AverageJoe

Yea, thats the only thing I can think of...not sure if it got bounced back to them or not...I just know I didn't get it to my gmail, but I got it to my work email. I'm going to problaby take the 124g and then sell it.

http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2011/12/13/firearm-sales-way-up-during-holiday-season/ ROCKLIN (CBS13) — If you’ve pulled the trigger on a new firearm this holiday season, join the club. As in your neighborhood shooting club, because faster than a speeding bullet, guns are going out the door. Well, not right away, of course — there is that 10-day waiting period, 11 here at TDS Guns in Rocklin, where Bob Norgard wasn’t caught off-guard. He’s making his purchase today so he’ll have his firearm under the Christmas tree as he joins a growing number of people who say they’re simply “doing what they need to do to protect themselves and their family.” This surge in gun sales — the best holiday sales season in three years, according to the Firearms Dealers Association — got a shot in the arm on Black Friday. “Black Friday sales were off the charts this year,” a TDS employee said. FBI stats show the number of background checks done on Black Friday three years ago pales in comparison to the number done this year — a 32-percent jump. “People are just coming in to protect themselves,” the employee said. “I think there’s just a lot of things going on in the world that are getting people thinking.” More women are buying guns than ever before as criminals get more desperate. Like break-ins while people are at home sleeping. It’s happened twice in a few weeks in a Rocklin neighborhood. TDS Guns says at least three women from the area have come in to buy a gun because as one victim told CBS13: “I’m gonna be ready for the next time.”

Another update. Yesterday I called them up, s/w a girl who was really nice and wanted to help...She stated she will email me a return shipping label so I can ship back the remaining ammo that I have(around 380 rounds maybe?). And that I either have my choice of a full refund or to receive another order, this time for their new 124g ammo(being they're not offering the 115g). I didn't recieve the shipping label yesterday so I called back and s/w her again today...she looked it up and said it shows that she did send it...only thing I can thing of is Google blocked the email from Fedex.com...not in spam folder either. So I had her resend it to my work email, received it in 2 minutes. I'll be shipping it back tomorrow....the wheels are turing.

Wanna adopt a 37 year old? Potty trained and everything.

Yea, buddy of mine has one with the grip extender...soon as I picked it up it fit my hand better than OJ's glove and I know I wanted one. I remember you selling yours, and I just missed out on it.

I'm eying up the G29 w/mag extender for my next handgun.

I'll take two(2) of the 6" plates w/holes please...paypal sent.

S&B is steel core IIRC...I know Bullet Hole doesn't allow S&B.

Use this site, it'll scan the interwebs for you: http://ammoseek.com/ Stay away from USA Ammo, JUNK to the umpteenth power in my experience (see my thread). IMO, theres no such thing as "plinking" ammo....when I'm "plinking" I'm practicing on keeping accuracy for life/death situation. Don't mess around with "cheap/junk" ammo, its not worth it.

Interested. Anyone from the NNJ area getting in on this to do a possible relay?

So here is an update. Finally after persistent phone calls throughout everyday, I finally reached a human..I think. Talked to a guy named Steve, he mentioned that they have been extremely busy filling orders while they change suppliers. He asked for my info and what was happening with the ammo, I then started to stat that they have 4 emails stating this info. But I digress, gave him the info, he looked up my order, told him what was going on, then he said that his boss was out for the day and that I should be getting a call back "in the early part of next week." I kept asking who would I get the call from and at first it seemed like he didn't want to give me his boss' name, by the 3rd time I asked he finally gave me a name of Robert. So, I will give them till next Wed noon time...after that I'm writing a script at work to have my phone call there every 30 seconds till someone picks up lol.

Look at it this way, if there are other shooters, say 2 shooters in the rightmost ports...if you mention you're going to pick up your brass, they can position you a few ports away as to not get all the brass mixed up.

They're def watching through the glass from time to time.

Maybe lucky, or maybe they normally put out a good product and my first experience is a bad one, I don't know. Not only did I get a bad batch of ammo, they've yet to make any efforts in contacting me back. At this point I don't expect them to either. Once my bullet puller comes in I'll break em down and keep the primed brass. I'll be sure to let my experience be know as much as and whereever I can.

Really? lol

At 24 days I called the FBI to see if they received my prints. They told me they just went back to my PD. Got my FID 28th day.

Is there another issue going on at the same time that I missed? What controversial email ad campaign? Two emails and two phone calls w/o any kind of acknowledgement. The phone calls get forwarded to a diff number with a generic vm box. Not even a msg saying "You reached USA Ammo...." Theres another thing I did to try and contact them(still no reply), but I'm waiting to say anything incase they get wind of this thread lol.

Ok, I'm just going by what Nick said lol...that they're undersized. Possible that or a combination of things causing the issue.

No, that tool you mentioned wasn't used. Theres no denying this ammo is FUBAR. At this point I shouldn't have to tell an ammo manufacturer whats wrong with their ammo. After my initial email they should of acknowledged my concern(s) and request to send some of the ammo back so they could look, and then go from there. This may be the wrong approach but its how I feel. At this point the actual ammo isn't the main concern anymore. Whats more concerning is, after a week, there still have been no attempts at any customer service. Now think of this. What if something happened and I actually had to depend on this ammo to save my and/or my family's life. Judging by the first pic I uploaded theres no way to think I could ever depend on any accuracy. This was the first time trying this ammo and I will never use this ammo again. Its just not worth the risk.

I believe the no rapid fire has more to do with the baffles.

So I just got back from Mastodon, Nick and the crew were very helpful. Whacky group in an awesome way lol. What we came up with is the USA Ammo is much smaller at the OGIVE. OGIVE: USA .334/5 WWB .350 So it looks like this is the culprit. The bullets are FMJ, but just look to be of lesser quality. In a nutshell, hopefully USA Ammo will contact me back. Worst comes to worst, I'll pull all the bullets and have approx 400 primed casings waiting for my reload set up and never deal with them ever. Lesson learned. My initial email was on 11/28. First phone call was 11/29. Follow up email and phone call was 12/1. Like I was tellin the guys up at Mastodon, at the very least contact me back acknowledging my concern(s) and say you're looking into it. Even if they're getting slammed, tell me that. Small communication is better than none at all.

No, just the first time there. Don't take things so literal. No one is sitting there timing you between shots lol. Just go have fun, all there is to it.

Hey Nick, still good for 1pm?

Did they turn on the lane light on? Each firing lane has its own lighting...its easy to get sidetracked and sometimes they forget to turn it on lol...just wave to get their attn and point to the light, or poke your head out the door and let them know. As far as rentals go, they basically took a bunch of their personal firearms for now and have them for rent. Anyone wanting to know what they have for rentals can call up and ask.