High Exposure

You know exactly what I meant. Every minute wasted on dealing with the selfish hard-ass that can't spare a minute to speak with the Police to resolve an issue, simply because he has a right to be a hard-ass is time wasted on other calls, in other neighborhoods, with other residents. Turning a 15 minute welfare check call into a 2 hour standoff over "I know my rights" is retarded. Especially when 9 out of 10 times, the person who claims that "I know my rights" or claims the arrest was unlawful is unequivocally in the wrong. You don't have to assist me. That's fine. Like I said, what needs to be done, will be done. All while following all pertinent laws, regulations, and general orders. It will be up to the courts to determine of what was done was lawful or not. The fact that you think the sole job of the Police is to trample your Constitutional Rights tells me everything I need to know. I most certainly do not want you to run for office and I don't care who you respect or do not. Oh, and I am that good

The military uses radios and convoys when traveling long distances. So do truck drivers, are they militarized? The military has developed new flame resistant clothing to battle the IED threat in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many Fire Depts now use the same gear, are they militarized? The Fire Dept also has rank, a chain of command, and they salute, wait... So do the Boy Scouts. Are they also militarized? Are trauma Doctors in local hospitals (who also have a chain of command) that are using the knowledge, equipment and techniques gained by military Doctors treating all of the wounded they see militarized? Why should we not use TTPs that we know work? Should we throw them out and reinvent the wheel just because the Military uses them too? In fact, the Military had to take a lot of TTPs from SWAT teams when they started getting heavy in CQB with such restrictive rules of engagement in Iraq and their job vecame more of a Police role with capturing insurgents a priority instead of just killing them. So, does that mean that the Military is "SWATerized"? Militarization is not about equipment, TTPs, or uniforms. Police have constitutional use of force guidelines to follow, while the military has rules of engagement. You might think that sounds like splitting hairs, but it is a pretty significant distinction. The Military (Military Police aside) doesn't have the need to conduct Miranda, no authority to arrest, or to go by the 4th or 5th amendment. They follow UCMJ not NJSA 2C or title 39. I do have a problem with units (Narco, gang and robbery units particularly) conducting SWAT operations. They try to do the work without the selection process necessary to ensure the proper mindset for team members, without the continuing training and development, the don't follow the high standards for marksmanship and tactical thinking, they go in without the very specific knowledge of search & seizure and use of force that is very particular to SWAT work, and worst of all, the lack the attention to detail that goes in to planning and executing these types of jobs. When these guys get involved, thats when you have the wrong house hit. That's when you have and unprofessional job with a bad use of force outcome. I wouldn't try to do an undercover buy, or conduct a stakeout, or wear a wire. That is out of my league and that skillset is not in my wheelhouse. If I tried to do it, I can guarantee that would make a bungling mess of it and leave the other guys holding a leaky bag, so why are they trying to do mine? What the real SWAT guys look like shouldn't matter as long as they get the job done right. The tools of the trade are just that, tools - an M4 works for a soldier and a Cop alike right, so what is the big deal? That is the same argument the anti's use - "It looks scary. It looks like a military gun. They shouldn't have it." Well, which is it? Is it the guns that are bad because of how they look, or is it the way they are used? If we carried Mini-14s would that be better? How many different ways are there to make effective body armor? How different can you make it? Should we change the shape of the helmets? Should we wear Hot Pink armor?

The prior recording is a setting, I can go back anywhere from 15 minutes to 10 seconds. Our SOP is 2 minutes. I can also define an "event" to record at ay time during the previos 8 hours of my shift that the camera is on, whether it was recording or not.

It is not a Strawman argument at all. Maybe you are not, but that author and some of the posters here, are calling for the end of SWAT teams. Also, you realize that most of the instances where what you are talking about occurs, including the very first one mentioned by the author in his hit-piece, was not a SWAT team right?

We don't have Quotas, I can write as many tickets as I want. My DVR goes back and starts recording from 2 minutes before I activated my overhead lights.

Alright men, we have a hostage situation. Six people already dead and unknown hostages holed up with a gunman in an occupied apartment building. We had to get rid of the SWAT team and all of the appropriate training and equipment that would make this job safer for them and us because the residents said we were too scary, so.... Let's send one of the traffic guys, the SRO, the DARE officer, and the Community Affairs Liaison to handle this. You guys remember the 6 hours of initial training you got in the Academy on room clearing right? Good. Oh, while we are at it, all you need are your revolvers and, let's leave the body armor behind, OK boys. Don't want to scare the residents while we save them. Good Luck! :rolleyeyes: How do you think the below story would have ended if the above was the real callout? http://news.sky.com/story/1121092/hostage-deaths-moment-police-killed-gunman - Video of the gunfight at the link Like it or not, the training and equipment that has been found to be effective by the Military in the current war are just that. Effective. They work. They save lives - hostage and Cop lives, neighboring resident lives, and sometimes, the bad guy's life as well. Equipment, TTPs, and Uniforms do not mean "Militarization".

