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What I thought I implied in my original statement is that there is no rule #2. It doesn't exist for the for the average person. To clarify: I am referring to that which is legal only. Rule #1 covers legal purpose (as I stated before). If the purpose is legal (such as a tool) then rule #2 is moot. There is no law against carrying a concealed or non-concealed tool. The problem is some (not all) LEO's seem to always look at such items as illegal weapons first and therefore you have to prove to the LEO it's not a weapon nor will it be used as a weapon. Like most of NJ weapons law you are guilty until you prove yourself otherwise. Whether or not you are confronted by an LEO over an exposed but sheathed knife or a visible clip on a pocket knife depends on the circumstances and which LEO you meet. IMO such laws are poorly written and too many that enforce them are not duly instructed in their meaning; otherwise the average citizen wouldn't have so much trepidation about carrying a simple pocket knife.

Excellent letter Jimmy.

I know I never voted of him and the sooner he and Lautenberg are out the better.

pjd832 - apology accepted. All I was trying to point out in my initial post (and I guess I didn't do a very good job) was to say there are a lot of people who may wish to show their support and are not able to, and there needs to be an event or a way in which all of us can be involved.

To whom it may concern: My wife and I are in our late fifties and I am disabled (as if it were anyone's business to begin with.) When I was in my 20's, 30's and 40's nothing would have kept me from attending such an event. I am also a veteran, so don't lecture me on the importance of the 2nd Amendment. I was serving this country before some of you were born. There were no comments made on my opinions about the NRA or my other suggestions, yet some of you wasted no time on attacking my reasoning if I should not be able to attend the rally. We are fighting for the same thing, be a little more understanding and tolerant of fellow gun owners and don't jump to conclusions. (thanks for your support greatgunstatenj).

Same thing here as well. blah, blah, blah. All about what he thinks and not about what WE think. (I didn't vote for him and you can see why).

I think the numbers of most rallies will be dampened by the fact they are scheduled on work days and it is wintertime. I know my wife and I would like to attend the NJ rally on Feb. 8th, but there is no way I can stand around outside for an undetermined amount of time in 20-30 degree weather. I appreciate those who can and will attend the rally on Feb. 8th but I am not sure I will be able to make it. As I have said before, the NRA should have asserted itself and appointed someone to organize rallies in each state. One big rally is better than many tiny rallies. Every gun club or forum wants to have a rally. We need to be organized and find a way for everyone to get involved. Something that would not depend on work day or weather etc. ...a National 2nd Amendment Day for example. Maybe everyone could drive with their lights on and if you see another car with it's lights on honk your horn one time, or fly a certain type of flag on your car or tie a ribbon to your antenna or wear a Bow-tie to work (lol) something. The NRA could promote it and give it media attention so when it happens people will be aware of it's meaning. We not only want legislators to see our numbers but the citizenry as a whole.

You ever notice how most of the politicians have contact forms where you have to choose a category or subject from a drop down menu? I believe they do this because for each topic on the list they have a canned response. I have rarely, if ever, have had a response that gave me the impression that that they had actually read my correspondence. But I still send my comments anyway, hoping that others are doing the same.

Well, that was a bust. It was more like the Chris Christie feel good hour with too much schmoozing with the governor.

As for the governors press conference, I guess you could interpret it many different ways. The one thing Christie did was give us time... you know "speak now or forever hold your peace". The "squeaky wheel always gets the grease" and the anti-gun crowd has been squeaking loud and long; now it's our turn. (excuse the cliché's).

Welcome to the forum.

Great article Brian. Thanks.

Star-ledger editorial.... (excuse my french, but what an A-hole). ...."And a gun could be the hardest thing to steal in the house, if carefully hidden or kept stored under lock and key". -Yeah. Like a car stored under lock and key never gets stolen right? Kind of defeats the purpose of hiding it when they know firearms are there. They will just keep looking till they find them. ...."A burglar could much more easily -- and safely -- steal a bracelet and use the proceeds from it to buy a gun with no background check, either at a gun show or illegally through a straw purchaser or online ad." -Yeah right. Why do the anti-gun crowd seem to think that handguns are so easy to legally purchase? Where in the world do they shop that you can get a handgun delivered to you in NJ from an on-line retailer? Name some names editor or shut up. The editor seems to be a self-proclaimed expert on criminal behavior as he constantly professes to know what a burglar would and wouldn't do. That's the trouble with these guys, they believe they know everything.

