Kaiser7

May be a bit soon to speak, but anyone who is a SJ member of NJ2AS knows about how the Rowan Republicans are trying to get a joint venture with NJ2AS to do a First-shoot for college students. I know a lot of people are interested, and it is mutually beneficial. So far being a member of both organizations, it's kind of up to me to set the stuff up, but the outpouring of support from the NJ2AS has been amazing. We're expecting resistance from the Student Government Association, since the current president is the former Democrat club president, but we can probably get this through either way. I think that the best thing the 2A groups can do is to get people out there and shooting, so they no longer buy into the misconceptions regarding firearms, and learn to appreciate it themselves.

I'm very wary about this stuff since I almost got suckered into this "internship" with South-west Industries, selling books staying at a host family. They neglected to mention that I had to front the books upfront, and I was on the hook for whatever I didn't sell. Thank God my friend Rosati had looked it up, otherwise we both would have been S-C-R-E-W-E-D. Not saying this is/isn't, but even though I'm perpetually hurting for cash, I have a grave fear of this type of stuff as a result of my past experience. That's why I stick to my offers of doing odd-jobs, and working my minimum wage retail job.

I suppose I'm sort of 2.0- But with a love of the classics. Actually, I prefer the K98s, Winchester 94s, and revolvers of yester-year to things like the SCAR, but I love pretty much all of them. For those that don't know, I'm a 20 year old college student, and I expected to be a pariah at Rowan when I'd mention to people that I liked guns. Ironically, I don't think I've ever heard of anyone who was out-right anti-gun, that place seems to be occupied by my Parent's generation, or even my friend's parents who are younger. I actually see a general interest in firearms, at least wanting to try them out rather then a straight-out opposition to them which I would expect. Hell, one of the most common dates I take girls out on is to shoot my .22 at Bob's Little Sport Shop, and the girls LOVE IT. They actually hang their targets up in their room, which even I don't do!

Nice! I remember back in August when I first tested the ammo I loaded, I was SCARED I screwed something up. But, I tested a few rounds, and though they sounded a little hot, there was nothing wrong. I know that feeling of nervousness you have when you're going to test your first batch XD.

*Was ist das? W is pronounced as V, and V is pronounced as F in German. (IE- in my phone my dad is "Vater", the German word for Father.)

I didn't see that topic either, but I feel like that is a bad path to go down. God knows that our legislators would love to use this as a banner for a new bill (CLOSE ASSAULT WEAPON LOOP-HOLES!) or some jive, and they'd likely use it as a way to strengthen their plans to ban online sales of stuff.

Exactly my thought.

The dude never did answer why he doesn't want to get his FID, It's fishy to me. Just get your FID, because even though I believe the system is BS as well, you seem to be wanting to go through a lot of hoops to build an AR in a way that doesn't require you to have a NICS check. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was prohibited, or had bad intentions. The laws may be BS, but anyone who truly values their Second Amendment rights won't do anything that could be viewed in a negative way. They would fight for the laws to be changed. I totally have a bad vibe off this guy.

As is the usual, I'm weird as hell with my preference in guns. I'm not a big fan of polymer guns, except the 5-7 which I absolutely adore. I suppose I shouldn't judge glock before I use one, but the grip looks uncomfortable to me. 1911 is up there for me, but I know I'm going to get a revolver at some point anyway, and I imagine they're relatively easy to maintain.

Yeah, I really didn't get detailed responses on why that I was expecting. Plus, the stuff seems fairly tame. Lol, it was a reasonable guess! Actually, knowing the Fallout games like I do, they probably made the in-game plasma weapons resemble, or somehow otherwise reference Terminator, or some other sci-fi movie. They're really cool like that. AH! Someone else who pines for this. I would love to have the surviving US army trial luger, but I'd be too tempted to actually shoot it. I wish that they'd actually make new-production lugers, perhaps some in .45acp, so that the joy of shooting such a sexy gun could be had for the future. I think there was a run by some company, but they were of lousy quality, which is a shame. If I had a CCW, I think I would carry a luger, even if it isn't as practical XD. Reminds me of a podcast I was listening to, this guy on there used to work at a movie theater, and he was robbed one night. The guy knows guns (so he didn't mistake it for a MKII) and said the guy who robbed him was using a Luger. lol.

My excuse is that I joined almost 3 months ago, and they still haven't sent me any of my membership stuff. They have, however, managed to call my house and try to solicit more money from me.

Nah, if I were to get an automatic, I think I'd lean more towards 5.7mm, otherwise I might go with a .45

Actually, a gunsmith near me showed me an original German luger that was captured by an American soldier. I guess they were raiding the palaces of the Nazi muckity-mucks. I forget the name of the specific general (I do remember one of his initials was a W and maybe a T, due to the engraved insignia) But the soldier slashed a Nazi Banner with his bayonet, and behind it he found this general's luger, stashed in a cubby-hole. It had ivory grips, with a Stag engraved into it, scroll-work all up and down the entire thing, the general's initials engraved and set in gold, and it was still wrapped in part of the banner the soldier had torn down. It was perhaps the most marvelous gun I had ever seen. As for the guy who mentioned the 40 watt plasma rifle, I suppose you're a Fallout fan?

