Underdog

I am sorry for your sadness. The times when I lost my four-legged friend, I as ble to get through it by realizing that there was no more suffering... I have found a little comfort in a poem by Wendell Berry as it touched on a spiritual stillness. The Eager Dog Lies Strange and Still The eager dog lies strange and still who roamed the woods with me; Then while I stood or climbed the hill Or sat under a tree, Awaiting what more time might say, He thrashed in undergrowth, Pursuing what he scared away, Made ruckus for us both. He's dead; I go more quiet now, Stillness added to me By time and sorrow,

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If the Beretta 92 grip works for you, skip the PX4 Storm and get the 92. I don't like the 92 grip size. The PX4 Compact is only slightly smaller than the Storm full-size and you don't have to worry about modifying magazines or sticking with 10-rounders. The Compact comes with 15. So, in the State of NJ the Compact might be better. A CZ 75B should be on that list!

A revolver in .38/.357 is versatile and a good choice. I would look for one with a 3 to 4" barrel in stainless. Since you aren't worried about size, consider a S&W Model 686 in .357. To save a little money, pickup a Ruger GP100. If you have ANY thoughts of being able to carry it at a later point, then I might consider a 5-shot Ruger SP101 as it is more versatile (get the Hogue grip for it though), however, since it is your first gun, there is nothing wrong with either a 686 or GP100 as a full-size revolver. If you are on a budget, look for a 6 or 7 shot Taurus 66. And, if you find a Ruger Six series.... Security, Service, Speed for sale, used, then that might be a nice alternative. It is sized between the GP100 and the SP101. Get a .357, as it can shoot both .38s and .357 instead of a .38 only revolver. For your second choice, you could get a 9mm semi-auto, or something in .22LR to practice with. One direction you could take is to get a .22LR revolver such as a S&W 617, 317, Ruger SP101, or Taurus 990/992. That would enable you to practice with something similar to your main defensive gun if you choose the .357 revolver. I would probably avoid a single-action revolver. If you choose either a revolver or a semi-auto, another option would be for you to get a .22LR semi-auto for versatility and practice... My suggestion would be a Ruger Mark II (used), Ruger Mark III, Ruger 22/45, Ruger 22/45 Lite, Browning Buckmark, or a S&W M&P 22. Out of these, for a first-time gun owner, I would probably choice the Ruger 22/45 Lite for its versatility and weight, etc.. If you don't mind polymer, I'd recommend the 22/45 Lite or the S&W M&P 22. Mags are expensive and hard to find for the Smith, though. Now, if you choose to get a semi-auto over a revolver, I suggest a 9mm. If you don't mind DA/SA, I would get either a Beretta 92 or a CZ 75. The CZ has a slightly smaller grip which might be attractive for a medium-sized hand. Striker-fired, get a S&W M&P since you said you didn't like the Glock, but if you did decide on a Glock you could get a .22LR conversion kit for it, and there are other brands such as SIG that you can get a conversion kit for it. The SIG 229 and 226 are both very nice. I'd recommend the 226. Then you would have a 9mm and a .22LR. Since you don't want a Glock, I would suggest one of the following two... a CZ 75B and a Kadet conversion kit, or a S&W M&P 9. And, another options would be a Springfield Armory XD/XDM. If you are comfortable with the grip size of the Beretta 92/M9 you cannot go wrong. I would suggest looking for a Beretta 92A1 with removable front sight and rail. You might also want to get a 10/22 when purchasing so you only have to go through one background check. I believe you have to add it on at the time of doing the nics check.

Very nice. I have been trying to find a pair of grips like that for my Glock.

I would say a little over 1000 rounds..

So, when it is cleared up, does that mean he will need to put denied on every subsequent application and explain it, etc? When I was getting a loan for my home, apparently there is someone else that is a credit risk with my name. It was quite annoying to clear my name. NJGuy... you aren't a member of the tea party, are you?

Garbage In, Garbage out.... Time to cleanup.

Put a tracking device on that POS husband, and if he is caught anywhere near the school or his family, then arrest him and go from there.

Do you really think that they would get rid of the current arduous system and replace it with that? It would most likely be an addition to the current setup. You would have to renew it every 4 years and still get pistol permits, etc. This is not about making the system any better. It is about further control and harassment. If it doesn't directly do it, there will be a backdoor crisis for the legal and responsible gun owners of this state as we set the "model" for the rest of Amerika.

