Sixtytwo327

Second plug for a S&W 617. If you find one, buy it; you will not regret it. A classic in a way that other production .22s just cannot compare.

Welcome; I've had good luck with JCPD in the past.

GFH allows rifles at 25. The GFH staff is amazing, and you can shoot whatever ammo you want - they won't give you a hard time. That said, the guy with the $3k AR setup shooting rapid fire 48" groups at 10 yards and putting holes in other peoples targets because he can't keep it on the paper: please don't be that guy.

"Single stack" is this year's hot marketing term. We have snubbies, belly guns, carry revolvers, carry guns, compact guns, sub-compact guns, pocket guns, purse guns, mouse guns... wait, what? All the gun magazines and Internet sites have decided we're in horrible danger because we don't have a sub-compact single-stack 9? Better run to the store! Not that I complain too much - any excuse for another permit.

Sorry, I’m not a lawyer (I make an honest living) so legal scholars please jump in… yes, the Supreme Court has never decisively ruled on the issue of concealed carry. But they have, through refusing to hear many previous cases, let contradictory decisions stand. In both Heller and McDonald, the Supreme Court said the government cannot ban gun possession, however in those same cases, the Supreme Court found there is no inherent right to concealed carry. Their "official ruling" is that there is no ruling. This 9th circuit decision found that a state cannot ban both open and Concealed, as that would be unconstitutional - which establishes we must have one or the other. This also contradicts what courts in New York, MD, etc., have found, and the Supreme Court has refused to hear those challenges. The Supreme Court has, however, acknowledged in many decisions the bans on concealed carry and open carry in America that have been in place since the 1800s (New Jersey began banning concealed in 1905) - the court has refused to hear challenges to both decisions banning and allowing both open and concealed carry in the past… which upholds lower courts decisions - ruling by not ruling - which makes things a mess. Anyway, I'm not an expert - and not trying to pick a fight. This is what I'm reading: From the Justice Department, on the Second Amendment, as it pertains to an individual right (this link is from the NRA-ILA): http://www.justice.gov/olc/secondamendment2.pdf And the precedential for Drake: http://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/121150p.pdf

Basically, the Supreme court has held states can restrict concealed carry OR open carry, but not both. You cannot have a state that bans open carry and bans concealed carry - thought there is a lot more nuance to it. And while yes, this contradicts the ruling of a lower court, it's an issue if and only if the Supreme Court agrees to hear it, and even if they do; ramifications are months if not years away. Listen to Guntalk Radio from Sun, 16 February 2014 (Part A). They explain the whole situation much better than that article.

Why should we give up (more of) our rights in return for something the legislators should be doing anyway? There's nothing to compromise on; if the law is unclear, legislators, do your f**king jobs and clarify it.

I have the full size SR1911 and like it a lot. Inexpensive, but most definitely not "cheap."

Like all of us, I got caught up reading the hype, and I can think of two reasons. First, .380 firearms are still huge seller, like the Ruger LCP. There is a lot of demand for the caliber - regardless of my own or your opinion on the viability of the .380 for defense (I'll stay out of that debate). Also, I've read that some departments place caliber restrictions on back up guns - they might be going after police money. Second, Glock already as a small 9mm. No, it's not "single-stack," but I think that's just a marketing term (Mr. Colion Noir wrote a great summary here. "Very, very, very, rarely am I able to carry the Shield and not the Glock [26].") Their market research probably shows anyone looking for a sub-compact 9 and likes Glock already owns a 26 - and Glock doesn't want the two to compete, as the 26 is already the primary competition for the XDs and Shield. Are they leaving money on the table? Maybe, maybe not. But Glock is a special company; they do things their own way, and it works for them. Anyway, my $0.02.

Having gone down the "build and customize" road, I get it. When I built my first, one "mil-spec" part wasn't "mil-spec" enough; this was before YouTube, and a book helped me troubleshoot. I agree - building one is a worthwhile project and a great way to learn the platform. Still, just a consideration, if you're new or want extra piece of mind, spend $20 on a manual - to have it and not need it.

My $0.02, to first-time builders, if you're going to build/assemble, spend $20 and buy an armorer's manual or some other hard copy book - something written by a gunsmith that contains torque values, diagrams, tools, compounds, etc. Unless, of course, you prefer to get your gunsmith advice from a service whose primary purpose is to disseminate cat videos .

I'll be around - and also this weekend. I've got a Do-All Thrower and four boxes of clays sitting in the trunk.

Yes. Went to pull out of a space (street parking). A guy with a luxury SUV with "power transfer auto terrain sensing" is spinning his wheels and getting out and digging out and cursing. We clear our car off, no digging, warm it up for 5 minutes, rock the car about three times, then pull into the street, minimal wheelspin. I got the wide-mouth, wide-eyed stare and we started laughing. Just like a commercial. It was beautiful.

Small guns are more difficult to shoot accurately. Shooting one forces you to develop marksmanship fundamentals. Good enough reason for me.

Same dilemma here. I tried two different Z-24s and sent them both back because they were in awful shape; I was looking two years ago - no idea what they're going for now. I did like the Leupold VX-R (#4) 1-4x20, but then my permits came in, so it got put on hold. But I think that or a Leupold 2-7 would be nice. Right now, all I have are irons and a good MFI Scope Mount, though, for when I finally do pick up something.

Love the RE series - looks nice.

This, but 17 - it's the original that started the plastic craze.

I can't think of anyone I know who, by now, doesn't have a brick or two. I bought often and in bulk before this whole thing started, so thankfully, I got to skip the panic buying. I hoped people would see the recalls and chill out. But you're probably right.

Gun For Hire in Woodland Park (rental list here) is a clean, modern range. Go on a week night (they're open until 9 or 10) to avoid the Saturday/Sunday crowds. As for recoil, some good points discussed in a thread about the 22/45 (here). Suggestion? Letting her buy whatever 22, for whatever reason, with zero input from you. Then (by coincidence) you should pick up a center fire version of the same. You can figure out the rest. Good luck.

Cabelas - the Gun Room. You have to call the store and speak with a sales associate, but there are deals to be had if you want a specific model. +1. Look for the store without a fancy website, and then call them - got a great deal on a 617 like that.

There should be a standing recall on Golden Bullet. Still, maybe a couple huge recalls will put a damper on the panic buying.

I have the 22/45 Target; highly recommended. With center fire semi-autos, I have found some new shooters are intimidated by the mass of the slide reciprocating; it makes them think the gun recoils a lot harder than it actually does. The Ruger charging handle moves, but its also light - so I think it's a good intro to the semi-auto action. That and my S&W 617 are two of my favorites, and the #1 and #2 choice for new shooters. Easiest drill in the world - shoot ten rounds with a 22/45, shoot ten rounds with a center fire pistol, then go back to the 22/45. You get this amazing "Ah-ha" moment when shooters return to the 22, because they see the flinch and muzzle dip - it's been a great training tool, for others, but especially for myself. No worries about quality; low cost because it's a simple firearm and they've been in production for decades, not because they cut corners. It is as Ruger advertises: "Rugged, Reliable."

I just bought some stuff from them that arrived yesterday. Not saying it can't be true, but I'm not seeing it. ...yet.

Flip a coin. Right there, at the counter.

Midway USA?