Kaiser7

Honestly if i could get a rough action, and can get my hamds on tools, I'll build one/ restore one. I could use a summer project for when schools out.

Do they? I have no clue. That would be good. I imagine they could make something good for a reasonable price. I dont have a set price, because im just trying to learn more now. Ideally less expensive is better, but a good deal on a quality rifle is king. In other words, I want to research to see what prices are, so i know a good deal when i see it.

I'm a relative noob to archery, having just gotten a bow at Christmas, and I wouldn't want to risk making the deer suffer because i'm a bad shot. But you can hunt in NJ with a rifle? Where? Pretty much I feel like a rifle is one of the most humane ways, since it drops them pretty fast. Plus, I'm much more confident in my abilities with a rifle as opposed to a shotgun. I mean, I know you can use a .22 for trap, but I was under the impression I couldn't lug out my 8mm mauser and take down a deer. But I really know very little about hunting, so maybe I wouldn't need it. I really have no clue haha.

Haha, this may shock you, but that's exactly what my Global Ecology professor said. More or less, there needs to be more hunters in NJ to keep the population in check, currently the deer are wrecking havoc on the ecosystems by eating anything they can reach (including young plants), and spreading disease. I actually wouldn't be adverse to hunting, I had venison once, it was delicious. Mom wouldn't like it, but w/e. It's more a matter of me not having gotten around to taking the courses, and the fact you can't hunt with a rifle in NJ.

It's possible a deer could easily be killed with good shot placement, not to mention the ecology of NJ's deer population. Since they don't really have any natural predators in NJ, the deer population is huge here. As a result, they eat most of the available food (Next time you drive take a notice at the woods you see. You don't see much underbrush, or branches/leaves below a certain point--deer have eaten most of the available food.) As a result, the deer in NJ tend to be undernourished. Plus, with the density of their population, disease spreads quickly, so a lot of them are fairly sickly anyway.

I was thinking .45-70govt because "Go big or go home", but then I realized I'm not a hunter, so that's probably impractical, plus I don't even know what that ammo costs. But it sounded badass hahaha

All good points. So far I feel like a Henry would be best, if the newer Winchesters aren't any good. I'm not sure what caliber to go with. Odds are, it would just be a fun-gun, though I did hear leverguns are excellent multi-purpose and SHTF oddly enough. I bought a Savage MKII as my first gun in .22, and while I love how accurate it is, I have several times contemplated selling it to get a .22 levergun, simply because I find bolt action to be a pain to operate for such a short round. Basically, I feel like the action of raising the bolt, pulling it back, pushing it forward, and locking it is kinda superflous for a short casing. The action is so short, it just doesn't "Feel right" IMO. Hard to explain. For me .22s are fun-guns, as I don't know how to skin/prepare a squirrel. One of the things I like to do is see how quickly I can operate a manual .22 for quick follow-up shots. I've seen videos of people just blazing some targets with a levergun as if it were an automatic, and it looks impressive, and fun. Maybe I'll just look for an inexpensive, used henry .22 for now, and someday get something in 30-30. My buddy has invited me to go hunting someday (In PA), and as of now, I figured for deer, I'd just bring my VZ24 in 8mm mauser. But leverguns just seem like a hell of a lot of fun to shoot. Plus, I like "Wild-West" stuff, which makes me want a 30-30 or something more akin to what cowboys were packin'. But is there anything else I should know about them?

I want to support the made in America, but I hate to support NJ.... so conflicted.... haha. Yeah, so far I'm leaning towards either a used Winchester, or a used Henry.

So, while I'm not exactly looking to get a levergun right now, I'm leaning towards one for my next purchase. That being said, I'm not sure much about which ones are particularly good, if you can find any good deals on used ones, etc. Ideally, I really like the Winchester 94, but I don't think I've seen one for less that $1000, and honestly, for that price, I'd rather just get an M1A. I think I've heard Henrys are good, and I do like their look, plus the price is better. I know they make the best model of the AR7, but know nothing else about Henry's "Quality-cost ratio". I know that with Marlins, it really depends on how old they are, I think the more recent ones are bad, and I've heard some of them have a tendency to ignite primers in the mag tube. Rossi, heard they're cheap and "ok", but that one of the other companies would be better. Also not sure what would be a good round to get it chambered in. I suppose .22 would be fun for a plinker, but I'm also interested in some more potent rounds as well.

Here's a good guide for a new reloader. Pay careful attention. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98I1i8Toj8E&feature=related (No seriously, don't do this lol)

Damn, everyone's buying up all the stock, I ordered 1 brick.... ...No wonder .22 is impossible to get...

