Twospot

Wow that is insane. I was insane for paying retail price of $399. I couldn't imagine paying a penny above. I didn't like paying that but it is hard to find so I said screw it. I thought the white box was cheesy as well.

This is what I would love to do but you are probably a diamond in the rough. First the person would need to be open to having their mind changed. If they are not open to that then there is no use.

Glad there were some good pro comments. He'll never respond because he drinks the kool aid

What's a good price on it?

John Lott

I think you are misinterpreting what I meant because I wrote it like an illiterate would. I agree with that and you have to abide by the local ordinance. I was taking into account there was no ordinance where the OP is going. Then there should be no reason this wouldn't be legal.

That was kind of my point LOL. Its a sad state of affairs. I just started reading this book More Guns Less Crime and man what a nice read so far. Just fact after fact after fact. Probably a staple read here, but if you haven't, definitely check it out.

And here is this guy. $1000 fine and 10 hours community service. Still a decent deal based on the law but why did the woman only get a $200 fine and nothing else? http://www.njherald.com/story/17201229/no-jail-deal-for-ind-man-in-nyc-gun-check-case

And now the media starts with this being a reason we shouldn't carry guns: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-20/trayvon-martin-shooting-shows-perils-of-lax-u-s-gun-laws.html

EXACTLY!!

Thank you all for the resources. It has been somewhat of a tough road with families that do not support us in the least with this. Never the less we forge ahead

Like the Italian Job, I'll just buy one each of what you all posted, because I don't know any better lol

Thanks for the responses. Anti gunners won't even believe the numbers

It's sad that we have to have these discussions. I understand to local ordinances, but if you have authorization from the owner that should be enough, however you have to contend with LEOs interpretation and the courts interpretation.

When you apply for additional permits after you have your FID are the reference letters still required?

I am so annoyed. My wife wants to get her FID so she asked a friend today to be a reference. Her friend starts to berate her as to how awful guns are and how kids get killed by teir parents guns, blah blah blah. She was bitching about the NRA and how their existence is wrong. Needless to say she will not be a reference. We have more to ask. My wife doesn't know much about this stuff so she really couldn't trounce her friend. If I was there I could have at least battled some what but I have a lot to learn myself. It just burns me up that people are so quick to toss aside a fundamental right just because they don't like it. Wait until NJ bans library books with an exemption of reading only in your house and transporting to and from the library locked in the trunk. Will they realize it then?

Thanks for the explaination!

Thanks Dave. I appreciate the info. I swing left, kick lefty but throw and write right handed. It's crazy!

If that's the case then this Zimmerman is done. It ofcourse adds fuel to the anti-gunners fire as well.

140 pounds means nothing. Look at some of these lightweight UFC fighters. Most of those kids could destroy a good portion of males out on the street regardless of aga and size. Zimmerman sounds like an a** but no one knows what happened with the fight. He obviously instigated it. However if the kid was pummeling him, and he was trying to get away and the kid kept going, sounds like in FL he was justified.

Chris, How long did it take you to get comfortable shooting righty?

That's pretty interesting. Makes sense to avoid the distraction

Sorry for my ignorance but what is the benefit of the electronic ear protection?

When you shoot in competition do you see many that use eye patches to help with aiming? I seem to be having issues with aiming with both eyes open. At first I thought I was cross eye dominant. Then I read how to test for it. It said you should point at something small about 15 ft away then close your left eye and if your finger was still pointing at it your right eye was dominant. If it seemed to shift and not pointing at the object you are left eye dominant. I don't believe this because I can make this occur with either eye. I shoot right handed but definitely seem more comfortable aiming with my left eye. This poses a problem when I get into shooting rifles. I know I am not the only one out there that is cross eye dominant, but do you think it would be better to patch the left eye and aim with the right? I guess part of me also doesnt want to get laughed at too much walking around with a patch at the range or a competition when I start doing that.

I paid over $400 for a no point Unsafe Driving violation when I got into an accident. This chick gets a felony and pays $200. Obviously I feel she SHOULD be able to carry her gun, but this just shows how f'd up the system is.