Malice4you

I am wondering exactly how many on that list have held a gun in a movie and were paid for it, how much they were paid, and if added up, if their pay tops what NRA lobbying was. And exactly how many of them are prepared to return that "dirty" money. Not donate it. Return it. I grow tired of people telling me what legal items I can't have because they don't like them. Even more so when they either profit from using those items in movies/TV, and/or when they themselves are protected by armed guards.

When did it become OK in society to wear ripped jeans or ripped leggings or a t-shirt to a wake? Have I suddenly - at 35 - become an 'old' person? I went to a wake for a friend on Wednesday, and the things some people showed up in made me disappointed. I felt underdressed in dress pants and a dress shirt, instead of a full suit, but apparently some people felt it was appropriate to wear what might be appropriate to shop at Walmart to his wake. Not just jeans, but ripped jeans. Not just leggings/yoga pants, but ripped ones. Not just Tshirts, but some were stained/rumpled, like they were taken right off the laundry pile. I know *he* can't complain, but really? Show some respect for the guy when you come to pay your respects...

If it were a coin, it would be worth more. I would agree that if they screwed up, the least they could do is offer you the paperwork for free or a "reasonable" amount. I wouldn't be particularly concerned personally. Maybe you'll never sell it, maybe the next buyer won't care, maybe they'll like the story, who knows. Unless having a mismarked gun is illegal under federal law (it isn't defaced and still has all the markings, just the wrong ones), I would not give it any more thought.

Sorry to have missed talking to you. That one picture has at least 7 members that I am aware of in it.

middle finger Jersey salute button!

@gleninjersey I agree with you there. What I was saying is that to an outsider or politician, on the state or national level, it looks like we have tiny numbers who are willing to do something. Tiny numbers means they do not have to worry about us. Tiny numbers are not a threat to them. Turning people needs to be a huge push. Every one of us needs to try to bring new shooters out to introduce them to shooting. Answer their questions honestly. Start them small (don't hand a newbie a 12ga or a .44mag for their first ever shot). Ask them about something they have a lot of knowledge about, then ask how well the media accurately covers that subject, and then explain how the media covers guns. Don't get too much into politics or subjects they might get defensive about and shut down. Make it a fun day. Take pictures for facebook for em. That grin we all got after our first shot-that is how you turn people. We need numbers. There are 300+ million guns in this country. 295 million of em belong to bluelinefish, but that's beside the point. We need to show that we are not some small fringe group, but a large portion of the population, and that our ranks are growing. If the hundreds of us who are active on this forum bring 1 newbie out, and 50 of those people get their FID, and 5 of those people become serious about our rights, that is hundreds more educated people, bigger numbers for gun owners, and more fighters for our rights.

Of course. And their 2a rights are probably pretty secure (or they think so). But if those numbers are true, I don't know if yesterday was a help at all, or may have hurt our cause. If nationwide fewer than 10k showed up in their own states, that does send a message. It says we are unorganized and that we are a tiny percent who will do something for our rights.

Thanks, yep, Dave. Or Malice works, I am used to being called that in person too. If anyone wants a specific picture or two in high res (11mp), pm me with that picture name and i'll upload it.

This was still sitting on my server. I believe I made it for attaching to tinfoil hats during a particularly crazy period of history here. I'll have to find some more later...

Sorry anyone on a phone. And anyone else, for that matter.

Wow...so we were one of the BIG gatherings?

First I heard of today was after the last rally in Trenton on the 26th. Maybe it was mentioned places I did not see it, but that proves it failed to reach the intended audience. I am thankful for everyone who helped organize the event and for the speakers. I am sure there was a huge amount that I do not know about behind the scenes. But today felt like it was thrown together last minute, and the chaos was held at bay *just* long enough for it to pull together ok. I feel like the near total lack of organization was a huge turn off for many people here, which severely hurt the turnout potential for the event. I kept questioning if there would even be anyone there, or if it would only hurt our cause. I believe there was a reporter, he asked if I was AP, but I only saw a few cameras that might have been media. Maybe its a good thing, as this time would say "dozens show up to support gun rights". So yeah, pretty disappointed, though not surprised. The 9 months of planning post above? That. Exactly that. But wait a few months to start cause I don't much wanna go freeze my ass off again like the 26th, and 9 months is January. Not meaning to bash anyone btw, because if I were in charge it woulda been me and maybe 3 other people twiddling our thumbs in Trenton instead of 500.

