

I came into 5 bills worth of Cabelas credit. I'm 85% ready to pull the trigger and picking up an LnL for loading 9mm and .357sig. I know there are people here that use the LnL, I would just like to know if there are any tips/tricks, or additional accessories that are "must have" (besides dies and bases of course). Thanks!

Darn, no more "Evil BLACK Rifles" Otherwise, it does seem set up to fail.

Right tool for the job... as other posters said... Practice 55gr is cheaper than 62gr and up Varmint 50gr bullets with hollow cavities for rapid expansion would be a use also Nobody says you absolutely cannot shoot 55gr out of a 1:7. Just that the general consensus is you will not get as good as accuracy you would from using heavier bullets. Also, it has been noted that there is a potential for overspin, and the jacket coming apart on the bullet from this condition.

One dark and spooky night, follow him until he stops at a light behind a beat-up old junker, then pull up very close behind him, open your door.... and scare the crap outta him.

Thankyou "15636215" I hope that isn't your SSN.

I'm very interested in reading about this case.

Square peg, round hole. Your logic is flawed. Now compare the laws ... a) Murder b) Me (law abiding citizen) walking down the street with a pistol in a holster going to the store. Keep in mind that 2A states "right to keep and bear arms".... not to mention an human right to self defense. Nobody is arguing that laws CAN and DO prevent crimes. We in this case are speaking of gun laws in NJ. 99% of them are solutions to problems that don't exist, as in they prevent b) from ever occuring, not a). Someone who is willing to commit murder will not stop to think... "Gee am I breaking any NJ gun laws here". Hey, i'm willing to meet you halfway. Make the laws tough on people who use guns during the commission of violent crimes. I'm all for that... Someone murders with a gun, attempts to murder with a gun, unjustifiably shoots someone, etc, I'm all for being tough. This way the REAL criminals will be deterred and punished from/if using a gun during the commission of a crime, instead of law abiding and responsible people.

IMO here is what I feel is going on... Case closed in her book. Now if the kid explodes in the future, she is in the clear, as her report states that all the kids were bullying each other equally , aka no problem move along. If she pursued it and took the side of logic and common sense, now she is on the wringer if this kid does something bad. "You knew there was something wrong and you didn't do anything" is what she would get from everyone. Then her and NJ could be held liable. The "system" is not set up to handle this kind of thing, and it breeds this kind of behavior from those who are supposed to be there to protect us. Even if the police acknowledge they feel there is something wrong with the kid, what are the remedies available to them? Child services problably won't step in provided the kid is being fed, taken to the dr's when sick, not being abused (bad parenting isnt being abused according to the law),etc. Then the kid passed the psych eval... What can the police do at this point? She may have been honest with you in your conversation, but she knows she can't do anything about it so its time to clam up and push it along. Perhaps if you rally enough parents together in the class to act as one voice to the school, you can get this kid voted off the island. Especially if it is private school, they will listen if 20 parents are about to yank their kids out over this one problem child.

Great job Frank!

IMO, the cop in this situation is 100% in the wrong. It is akin to walking up to anyone on the street, drawing down on them and ordering them to the ground for no reason at all. The fact that he had a holstered gun does not give the cop authority to do this. The only authority the cop had was to temporarily detain and ask to see his LTCF. There is a fine line between that and harassment. In this situation the cops pushed the fine line away and took a leaping bound into abuse of authority and harassment of someone going about their peaceable legal business. Its OK to ask to see a LTCF, not OK to treat the guy like a dbag, screaming profanities, threatening death, aiming guns, etc. If the cop is going to be afraid of every OCing civilian they see and reacting this way, time for a new job as they are unfit for the job. They can always move to NJ, lol. I know its alien for NJ people to see civilians legally carrying guns. It is so ingrained into our population that guns=bad guys. I can tell you when I travel to other states, and I see multiple armed civilians in a restaurant or other public place, I actually feel safer.

If it were up to NJ , all civil rights would be limited to the walls of one's home.

That's my take. Whether or not the guy is obnoxious or carrying intentionally to attract PD attention is not the issue. The issue is he was doing something completely legal, and the cops approached and harassed him. He did not run up to a group of cops doing cartwheels screaming that he is pro-2A and right to carry na, nah na, you can't do anything to me... What if it was one of us in this thread that weren't "out to get attention" OCing down the street and encountered a cop screaming profanity at you, get on your knees, and how he's going to murder you if you twitch funny. I would say that is a civil rights violation big time, as you are prohibited from peaceably and legally exercising your rights as a result of being harassed and threatened to be shot by the police. Maybe the PA State Police need to start some undercover firearms carry operations in Philly to catch Philly cops breaking state laws so that civilians don't have to be the test cases. Never happen...

Easy, if you are shooting mostly 55gr 1:9 would be the choice. If you plan on going for more precision shooting with heavier bullets, like 68gr and still want to be able to shoot lots of 55gr even 62gr , a 1:8 twist would serve you better, though I don't see a 1:8 choice listed. Also, barrel length strictly dictates velocity. What range are you looking for the rifle to be effective at , both for target shooting and SHTF? A 20" tube is pretty long for a multi-purpose rifle IMO. The only purpose for barrel length is to push the bullet at a higher velocity during its flight trajectory. The maximum effective range you plan for the gun should determine barrel length. Example, a 14.5" barrel should be just as accurate as a 20" barrel at 300 yards. Push that to 600 yards, and the 20" should have an advantage as the projectile will have more velocity behind it making it less prone to wind deflection.

I only saw spam and pro-2A/disdane for the BATF's "study". Is this a compilation of all the feedback emails , or just those against the proposed ban? Not a single "this ban is a good idea" email...

Take a look at Cherry Ridge http://www.anjrpc.org/?cherry_ridge

Ty, I have one complaint... The Geissele SD3G trigger that a) you took the time to speak with me on the phone about, and b) got to me super fast as promised; is so damn awesome that now any AR I build I will just have to have one included on the build list. This has raised the cost of any future AR builds for me.

Cool

I can't show up on my Honda Interceptor?

I'm all for preventing violence, and not condoning violence against the police even if they are doing something illegal, but this ruling is blatantly unconstitutional. In reality, it gives the ability for the police to disregard 4th amendment rights without fear of reprisal unless the victim is wealthy enough to file a civil rights lawsuit against the cop / department. Its called deterrence, the main tool laws have that drive behavior away from doing illegal things, if the cop knows that illegally entering a home opens him up to legal physical resistance by the homeowner, along with a civil rights suit on top of that, which are both backed up by the 4th and the courts... they WOULD NOT PERFORM THE ILLEGAL ACT in the first place. They would stop and think... do we have the authority to enter here without a warrant? (things like crime in progress, lives in danger, someone getting murdered, etc) Unless the victim has the financial and resource backing of a civil rights organization, a vast majority of the population will not be able to challenge the police in civil court. Now the police can size up the folks, and if they look poor enough that they couldn't defend themselves after the fact, its green light for violating their constitutional rights. Another notch for police state mentality.

Welcome! Are you a snowbird, avoiding our pleasant NJ winters?

I 100% agree with you, wasn't being argumentative, simply preaching to the choir. Baby steps.