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If the gun is in my hand, I am "on" the gun regardless if I am shooting or manipulating. The trigger finger has one job, to control the bang switch - that includes pressing, releasing, and keeping your booger hook off of it - that is it. Pushing in on a mag release directly behind and below the trigger? No thanks. Curling my finger to press that button under stress does not give me the warm-fuzzies. "But, if you are dropping the mag the gun is empty. You can't have an ND with an empty gun" No, not always (tac load, reload with retention, malfunction clearing...) and I don't like learning two ways to do one thing when I don't have to. Yeah, I know. Walthers and HKs have the paddle releases. Different finger position with a different motion to activate it. Still not my favorite way to do things but not as inherently dangerous (not unsafe, but dangerous - there is a difference) as hitting a traditional mag release with your trigger finger.

The bolt not locking back on an empty mag while firing is typically a symptom of a gas issue. Inertia will allow the bolt catch to release the bolt. That's normal.

I'm with the nope crowd. I will leave my trigger finger for pressing the trigger when I am on the gun. Thanks anyway...

This may help:

First, I am a Glock user. I like Glocks and given a choice, I will choose my Glocks over another pistol anytime. I just have a realistic expectation of what they are - despite advertising voodoo they are not "Perfect", and I know what to expect from the company as far as admission is issues. I also know that despite Glocks standard answer when calling them about a problem gun, that it is very rarely the the shooter or the ammo that is the problem. That being said... This ain't a limp-wristing or a cold ammo issue. This is a common problem with the Gen4 9mm. It is a mechanical problem with the gun, but it is fixable. Installing the correct RSA and correct/upgraded extractor should fix it with no more weak or inconsistent ejection. Glock won't admit it is a problem on their end. They never have and never will. Keep in mind that this is a company that set up an entire machine shop in NYC after NYPD had repeated issues with their guns. They repaired 10s of thousands if guns, running them through an extensive inspection and maintenance program, that for the most part solved the issues - but never once admitted that the issue was Glock's own fault. "Limp wristing" is a bull-shit excuse anyway. Glocks are made as combat guns. You don't always have the luxury of a perfect firing grip in the real world. You could be hurt, wounded, or tired. Your hands could otherwise preoccupied or slippery. The gun should still work. Period. I know my Glocks run fine with weak grips, limp wristing, low powered ammo, etc..... This one should too.

I am going to leave this right here: http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/downloads/kmr.pdf

The proverbial Bees-Knees: https://apextactical.com/store/product-list.php?pg1-cid22.html

You need to think about it more than that. We all do. Losing the "Range mentality" is something every gun owner has to work on. The range is the range. The world is the world. Don't carry that range mentality into the world. That guy in the photo is clearly not at "the range". There is no "cold line" on the real world, no downrange, no safe direction, no RO. Firearms safety applies always, just realize the limitations of range behavior and know when the range ends and real world begins. "ALWAYS Keep the gun unloaded until ready to use" is fine and good on the range, depending on you definition of "ready to use" it can be detrimental to winning fight.

Do you consider a pistol in a holster on your hip, or a rifle slung across your chest/back in "use"?

Absolutely you can

Keep in mind, I look at the G27 and PM9 primarily as BUGs, they rarely ever get carried as a primary. I also don't assign the same criteria to the selection of a BUG as I do primary carry pieces so my answers are from that frame of reference. That being said, which one I prefer depends.... I find myself carrying the G27 more at work and the PM9 more off-duty. At work, when in uniform and carrying a G22 I like the G27 because the G22 mags will work, even though the Kahr is a bit more comfy on the ankle. If I am doing something that precludes ankle carry, then the PM9 goes on the vest or in a pocket. Off duty, I prefer the Kahr on my ankle to the G27. The holster I use at work for the G27 is a "Bootlock" model that laces to your boot, giving a lot of support and adding some padding. Much more comfy than my regular ankle holster. The G27 is heavier, thicker, a little harder to shoot, and has a higher capacity. The PM9 is lighter, thinner, easier to shoot, and has a lower capacity. In spite of all that, if I could only have one it would probably be the Glock, primarily for the mag compatability.

Once you work it 15 times or so correctly, the mag changes become easy-peasy. Not quite as fast as an M4 but not shotgun slow either. And yes, it is a fun toy but I agree. I will take an M4/AR over a P90/PS90 all day.

I want to say 6-8 months depending on use...