What's next, correcting my spelling? Why don't you participate in the discussion instead of sniping comments from the periphery that have no substance and are not germane to the discussion at hand. Your two posts add absolutely jack and s#it to the discussion. It is actually a sardonic statement there Alanis. There is no irony involved, but hey, you know, whatevs (oh, and this part would be hypocritical, not ironic either, in case you were wondering)

you know me so well! I reeeeaaaaalllly wanted to be the first guy in NJ to tase someone! Actually it worked great. Suicidal person with a knife. He was sawing away at his own neck, there was blood everywhere. Without the Taser we would have been limited to the following options: We could have shot him, we could have wrestled with a suicidal guy with a knife (you ever wrestle with someone covered in blood? Blood is slippery, makes it hard to control extremities), or we could have watched him literally saw his head off his neck. Luckily we had a Taser, so instead he got a 5 second taste of "Edison's Medicine" where he locked up like a 2x4. We were then able to secure him, wrap him up in a blanket, and get him transported to RWJUH where he got the help he needed and no one gut hurt. Easy day!

OC is a cake walk. That Taser is no joke

Incorrect. New Jersey Atty. Gen. authorized use of Tasers in 2010. The initial policy was so restrictive no agency started carrying them. In December 2011 the policy was relaxed to make it feasible and the New Jersey State Police held a week long training at their Academy in Sea Girt given by Taser Inc. for 70 sworn Law-Enforcement Officers to be trained as trainers in the use of the Taser. A law was written to exempt LEOs from the probibition of the possession of the device while on duty (with some special hoops that have to be jumped through) and 2 devices were authorized to be carried with the caveat that they had to have cameras on them, and the Use of Force Policy was amended to include a new level of force - Enhanced Mechanical - which includes only the Taser. I was lucky enough to be one of those instructors. Since that time I've trained over 150 officers in Middlesex County in the use and deployment of the Taser X2, and have carried one on duty in the municipality I work in. There have been at least three incidents in the state where the devices have been used successfully. I was present for one of them, But my training partner was the one who actually deployed the device.

How is that an awful point? It is completely valid as it relates to the discussion. If he acted like that in private I have no issue, and I wouldn't know about it. However, when he posts it publicly, under the color of his Office, he is being an a$$. The point is that people are defending this public display of buffoonery. It's Bonesinium trying to be be clever

I don't quite get what you're saying here. Are you saying that neighbors and police should "mind their own business" while someone is being victimized, or am I misunderstanding you?

Ah, gotcha!

This first. Otherwise, for routine traffic violations, the guys that hire a lawyer for $250 an hour and the folks that come in without a lawyer get the same deal every time.

No way Shawn, that guy is dead serious in that video. He is the same in his other vids too. That guy couldn't gunfight his way put of a wet paper bag. But you keep making excuses for him, it's OK

Talk to me Goose! This is the first I have heard of issues with a boresnake. I use one regularly and have never heard of a down side to them, either getting stuck or wearing a barrel. Have I been missing some issues with them? Thanks

All reports of possible DVs have to be investigated. Only certain "relationships" fall under DV. Plaintiff and victim must live together or have lived together in the past, have a dating relationship, or have a child together. They must both be adults or emancipated juveniles. Then, there are only certain crimes that are considered DV Offenses. For example - simple assault, ag assault, kidnapping, murder, stalking, arson, harassment, violation of a restraining order, etc... You have to first determine that the relationship is eligible, then that a DV specific crime took place. You then have to determine who the victim and actor are, this is often very hard. Finally, if certain things are present, such as - signs of violence, victim states they are fearful for their safety, etc... An arrest is mandatory and changes filed by Police if the victim is reluctant. Also in NJ, only people involved in a DV are eligible for a criminal restraining order. If the order is violated it is also a mandatory arrest, no bail, and the defendant sits in the hoosegow until they see a Judge. Refer to NJSA 2C:25 for more info. And yes, It is very frustrating because there are a lot of folks out there that know the system and use it to their advantage, making false claims of fear or injury just to "win" a fight or piss off their boy/girl friend. Booze and mishandling of DV calls are the most common ways Cops get jammed up. It is a complicated call type and what I wrote above merely glosses over most of it. Fortunately we are mandated to train on this topic every year and I make my people review the guidelines monthly, along with search and seizure, use of force, and missing persons reporting requirements. Incorrect. There are mandatory arrest requirements for certain instances.