Fairly low turnout. Actually, very disappointing turnout. My guess was around 4-500. Met silence dogood at Subway, where I was quite late and still the 2nd forum member there. We walked over to war memorial about 30 minutes before scheduled start, maybe 150-200 people were there, with more trickling in. Some good speakers, though I did not remember most names, there were a few familiar faces from last month. Was nice to meet everyone and put faces to the screen names. If I missed you, I'm sorry. I was in a black shirt with my logo on it, malice hat, blue backpack, and big camera moving around the crowd. (See Ray Ray's pictures above, I managed to get in 2 of them) I need some down time before I work on the pics, will try to have em up by tomorrow. Scorpio, hope all is well and ya feel better quickly. Thanks everyone who made it out.

I think I could spend an entire vacation in that town and not be disappointed at all...except maybe about the language barrier...

I'm down for lunch if it is happening.

Well, I didn't do a lot of research (read: any) into his sources, but very well written and a lot of statistical data presented from seemingly reputable sources. I read all the other articles he wrote on the subject, and I enjoyed them thoroughly. May take a while to get through them all, but IMO well worth the time spent. If you aren't a member, you may get paywalled - just remember to use private tabs for opening new windows Thank you for posting.

WE MUST CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES* ALLOWING PEOPLE TO OBTAIN THESE WEAPONS OF WAR! Would you believe that the above pictured item is available to anyone, even children, without any restrictions on ownership? Would you believe me if I told you that you can likely buy this within 5 miles of your home or job or your child's school, on a street corner or local strip mall? Or that it is even available over the internet, and will be shipped directly to your home, with no background checks? Millions have been shot by these dangerous objects, yet NO ONE does ANYTHING! TAKE A STAND! Write your legislators! Attend the Million Band March in DC! Cut any you have in your home in half, or turn them in to police! Preach on facebook for common sense rubber band control! *Perhaps with some kind of band, made out of a stretchable material like rubber.

Ooooh, new shirt idea: I got banned by Mrs. Peel That instantly would identify you as a member here, without the worry of harassment from anti-2A members of society. And if I keep pushing, I'm going to need one of these shirts myself.

Was your mouse hovering over the ban button as you read my post, waiting for the "S" word? Gotta keep you on your toes, give you something to do between banning people for clothing related or non-Taylor Ham infractions. And to be fair, the desktop version does give warning right under my name of what I am. And now I have to go watch the Sting again.

If only there was some kind of thing, made out of some kind of printable material, which could be put over one's body, to advertise one is a member of this forum. ... ... I've got it! We all need sandwich boards saying we are NJGF members! Or we all need to print up shirts... ...with our own avatars (and name) on the front and back.

Good to see you are taking a stand against human trafficking. Unless you meant taking orders for a girl's NJGF shirt, in which case, take the orders and a deposit, just give an ETA of June 2119.

And had YOU not posted it in the first place, I wouldn't have read about it OR seen the super-sized picture...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaNDy2sXkAAxNYG.jpg:large

1. Unless in lease, buy guns. If in lease, still buy guns. Then buy more. 2. Pay rent with checks with pro-2A images as background. 3. Offer to host 2A/NRA BBQ or other events at his place. 4. ...? 5. Profit!* *profit may be from no longer needing to pay rent after being evicted.

Until NJ/Cali goes all Deerfield, Illinois on those registered guns when the next "common sense" law is proposed "for the children" because "weapons of war" etc etc etc.