Yup. I keep a pair in the truck, the range box, my work bag, and the bug out bags. They are ok, comfy and quiet, but aren't as good as Electrinic ear pro. They also have a useful service life, so don't expect them to last forever.

Please define "use".

I don't use washers with anything but a GI grip. Even then you can get away without it. Use a single drop of BLUE Loctite on the bolt and you should be fine.

Search is your friend: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/49876-electronic-muffs-worthwhile/?fromsearch=1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/49046-msa-sordin-supreme-pro-x/?fromsearch=1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/60097-eyes-and-ears/?fromsearch=1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/58892-what-setting-do-you-have-your-electronic-ear-muffs-at/?fromsearch=1 Also, the higher end sets (Peltor, MSA, Sordin, TCI) designed for a "tactical" environment are generally slim enough that they don't get in the way of the stock when it is in your shoulder unless you are really turtling. The Peltor Com-Tacs even have a cut out for rifle/shotgun stocks

The reason I always mention the "elastic limit" bit when this topic comes up is because you get the WECSOG Armorers telling folks to "stretch the springs to make them stronger" as the answer to every mag related problem. Or even worse, "stretch the spring out if you think you left it loaded for too long. That will make it work like new ." ugh.... You can easily bring a spring past it's elastic limit by stretching it as well as compressing it, and there is no "clashing" to help prevent over-extending a spring. My understanding (after talking with Drake and Rich at Magpul) is that initially there were concerns over longevity with loaded mags. Those concerns are no longer there as they have PMags at their offices that have been loaded since day 1 with no issues. They continue to ship with lids primarily because consumers hate change, and some folks operating in extremely dirty, dusty, muddy, etc... environments may want to use the lid to keep crap out mags that are stored loaded. BLUF: Mags are wear items and should be destroyed and replaced when necessary. Using the lids does nothing to prolong their service life. On the other hand, there is no downside to using them on stored mags either, as long as you remember to pop the lids before putting them into service. Where do you store your mags? In the cat's box? My loaded mags are stored in my safe in the house, in mag pouches with bullets down, or in bags (go bags, work bags, etc..). My empty mags are in stacked in milk crates or rubbermaid crates with their bottoms up, in the basement. None of them get too much dust dirt and whatever in them. If I lived in an extremely dusty area, or was working in far away places, I may rely more on the lids, but I don't so in the trash they go. One less thing for my OCD mind to stress about at the range. What do you use to cover any AK, pistol, etc... mags that are stored?

Here's the issue I have with them building the .380 before the 9mm - if they ever even get to it... They are going to run into the same issues as they did when developing the G17 into the G22. Instead of designing a 9mm from the ground up they are going to force a gun designed for the smaller .380ACP cartridge and jam the internals for a 9mm in it, taking a gun designed for a smaller and less powerful round and making it fire a dimensionally larger and more powerful round. They should have started with the 9mm and worked backwards to the smaller .380ACP. I like Glocks, I carry Glocks almost exclusively but sometimes I don't understand Glock. "Perfection" my rear....

It's a little more complicated than just "fight or flight" - there is also posturing and submit.

I am not really a revo guy, but that is nice! Well done PB.

The ammo will likely be sold back to the distributor for credit on the new ammo and the guns will be sold back as a trade in deal on the new gats. I am not 100% sure the FBI will do that but that's how most agencies do it...

Lol... Operators be operatin'

I blame Ron Cohen and his stupid Isreali inspired ideas. After ruining Kimber he went to Sig and their product has gotten gimmicky and their QC/QA has declined drastically... He is the worst.

djg0770 - Read the following for more: Leadership and Training For the Fight... Paul Howe Equal or Greater Force... Kit Cessna On Killing... Dave Grossman On Combat... Dave Grossman Sharpening The Warrior’s Edge... Bruce Siddle The Gift of Fear... Gavin De Becker And watch Paul Howe's (member of CAG/SFOD-D and present at the Battle of the Black Sea/Blackhawk Down) video from Panteo: "Combat Mindset" I thought it was a good article. I think a lot of people have no idea how fast violence can occur and are not prepared to "turn it on" when necessary. I was amazed myself the first time it happened to me. I have never been caught so flatfooted in my life. Luckily it ended OK and with me on top. I guarantee that won't happen again. Some folks just don't have the "Mean Gene" no matter what they want to believe, and will end up a victim no matter how many hours they train on the mat or the range. Everyone that has a firearm in order to defend themselves or their loved ones should read this article. The primer on Boyd's Loop (OODA) alone should be read by everyone.