Kaiser7

Lol, the best one I got was from the Vietnamese dude at the Berlin Farmer's market. you can get them Cheap-as-hell from him (When he has them), and they're usually in good shape.

To me the metal cans are better if I pick them up for like $5-8. Given the choice, I'd take the metal ones just because they're cooler. But I'm not looking to pay $20 for a single can shipped. I'll just keep my eyes peeled locally, they come up.

Not sure if that's a good deal or not when you factor shipping.

What's a budget? The state can just keep spending ad infinitum, right? I thought that you were supposed to tax people into prosperity.

Funny, I just referenced this company in another thread--but forgot their name. Just wondering, how exactly does the brass exchange program work? Do you just let something sit in your cart until they get the brass? I did email them asking if they'd make 8mm mauser lol.

What are these other things you're hearing? Just out of curiosity.

Who cares about that stuff? Cash is king XD. Just kidding, but yeah, the price of ammo is a huge consideration for which guns to get and stuff. I've always been rather shocked how expensive it is, even when I first got into shooting. I know there is a company that buys used brass, and remanufactures rounds, supposedly they're actually good, and not a danger at all. I think you can take used brass, and based off the price of current brass prices, they'll apply the price of whatever brass you send in towards a purchase of ammo. They sell both remanufactured and new production, only problem is their product line is somewhat limited at the moment, and they only accept brass for calibers they produce. (But, at least it's common stuff like .223, .308, .45acp, etc.)

Yeah, I turned the dehumidifier back on a few days ago (before the creation of this thread), and in about a day, the humidity was down to about 20% in the basement. The dehumidifier we have is crazy haha.

My ex was half Taiwanese (other half white). She got miffed at me because i wasn't paying attention to her for literally 5 seconds, and punched me in the abdomen while I had mono (which I got from her). Ended up rupturing my spleen and sending me to the hospital for 5 days due to internal bleeding. And that was only after a few months of dating haha. Current gf is cool though, and funny. She wants an AR7 because she thinks they're "Cute". But I think she knows that I wouldn't want her "giving face" because it would make me feel weird, but I could be wrong.

Hahaha XD I didnt think about that. But usually she tells me that she's "the man" in the relationship, and that I'm "bottom bitch, nah mean?" Shes a trip lol.

Yup! I haven't been there in a while, but he used to be there. Maybe he doesn't sell there anymore, I haven't checked, but that's exactly where he'd set up.

I don't think that she couldn't handle a larger caliber later, but she is a tiny Vietnamese girl. I have a bow with like, a 20lb draw weight, and she couldn't pull the string back, so I was worried that she wouldn't be able either handle recoil, or the weight of the weapon itself would be an issue.

Pandora's box, once it's opened, I'm pretty sure you can never close it. Maybe that's the wrong analogy, but you get the idea. Yup, you'll get a round made by Tulammo, or Wolf (still pretty cheap) that's just copper-coated lead, but it'll cost $7 for a box of 20 or so. However, it will take a while for them to tool up, and make the supply--and i imagine they're more likely to make it than any american manufacturers. Plus, they have not incentive while there is still a supply of surplus, until that's gone, no one will buy more expensive new production. I thought you were talking to me... I was going to say, my job is dead tonight... i'm on here, and writing a paper for someone for money haha.

Pretty much, any bullet with a steel core that can be fired out of a pistol is "armor piercing" and gets the ol' banhammer from ATF. Most surplus ammo from various Communist Bloc countries is copper coated steel, or copper over steel and lead, etc. 7.62x54R is an example. However, it's perfectly legal to import this ammo for sale if there are no commercially-made "pistols" for it. As you know, Tacti-cool idiots think for some dilluded reason that an AR/AK with no stock, and a short barrel is somehow UBERAWESOMEEFFECTIVE. So, some idiot out of Arizona made one, listed it on Gunbroker (Even saying in the post the AK74 pistol was "one of a kind" and invited people to "Try searching for another", because "Some idiots INCORRECTLY believe making a pistol in 5.45x39 will get surplus 7N6 banned." BTW, some place, Black Horse Armory has considered releasing a "pistol" in 7.62x54R, which would get ALL of the surplus ammo in that caliber banned from import. As for future ammo supply, it'll be available, you'll just have to buy new production, which will be hard to find at first, but will come around. Apparently the same thing happened with 7.62x39 surplus in 1994. I'm pretty sure companies like Wolf and Tulammo will produce some for a decent price.

I actually like that idea. I'm not sure why I didn't think of that, i'll get a surplus ammo crate, and just put ammo boxes in it. Part of it is aesthetics (I think it would be cool) and also I feel having a crate for it would be a good way to keep that stuff together. My main problem is that there is no electrical outlet near the safe, I think the nearest one is on the breaker, about 20 feet away.

