Kaiser7

Gonna blow your mind guys. What if all this anti-gun stuff is just the government's way of stimulating the economy? After all, part of the problem is that no one is spending money, man what a turn-around now! Not that I really believe it, but I was sitting there thinking about this (jokingly) the other day. Probably pumped more money into the economy than any of the stimulus stuff. Plus firearms are one of the few things America still manufacturers. Anyone have any figures on how many jobs the firearm industry has created in the past few years?

Well, by the time I turn 21, get a PPP, and have the cash, it'll be a while. I like to start looking at what I'm interested in ahead of time so I can do more research, and determine what I REALLY want.

At this point, most of the effort will be in find parts, building it will take no time at all.

Well, keep it up, contact anyone in the fence and urge them not to compromise on ANYTHING. But we sure as hell cant give up here in NJ either, even if nothing passed nationally, it wont matter if NJ gets its way. A beloved member of NJ2AS died today, for those that know what I'm talking about, lets keep up the fight in his memory!

Leaning towards a used 9mm sig 229/226, or 9mm 1911, though with nj mag limits potentially being 5 rounds might not bother if that passes :/

OH, and here, write all these people as well. At some point or another, I believe they will be voting on the other 43 anti-gun bills in NJ http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/abcroster.asp

Good idea, I just called this. *Cough 43 bills Cough*

Bump, we better keep up the pressure....

Well, they've introduced S2497 into the senate, which will decrease lawful magazine capacity from 15 rounds to 5, with no grandfathering. http://legiscan.com/NJ/text/S2497/2012 Call the Senate Majority Office at (609)847 3700 and let them know you oppose this.

I don't know crap about casting bullets. I'd always heard that it was uneconomical, and really easy to screw up. I know there is new production 8mm, and generally components aren't that hard to come-by (Unlike something really odd, like the 6mm ammo for the M1895 Lee Navy) What do you need, and how do you even cast FMJ bullets?

Now, rounds that are still in military use such as .308, 5.56, etc. I know will eventually be around again, but with people buying anything, and everything they can get their hands on, I'm wondering if old military calibers will be picked clean. I saw another thread about the CMP rationing .30-06, which got me wondering. It's obvious that even if there's a lot of this ammo out there, there is a limit to it. And since I shoot 8mm Mauser, I was wondering if old surplus will eventually run out, perhaps soon after this panic subsides. I mean, for the example of 8mm, for the first time ever, I'm seeing Iranian ammo being sold, and being sold with the information that, "Hangfires, and failure to fire is to be expected with this ammunition." Granted, I wanted to switch to non-corrosive eventually anyway, since I don't want to accidentally ruin a piece of history by inadvertently not cleaning well enough, but I wonder what a lot of people who depend on older surplus ammo will do. I mean, M1Garands use a special type of .30-06 don't they? Guess that reloading is becoming a more and more important aspect for any shooter of less common, or more expensive calibers.

Am I the only one annoyed that that is obviously a blunderbuss, or scatter-gun, and not even a musket? Just as a "shoulder-thing that goes up" does not an assault rifle make, a frizzen does not a musket make XD. Oh well, if I'm going to be a tool about this, I may as well make fun of myself. Even though I've seen it done countless times, I've never actually thought to use a pen or anything to prop up a gun, or airsoft gun for photographing. Weirdly enough, I'd get annoyed that I could never get a good picture. Also, is mossberg really putting this out? I know they had a .22LR with a Barrett muzzlebrake, which probably weighed as much as the rest of the rifle... I could see them doing this.

Hey, I'm from Camden County and I've been called "North Jersey". I had a friggan horse-ranch across the street from my high school. I'm Corzine's epitome of a SJ resident, " A happy farmer". Vled, as soon as I'm done school, I want to get a job and move to PA, you want to throw me a housewarming party?

Because it's about capturing market-share. People who would typically thumb their nose at Russian ammo now have incentive to purchase it, either because it's cheaper, or it's the only stuff they can get. No matter your opinion on certain types or manufacturers of ammunition, shortages like this tend to make people more open-minded. Even if it's not as reliable or accurate, it's better to have some ammo than none. After all, even if a certain type of ammo had as high as a 50% failure rate, you're still shooting more ammo than if you have none. (Maybe not the best example, but I think the overall idea is clear). If the people who previously would never consider Russian ammo find that it's not as bad as they anticipated, they may continue using it even after the panic prices subside, particularly if they find that the performance vs. price is satisfactory. After all, if you're just getting some rough practice in, not working towards competition, the cheaper ammo is probably fine. Hell, even people with stockpiles of Federal, Lake City, PMC, etc. would be enticed to buy the Russian stuff. If you have the good ammo for defense, but want to keep your skills sharp, why waste the good stuff? Practice with the steel-cased, somewhat dirtier (Though I believe brownbear is the dirtiest, according to a Luckygunner study) ammo. When it's just practice, you're mainly just working on quick target acquisition, muscle memory, weak-side transitions, reloading, and stuff like that. You'll still be able to take it home, and give it a really good cleaning, or fix any FTFs, or hangfires on the range, where it's not as big a deal.

Not sure yet. Depends on money and time for me.

Already saw the media is being quick to point out "Semi-automatic used in killing of Chris Kyle". Not to mention they're still claiming the rifle was used in Newtown. Why don't people ever critically review the news, instead of just accepting it?

I never knew these existed. Goddamn it, now I want another gun. I guess it'll be 5th in line XD

OH! I've been there before. It's on my way home from when I work down the shore in the Summer. A few times my friend would drive up, meet me there, and we'd shoot clays when I was done work. I have to see what's up with school, and if I have cash.

Yeah, companies like Wolf and Tulammo could probably ease the shortage if THEY started producing at max capacity. In fact, pretty much any ammo producing company in the world should be considering stepping up and filling the demand, at this rate people will probably buy whatever they can get.

They look long enough to see a "D" next to their name.

What do you roll? I need the dies and stuff. Was hoping to get them for Christmas, but I don't think that my mom knew what to get.

Haha, so I guess Biden is Pro-2A? I mean, he argued our case quite well there!

:'( Happens every time. Wanted a K98, settled on a VZ24, a few weeks later a K98 came up for the same price. Never around when I have money, deals galore when I do. Oh yeah, I reload, though I'm running low on 55gr .224 bullets.

This. I can't even describe it's beauty. I wanted a PTR-91 for a while, but couldn't afford the ammo... or the gun. I actually have that wood stock sitting around. I bought it for an airsoft project I never got around to. But I'd slap that wood on in a heartbeat if I had a PTR.

Depending on what's going on in my life then, I might be interested. Not a member of that range though.