It depends on what you own guns for. For self defense/ SHTF or something, fewer calibers is better. If you like shooting a variety of guns at the range for fun, a bunch of different calibers is good. Personally, I believe in a mixed approach. You should have one "primary" caliber, which you have a greater supply of based on your needs/purposes, but if you want to also get into firearms as a hobby, you can get by with a smaller supply of ammo for "fun-guns". Personally, I have guns in 8mm mauser, .45ACP, 5.56/.223, .22LR, and 12GA, so it is kind of a pain because I have less ammo per gun than if I like, had a levergun and revolver chambered in the same round. But I also don't get the time to shoot very much, hell, I probably attend gun shows more often than I go to the range every year, so I just pick up (or load) a little ammo here or there. I'm also on a college student ramen budget, which plays a factor. The decision really depends on why you own guns and stuff. Personally, I'm more of a collector, and someday when I have time/money I'd like to get into some competitions. But I think it's good to have both a defensive firearm, as well as a SHTF gun. I always explain this to people who aren't familiar with firearms. A gun is a tool, and there's really no tool that's perfect for everything. You won't get far using a pair of pliers to drive a nail, just as you can't use a shotgun for long-range shooting. What guns you get are dependent on taste, utility, and budget.

I actually just ordered a Matech from this guy, just received it yesterday, quick shipping. I got a used one though, other than a little dirt it seems great. I just need to find a front sight now.

I got the same email this morning. I bought 50rds of .22 the other day (before Cabelas got these bricks in) as well as 20 rds of .223, and that shipped, but i guess they sold out of the bricks.... ...damn people hoarding...

Glad I got a brick, that'll be all i'll need to teach my girlfriend, glad this was pointed out--even if I shouldn't spend the money right now. But I love CCI minimag, always seemed sufficiently accurate, relatively clean, and cheap.

Meh, paid a little more than i wanted, but w/e. just wish it was yesterday, could have saved on the order i placed yesterday with shipping

couldn't find it. damn, won't be able to get it i guess....

Hmm... $8.95 is what I paid about 2-3 years ago for 100rds of minimag from Bob's Little Sport Shop, I just found some I had forgotten about, and that's what i paid. But I agree, I think I saw the same listing here...

Honestly I wish I knew some web design. My girlfriend does that stuff regularly. I'd probably offer to do it if I could for some places for cheap (or even payment in ammo haha). Of course, I've never run a business, and only have limited experience in handling administrative stuff for property management, so my knowledge isn't enough to know how involved running something like that would be. I simply see the "Well you open up extra revenue streams outside of the limited NJ market", which seems good, but definitely might not be practical.

Think of it this way, whenever we see a post on NJGF about .22LR being in stock, typically it's "Cabelas, .22 cci in stock" (Which HP is as of my posting), or "Midway has .22!" or ".22 Bulk packs at Gander Mountain"! The big dealers who have a longer rapport with suppliers tend to get first pick. Whatever's left over has to be divided up amongst all the LGS in the nation. If a LGS gets it, they may not even get their full order (depending on how it's distributed), if they only get a small amount, they might just sell it online because it's not worth putting out. And if you're gonna do it online, may as well jack the price a little bit like the ammo scalpers, maybe undercut them a little bit since you got it at dealer price. Pretty much, large influx of new gun owners, people like to have .22 to introduce people to shooting (such as myself), etc. etc. I think a big share of the problem is ammo scalpers though. Granted, I only took one microeconomics class, but I did pretty well. It seems scalpers are putting an undue strain on the supply, if people can try and get the word out not to support them, they'll lose incentive to scalp, and things should improve.

Pretty simple solution--spread the word to more gun owners NOT to pay for over-prices .22LR, if the "ammo scalpers" can't quickly flip cheap .22 for inflated prices, they're going to no longer go and get the ammo as early as possible. Plus, it's becoming a problem because it could lead to a permanent increase in the price of .22LR, since the market has shown they're willing to pay more than pre-panic prices. But if enough people stop supporting ammo scalpers, they'll stop buying up all the .22lr, it will be available again, etc. PLUS, I'm hoping some of those assholes who bought ammo they'll never shoot get stuck with it, and end up having to sell it for a stupidly low price to get rid of it later on.

Honestly, a lot of people mock it, but I learned from airsoft what works best in our area. Flecktarn is the best camo in our area, you'd be shocked how effective it is. Problem is that it's pricey. As for rigs, my preferred is a tac-vest with MOLLE webbing, it's just a flat OD green, but it has inner pockets on the inside, an open back area for a camelback. I have a few mag pouches, as well as a riggers belt, though i have some Vietnam-era webgear with M14 mag pouches and a canteen pouch that I could use to carry more stuff. I really wish it wouldn't be "weird" to wear that stuff every day. It would be so convenient to have all those pockets and pouches lol.

To be honest, I hate calling simply because I'm in school during the week, and I figure calling about ammo and stuff might set off some leftist college student, I can usually get away with it on my laptop. Though thinking about it, I have an Arms-and-Ammo sticker on my laptop..

Brick? NAWWW, I've never actually bought a brick. I was going to get a $9 box of 50rds, but thinking about that, it's a pretty crap price once one factors in shipping. Glad you pointed out their crap prices--I just got back from the bar, I'm bad with money when I've had a few haha.

Nothing really turned up. The site is dated 2014, and when i checked one of those sites that states whether a site is trustworthy or not, they basically said it's too new to say for sure... maybe i'll place a small order, try it out... I'll order a $7 box of .22