In NJ, as long as the door was taken down in good faith - it was reasonable to believe (from a Cop's Persepctive) that the door had to be damaged to achieve a legitimate law enforcement purpose at that instant in time - it's the resident's responsibility to repair the door. Even if the investigation reveals there was no wrongdoing at that location.

Isn't this the guy that shot himself in the hand in a bar fight in another town (not where he worked) while he was there as a patron like 2 or 3 years ago?

They are Cops, not Social Workers (although it fells like that is mostly what I do). They are supposed to take control. It had already escalated to the point where the Officers had to force entry because the resident was not complying and the responding Cops feared for the safety of some of the occupants. They really weren't that bad under the circumstances, they were under control, they were forceful but also polite. They made it known that they were telling and not asking for compliance, then they gained compliance in the least injurious anger they had available. There are many documented instances of Police being hurt or killed by the "victim" in a DV. Once they realize their paycheck/protection is leaving or getting arrested, they fight. You must first control the scene, then you can investigate. This keeps everyone safe, especially the residents.

Exactly, the Cops were calm but forceful. They continued to try to talk it through. They gave opportunities for this whole thing to go another way. The residents/cameraman made that situation what it was. The Cops had no need of a warrant to enter as they had proof of obstruction, literally witnessing the crime, and RAS that a DV occurred. Although in NJ that scenario would have been a no-go for the use of a Taser. A little cooperation and consideration of your community, even if you have no respect for the Police, and this would have likely been a non-event. Or you can be like Mipa and do everything the hard way. Dealers choice, either way, it is getting done. You can choose whether the price is 2 minutes of your time or you can make an unsafe condition for all involved, give yourself and your community bigger headaches than necessary, and have to hire a lawyer. As far as 911 calls, in most counties (may even be the whole state, but I know Middlesex County has this Policy) Police have to respond for a face to face with residents to any 911 call regardless of if it is a misdial, accidental call/butt dial, non-emergency, or hang-up.

After a face to face with all parties involved where the stories match and there are no other signs of DV. In short, when the investigation is complete. Even if the victim/person being abused doesn't want to press charges, the Police can and in some cases MUST make an arrest and press charges on the victim's behalf. If a LEO is involved as an alleged actor/defendant an arrest and criminal charges are mandatory. For all cases, any arrests or charges can be amended or dismissed at the discretion of the Judge during a trial/hearing. This is after taking the factual basis on the record and listening to the testimony of the victim. I have had a woman come to HQ 6 months after I arrested her husband. She thanked me for being thorough and seeing through the lies she was telling me because she was afraid of her husband. She said it gave her the strength and opportunity to get away from him for good. I have broken in a door and stopped a guy in the process of beating his wife with a frying pan as she was telling me she was OK. I have pretended to leave and waited outside a residence for someone to leave after not getting an answer but seeing the resident's car in the driveway and the house lights on. Finally a kid (20 yo male) ran out of the house, his face was all beat up, his hands were taped together with clear packing tape. His roommate was plastered and got pissed the victim ate his last Hot Pocket and wouldn't let him come to the door. The roomate ended up tying the victim up and threw him in his bedroom to keep him from answering the door or leaving after the fight. That kid needed some serious medical attention. I had another where a man said everything was fine while sitting in a chair in his kitchen. He had actually been stabbed 3 times in the back with a kitchen knife while he was sleeping but was embarrassed to have the Cops come and stop his girlfriend from "beating him up". Medics arrived and said he had about 20 minutes before it went from a Medic call to a Coroner call. These were all called in by concerned neighbors/residents and all occurred in the last year. There are dozens more incidents like this but I think you get the picture. I am glad for you that you still think like this. It means your life has never been tainted by the stink of abuse of domestic violence. Unfortunately, abused spouses and children rarely have the strength or courage to act as you described. DV is a powerful phenomenon that destroys not just families but individuals. It breaks them down to their basest level of fear and supplication. If they didn't have the courage to leave after the first incident, they will never have it after the 5th, 10th, or 100th incident. Edited to respond to JackDaWack's edited post.

I am sorry, but that's not stand up behavior. That is an example of grandstanding, of showing off, of immaturity. If someone reacted that way to something they didn't like in a restaurant, at an amusement park, or in your home I doubt you would tolerate it.

That's not fair either. Most people call the Police because they truly believe something bad is happening and the Police should be called. They don't know the people, their background, or the whole story. They see events unfolding through the lens of their own experience and frame of reference and they don't have the benefit of investigating, nor is that their job. If they thought they could get in trouble because they misintrepreted what they saw or heard, no one would call. There is already law in plase that allows those that call the Police maliciously to be charged. The problem is proving it.

I watched some of his "training" videos. If he is training his "Army" then whomever they are going to be fighting has nothing to worry about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3iT1ii1NFM&feature=youtube_gdata_player