Feeling good with rifles at the moment. Well, actually, that's BS, I would love to get a Winchester 94, a Mini-14 (or mini-30), PRI-91 (or w/e the NJ legal civilian G3 is), Or an actual German Mauser, or... well, yeah, you guys get the idea. Actually, if I buy anything before the pistol, It'll likely be a shotgun. I was trying to get one, but I didn't end up having enough time before school started to pick up what I wanted. Actually, in all honesty, I'll probably be waiting a lot longer to get a pistol, since I always forget that nagging little fact that I'm a broke college student! XD

My friend and I were talking today about how people buy cars because they're status symbols, like when people who likely never drive over 65 buy a high-end performance car, or an expensive luxury car. Let's say money, legality, and all that other stuff is no longer an issue. You can own any gun you want, or perhaps you see some really cool gun. What do you think would be the gun that would most likely say, "Yeah, I'm better than you, what of it?" lol. For me, I would have to go with a Sturmgewehr. You never see them, they're old, classic, and cool. I feel like if I whipped one of those out at the range, heads would be turning.

Well, I'm 20, turning 21 in February, and I'm thinking I'd like to get a handgun for myself once I am of-age. Now, I think I already know the answer to this, but I suppose I cannot turn in the paperwork for a PPP before I'm of age, and, due to the amount of time it takes to get them back, just apply, turn 21 while waiting for the paperwork, and then get a handgun when I turn 21, correct? Also, I was leaning towards a FN Five-seveN, or, perhaps, some sort of revolver. I hate glocks, so if anyone has any other recommendations on a good handgun, let me know.

http://news.yahoo.com/ny-police-accidentally-shoot-shop-worker-death-161129771.html Another article on it. Well, I think that we should bring this to Lautenberg and Bloomberg's attention. The criminals had a gun, which they used to rob the store. Where did they get a handgun? I thought that NY had strict gun laws to prevent this? What of the workers? Why couldn't they have a gun with which to defend themselves? Is it the assumption that the police would stop this crime? Well, we can clearly see that this, coupled with the two other incidents that occurred recently, that the NYPD seems to kill innocent bystanders and victims more frequently than they do criminals, so why not allow people to defend themselves?

France has bans on any firearms that shoot military, or former military calibers, IE- .30-06, 8mm, 6.8lebel, etc. I'm not sure the specifics on like, semiautomatics, or whatever, I'm assuming that if they are legal, it's 5 round magazines, etc.

I'll chip in some money.

I personally like the CCI AR primers, and Varget powder. I'm probably wrong, but I think the recipe I use (From Lyman's manual) is something like 20 or 22 grains, and a 55gr hornady FMJ. It works pretty well, They cycled great in my AR, and seemed to work be fairly hot. I like the Varget powder quite a bit, and it wasn't too expensive either.

Because I live in Camden County, not at all far from Camden, and I'm anticipating a lot more crime due to our already lousy police potentially patrolling Camden. As for those that want to destroy Camden and start again, though I joke about that, it would never work. Like roaches fleeing in the light, the Criminals would just end up spreading out and bringing crime with them. Also it's impossible to "remove the good and law abiding people" because in all truth, you do not know who they are, just because someone has a clean record doesn't mean they have not committed crime. Likewise, not every person who is charged is truly guilty.

I love how all the people from North Jersey and stuff think this is the best thing since sliced bread. I hate unions, so I'm giving this a chance, but honestly, you have no idea what it's like living around here. Then again, in my experience, the police here are absolutely useless anyway. They only enforce traffic violations. I've called about repeated break-ins into the cars in our neighborhood 3 times over the past few months, and my neighbors have done the same thing. The arrested the guy, but ended up letting him go, so, the most recent time that our stuff was broken into, we didn't even bother calling the police. They're useless cowards. Hypocritical too, they'll make an illegal turn on red, drive a half mile, see someone make a rolling stop, and pull them over. They'll bust you on Stone Road near us ffor doing 28mph, but take 45 minutes responding to an assault three blocks from the station. Anyway, I know I'm busting on cops, it's true. I've never once had a good experience with a cop actually assisting me. I know there are good police out there, but many, many more just aren't. They don't want to serve and protect, they only care about getting a job with decent pay and a pension. And I am scared about how much crime spill-over is going to occur when these guys are patrolling Camden. Oh- and just another story, our police are so inept that when a person broke into my house (A person whose relation to me will not be stated) I gave them their name, age, where to find them, there were fingerprints on the lock-box they smashed open, they'd left a hammer next to it, I had seen a few times outside the house, I had given the time they would have had to enter the house. Hell, I could have given their social security number, and yet the police refused to accept that they had broken in and stolen my money, despite my lock-box being smashed in with a hammer.

Where is this range? I think it might be close to me haha.

Article was taken down, anyone have a mirror? I'd like to read it.

See, that's a good thing to hear. I mean, I suppose not all police find shooting fun, but I would think that qualification would be more frequent. Shooting isn't as easy as point and pull really, and when you throw in variables such as stress, and other factors of such a situation, things can go pretty bad. It's commendable that you're taking it upon yourself to better your skills, and quite frankly, I believe that if you, or another officer with your commitment to training had been on the scene, there would not have been the collateral damage that occurred. I'm more upset that when the details were still sketchy, that the media was trying to paint it as an issue that it was another lunatic on a killing spree, when it was just some pissed off guy committing a single murder, a "normal" crime, if you will. Once it came out that he had not shot anyone else, only the one victim, they lost interest in the story, and, of course, never apologized for their efforts to try and vilify gun owners yet again.