And, if you forget to update it, or the "instant" 4-year update system is down for the day, then what will you do? If it lapses, your guns would probably be confiscated. There isn't anything that our current politicians are interested and doing that doesn't slap down the American Citizen, New Jersey Citizen, etc. in some fashion.

I would checkout Mint. If I remember, it used to be free.... Edited.... http://www.mint.com

Just the facts that the therapist didn't perceive a problem but was just doing her job when she made the call, and more importantly the fact that the police showed up at 11:00 PM in numbers says it all! This could have been handled completely different by the authorities. What had occurred could actually have set this man off kilter if he had mental health issues. This was an abuse of power by the state and part of the further conditioning and deterioration of our society.

Get plates, snap a photo,etc. and be on your merry way, esp. w/ kids in car.

Yeah, he could give you one for your birthday, and one for Christmas...

Two guns is too limiting... need a dedicated combat-style handgun, modern sporting rifle, and a dedicated .22LR carbine... Glock 23 GEN3 w/ with TruGlo TFO sights, 9mm conversion barrel, .22 conversion slide kit, and plenty of magazines in .22lr, 9mm, and .40S&W, including G22 mags. Might consider getting a SIG .357 barrel as well for large wild animals, but I imagine a .40 would be rather effective. Saiga 7.62x39, but would probably change this to a lightweight AR-15 in 5.56 w/ additional .22LR and 7.62x39 uppers. That would be my two guns. A Ruger 10/22 would be sorely missed, though. And, will "upgrade" to a Ruger 10/22 TD once a Hogue stock is available. 2-gun dream setup would be.... The Glock 23 mentioned above... And one of the new Colt LE901-16S, and an additional .22LR upper for it if there is such a thing. This might be a bit, heavy, though, but extremely versatile.

Progressive adults in Kalifornia are the reason that the undead Zombie craze started. The undead need to be met head on. There should be an NRA gun education and safety class signup at the same time... with free ice cream and maybe a gift certificate for Cabelas or something like that.

If you can't conceal it you are not free down there in Delaware.

Well, it is very difficult in this market finding exactly what you want. If you know what you want, have a good vibe with the gun store, it would be reasonable to put a down payment on a handgun to hold it for you as long as you are OK with the terms. Some are cool with it and some will charge you additional fees if you don't pick it up by a certain date, etc. Again, if you know what you want, you might want to lock it in as long as you (and the shop) can live with the terms of the agreement. That being said, I would not put the full amount down. However, there was a thread in which shops were having trouble floating the amount until the purchase. You might have to put it all down.

Split the difference between a G26 and G19 and get a S&W M&P 9C... I wish they would come out with a S&W M&P 9 Shield w/ a long slide, with a single-stack 9mm and a barrel/slide length of G19 length, about 4". Nice post, Griz.

Agreed, and with a good attitude toward customers coming in, especially in helping them find the EXACT thing they want that you might not necessarily have in stock and you should do well. You might also want to consider offering a service specifically for those buying off of Gunbroker, etc. Are you planning on having a large and costly showroom full of stock, or a few items and relying on ordering for the customer? In particular there really isn't a "Tactical" style shop up in Sussex County, as it s geared more toward hunting and sports, so having more of that kind of stuff might be a good value.

Does a 3D printer count?

The dealers should also take into account whether or not you are a valued and repeat customer when charging you any of the higher than average fees. I would seem that some set their prices so as not to get involved with any online deals. tOh, and with all of the business as of late, why are important customers being gouged on ammo pricing? Are dealers being gouged and passing it along, or are they taking advantage? ....It's a two-way street. One local vendor is reasonable if you buy used and transfer or if you buy something that the dealer cannot readily get and have a transfer done there, but charges you a lot more if it is something that they could stock. And the laws in NJ are in many ways forcing you to be at the mercy of our fine firearms dealers. That being said, if you have to pay $10-15 more for a large ticket item from a dealer than with an online transaction, then loyalty, and the wish to support local should be considered. Any more than that or lack of stock etc. and no. Additionally, keep in mind that there most likely isn't one gun owner in NJ that didn't experience an attitude at some point by the employees of a NJ gun store. That doesn't appear to be a great level of service in some cases. I have yet to find a dealer that I am willing to show express loyalty to, especially with my pocket book. Its more self-serving in that I personally don't want the store to go out of business and present ME less options. And, why buy at the rather high, but typically less than local dealer prices of Dick's when Dick's has shown its true colors toward the firearms owners of this nation. Support your local gougers.

I wish I had a GEN4.

If the business is setup in your state, IE Barnes and Noble, etc. then you would be taxed.