Currently I have them stacked on the sides, good point though, if I were to have them all lined up in the rear of the safe, I could stack ammo on the sides. There is a dehumidfier. I should mention in case anyone doesn't know. I'm a college student, and live at home with a mom who hates guns, if it were up to me, the safe would be in my closet or something upstairs, but she doesn't really wanna look at it, soooo.... But you did give me a good idea. The safe isn't very close to the dehumidifier (But to be fair, the dehumidfier we have is insane. place it in the basement of our 3 bedroom home, and it'll such all the moisture out of the whole house in about a day.) But I think it might be good to pick up one of those little plastic containers that holds a large amount of silica gel or w/e, and place that in my safe to ensure it's dry there. Is that a good idea?

I considered just getting more ammo cans. I know this Vietnamese dude at the Berlin mart sells really nice milsurp ones for a crazy-cheap price. If you have the patience to haggle with him, you can walk away with a bunch of stuff dirt cheap. I got a German flag, ammo can, surplus camo army jacket in nice shape, and something else (I forget what) for like $12. Odds are if he has any ammo cans, I can probably haggle for a little bit and get them for like $3 apiece lol. But I'm surprised there aren't any larger crate-sized things available.

silca isn't a bad idea. I'm gonna start saving that stuff. It'll at least help. Basically, idk if they have crate-sized "ammo cans" with the seal and all.

So I have a small 10-gun safe (Naturally "10 gun" means 5), with a small shelf on top for ammo. Now, I have very little ammo, and it's already getting filled up. My safe is also in my basement, which tends to be a little humid sometimes (hence why I clean my guns every few months regardless of whether I shoot them--hoping froglube will be good for protecting them). Now I have one 7.62x51 Surplus ammo can, but that's about full. Ideally, I'd like some sort of crate or chest that I could store ammo in, and would protect them during storage. I'm not sure what type of milsurp stuff is out there, but if there's a cheap decent solution, I'm all ears. I could probably go with a bunch of milsurp ammo cans, but I think one container would be ideal. I also considered a tupperware box, but with the place I'm thinking of storing it, something that's a little bit lower-profile with respect to height would be better.

There are aftermarket stocks available. But I'd rather save some money than have a pretty gun, especially if later on I can make it prettier. I see it like this. Sure you can go out with a super-hot chick, and she'll look good on your arm, but if it's not fun being with her, what's the point? Better to find that girl who's totally fun to be with, and maybe later on she'll get a different haircut or something, and look stunning. Same thing applies to rifles. I'm a relatively inexperienced shooter, but I've found that even with the iron sights, I can get nickel sized groups at at an indoor pistol range using CCI Minimag with the savage--not bad for someone who can count their range trips on both hands. A buddy of mine has a stock one (Apart from a scope and I think an aftermarket polymer stock), and hits the same groupings on a bullseye at 100yds or so (IIRC, maybe it's 100 feet). The gun is scary accurate in the right hands with no work. I also know that one of my times at SJSC, a guy was shooting it at the 100yds area practicing for competition, and I don't think he mentioned having any significant upgrades into it. It's just a really nice gun, especially for the price.

Can I ask something? With competitions, are there usually prizes and things? Also, what would be competitive for an average competition, not some high-end sort of deal? At least with .22? Do a lot of these people have super-modified rifles?

I've found the savage mkii to be super-accurate, and i have a buddy who has one and has put some upgrades into it. I know there are a lot of good upgrades available, but out of the box it's probably one of the most accurate guns I've shot. That being said, I only have two complaints. I don't like the mag-release, which is basically a little tab you pull back towards you. Also, and this applies to all bolt-action .22 rifles, but i feel like the operation is kind of awkward since the rearwards pull for the bolt is so small, it feels a bit awkward to me. But if you're looking for a bolt action .22, I'd say the savage is a good way to go.

Or that this could have been prevented by the NSA's programs...

Given the information here, and the review I read, I think, as of right now, I'm going to lean towards the Mossberg 464, or a Henry I think. I'm not quite looking to buy right now. I'm TRYING to avoid the temptation to buy a new gun right now, as I want to finally spend my money on a SJSC membership so I can actually shoot. (We'll see how that goes. I've been telling myself this for the past few years haha). But thank all of you, the information is really helpful, because now that I have an idea in my mind, and know a little more about the calibers and stuff, I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for a good deal. Now WHERE to find a good deal on one of those I have to figure out...

I got a milsurp one from him for like $30 or so. I'd have to check when I get home to be sure, but I want to say mine has a dark gray spring, why?