I agree with "gun appreciation day" in principle, but I think it was not well planned. A lot of gun ranges are in the "boonies" and few people are going to notice the increase in support except those already in the firearms community and in places like PA where every Walmart or Sears sells firearms or accessories it splits the people up into very small groups. Gun shops are already making a ton of money right now... they know how much we appreciate firearms. What we need to to is show the rest of the country how we feel as gun owners and as 2nd Amendment supporters. What should have been done is have a National "Support the 2nd Amendment Day". On that day, everyone who supports the 2nd Amendment should drive with their lights on and maybe give their horn a tap when they see another vehicle with their lights on, or have a certain color ribbon tied to their car antenna, or fly the American Flag on their vehicle, etc. that way more people can participate. Not everyone can take off work and go to a rally. But if people are going to rally... I think it would have been better if everyone would go to their local municipal building or town-hall. Those places are usually very visible and would probably get better media coverage. At a time like this the NRA should have taken the lead. They have the resources to put together a National Rally, but unfortunately I don't see anything happening. Instead of one big unifying plan we have many people with good, but differing ideas which makes us look divided and unorganized. Anyway, that's how I see it.

Hmmm. So, security experts can open these safes/vaults/lockers/containers (no surprise there), but showing everyone else how to do it? Not a good idea. I do agree, at the minimum, these type of devices should be child proof. Unfortunately, most of the methods they used were beyond a toddlers ability to figure out, but I'm sure a teen will find it interesting.

vladtepes I couldn't agree more.

As for NJ Senator Lautenberg, he wasted no time in issuing his inane comments on the NRA's plan... Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., in a statement after the press conference, called LaPierre's plan "reckless." "It is beyond belief that following the Newtown tragedy, the National Rifle Association's leaders want to fill our communities with guns and arm more Americans," he said. Read more: http://www.foxnews.c.../#ixzz2FiWYrT82 I'm beginning to think he (Lautenberg) is mentally ill. Perhaps we should be watching him? Obviously, no plan supported by the NRA is going to get any positive comment from the anti-gun community. They are not willing to listen to any other ideas but their own. They are completely closed minded. (I didn't vote for him either and I never will.)

After signing up for NRA membership my wife and I received emails welcoming us into the NRA and thanking us for our support, they did not berate us for not joining sooner (as you apparently have.) We have our own reasons for not joining the NRA prior to this date as I am sure others do as well. Perhaps some people were members for years and then let their membership laps and never got around to renewing it, or perhaps it was an issue with money or maybe they are new to firearms and haven't joined until recently, etc.. So, unless you were talking to specific individuals, don't lump us all together. We are on the same side of the issue - don't be so divisive.

Wife and I both signed up today.

I find it disturbing that more and more LEO's (esp. those with a military background) seem to refer to the general citizenry in terms such as "friendlies" as if we were in a war zone like Iraq or Afghanistan. We are U.S. citizens... not friendlies or enemy combatants. This military type bent that law enforcement has undertaken is of concern. (IMO) The LEO's with finger on the trigger response as in the OP's statement was unnecessary. Heaven forbid no sudden moves were made, or that someone didn't pull a cell phone out of their pocket. Being an LEO is inherently a dangerous job. My hat's off to people who choose that as an occupation and make it a career as well as those in the military (and I speak as a military vet myself). That being said, mitigating your own safety by transferring the exposure to danger to the civilian population is not right either. ie. I've seen too many shootings in the news as of late where LEO's have shot an innocent or unarmed person by mistake for one reason or another.

(IMHO) A lot of people play (or have played D&D type games) but you don't see many people running around with swords and axes trying to kill people because it is easily identified as fantasy. Games like D&D take place in a fantasy world using ancient weapons or magic, whereas the settings for games such as Call of Duty etc. are set in modern times with modern weapons. Therefore it becomes hard for young minds to separate fantasy and reality. Perhaps they should restrict games which simulate modern warfare to the age of 21+ with an exemption for persons under the age of 21 who are serving or who have served in the military.

Remember right after 9/11 when every-time you heard an airplane it made you look up. It seems that's the way everyone is right now about firearms, everyone's jumpy. I hope things calm down soon before something bad happens. RedBowTies88... stay safe.

New Headline: Cerberus to sell Bushmaster maker after shootings. "Following pressure from a major investor, U.S. private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management is selling gunmaker Freedom Group, whose Bushmaster AR-15 rifle was used in the Connecticut school massacre last week." "Wal-Mart Stores Inc took down an informational website about semi-automatic Bushmaster rifles." Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/12/18/cerberus-to-sell-bushmaster-maker-after-shootings/#ixzz2FRmhb4Ka Read more: http://www.foxbusine.../#ixzz2FRlmwaBb I do not own an AR- type rifle nor am I a Fan of DIck's or Cheaperthandirt... but this craziness is spreading and I hope it stops soon.

Cheaper than dirt reviewing polices concerning online sales. Dicks Sporting goods has also suspended firearms sales. http://www.theblaze....-firearm-sales/ I'm surprised that online retailers have been rattled by this on again off again push for gun control. Soon the online purchase of firearms related merchandise will become hard to find due to business's trying to mitigate their liability and distance themselves from the actions of nut-jobs who may use a weapon for mass killings or suicide. Recent events smell of gun control on an array of different levels; local, state and federal. If you are not an NRA member it might be a good idea to sign up now to make your voice heard.

Hope things calm down after the 1st of the year. I'd like to shop for a rifle and/or shotgun but these runs on guns and ammo really drive up the wait time and the prices.