Malice4you

I like that idea. I'd like to put names and faces to names. Would enjoy meeting and talking to more members from here, where I can actually hear (gun ranges/shotgun shoots do tend to make for difficult conversations if wearing foam plugs like I usually do). I will say sorry in advance for the likely case of forgetting names. I am absolutely horrible with names. It isn't just you, it is just about every person I've met, ever, I think. So, sorry in advance, please forgive me. Feel free to call me Malice if it makes things at all easier, people have for more than half my life. Any suggestions on a place thats not too far outta the way?

I saw, just have been out of things for 17 years (wow), and i still have my old license from 2001 with an actual stamp you had to lick (i think), on real paper, filled out by hand. This new fangled method is nice, just different, thats all. I waited on line almost as long as it took getting the licenses, if they did them the old way, I'd have been there an hour.

Radios can be funny things. Having used UHF and VHF on about 120 acres, with terrain that varies by about 50ft in elevation but is 90% typical NJ forest, there have been times where the radios have struggled to reach 500 feet, and other days when the radios work from extreme edges of the property. (All on freshly charged batteries on warm days). Any FRS/GMRS radio that claims 15+ mile range is bullshit. Maybe if you are both on top of 2 mountains and zero obstructions or radio noise, maybe, if the sun and moon and clouds and a dozen other things align just so. Otherwise, unless you are in wide open areas with a lake or large field between you should you realistically expect aby significant distance. A cheap set of Motorolas or Midlands or Baofengs are cheap enough to try, but don't expect a lot...

Wanted to say thanks again to everyone. Not that anyone cares, but sucessfully completed the test today and went out and got not only my hunting license, but a fishing license as well (first I've had one since 2001). Trout stamp isn't much of a stamp anymore...

Any word? Did this conference happen, and any other updates I may have missed?

Just got a quote from Tommy Tree this week. Have used them in the past, and been happy.

Maybe those village trustees (wtf?) are tired of their jobs and wanted to be forcibly removed from society, cause that is one sure-fire way to have that happen.

My "offer" was to take currently legal guns (and mags) off of owner's hands and have owners pay me for the privilege. If/when the newest NJ AWB passes, we are all screwed, but until then, our (NJ compliant) ARs and other future "assault weapons" are still legal today. Not that I was actually serious, but had I actally obtained anything, I likely would have kept any firearms obtained for myself and stored them out of state if/when the AWB passed. It was foolproof! If only anyone had taken me up on it. And for reference, no, I am not an FFL, and I cannot handle, accept, buy, or sell non-compliant firearms.

I've said before that I don't like the look of many stippling jobs, but I gotta say I'm kinda digging this look. Might I ask what that ran ya? And I still want a Glock 20 G4, despite the fact that I can hardly feed all the calibers I own now without adding yet another to the mix...

As a service to NJGF members, I am offering a program which will allow you to comply with certain currently non-existent laws. I will take your 11-15 round magazines off your hands so you don't have to worry about compliance. For this service, I will have to charge you a small fee of $1 per magazine, or $20 flat fee if you would like to dispose of a large box of 11-15 round magazines. I will also accept firearms, again for a small fee from you of $25 per item (and COEs filled out). If I must travel over 25 miles to pick up your item, additional fees may also apply. I may opt to not charge any extra fees for certain collections on a case by case basis. Rate may vary if certain legislation passes. Please take advantage of my offer early and often, as the peace of mind of being compliant with laws that aren't even laws yet is priceless!

@ScrewballDunno bout this location, but someone had a dog with em last Monday. Can't imagine it would be an issue. Not like you are going inside with a dog. Hell, might get more attention from people passing by if your dog has a sign. I am planning on attending, barring unforseen circumstances preventing me from going.

Leatherman Wave (first generation with individual screwdrivers, not the bit type) has been on my belt for 15+? years. Prior to that, I had a Leatherman SuperTool 200, which was lost or stolen. In addition, I typically carry two Spydercos, usually one serrated edge and one plain edge. I have a pool of about 30 to pick from. If I were getting another multitool, Leatherman Charge TTi would likely be my first choice. I dunno that I like what the current Wave version is like.

But the police should be the only ones with guns because they are so well trained! @Mrs. Peel I think at least few of those are multi-year waiting list for new members, the one in Hackettstown would be great for me. I shoulda gotten myself on the list years ago, I might be a member now if i had.

I don't get why they can't make police use the special purpose range and not screw paying members - same for some other events that close down certain ranges. I have a friend who can only go weekends, usually only Sundays, and with events closing all ranges down some Sundays, he realistically has fewer than 40-50 days he could actually go and use his membership, before family obligations take that down to single digits. I always bring something else to shoot in case a range is closed or mobbed. Usually, the rimfire range is fairly empty, so a .22 rifle will keep me occupied until something else opens up. Once I get my hunting license, Clinton is on the way back if I couldn't use EFGA (again, always pack a .22). I think a PA WMA use permit is $30, might be worth researching (including mag loading restrictions!). I looked into one when looking for 200+yd ranges in PA. I may still go for one since EFGA moves at a slower-than-glacial pace and doesn't tell members anything about the 250yd range, and I really want to do some more challenging shooting than 100yd, even if all I wanna shoot are .22 and .223.

I have not tried it myself. However, almost everything I'm reading about it is meh to bad so far. While it may have the speed, it apparently has terrible accuracy with lots of fliers. I hear far better things about the A17 load and the 17gr CCI TNT HP load. Not sure how the A17 would do for hunting, but the TNT might be a better choice if your rifle likes it. Maybe you'll get lucky, but I'd test some additional stuff before committing to a bunch of it.

Have heard reports of RSOs at Range 14 doing something along those lines, but never have been personally. Someone once told a story (joke?) of acting all scared and asking the RSO to check the mags don't hold over 15 rounds. Its a brilliant way to get someone else to load your mags for you.

I too would like to thank everyone involved for their efforts, as well as everyone who showed up. I am glad to have made it out. I am sure I walked past many of you multiple times with cameras in hand. However, I figured wearing anything with my screen name or avatar would be counterproductive, so I opted for the only gun-branded hat I own - a Kriss hat and blue clothes. I would have liked to meet up and put names to faces. Usually, forum meetups are a little difficult when screen names differ from real names. "Hi, BHR1724!" never seems quite right, does it? When someone has been BHR1724 for 5 years, only to find out they are really Oscar in real life, you have to fight 5 years of confitioning. For what its worth, I have been called Malice more than half my life, so I am fine remaining Malice. And I will often wear a shirt with the logo from my avatar to get togethers, and/or a hat that says Malice. I am terrible with names, so sorry in advance at the next rally or shotgun shoot. Hopefully get to meet more of you all at the next one.

Congrats! As a former mod elsewhere, an "I'm so sorry" may also be appropriate. I hope you use your new powers for good, i.e. banning lots of pork roll believers. Seeing how I don't have to deal with it here... Someone offended me, I posted something in the wrong spot, i want my tshirt, why cant i post just a random link, why are mods all big meanies who just move everything to 1a, etc etc etc Have fun

I was told it has been on News 12 NJ, so it should be in their rotation once an hour. No idea if or how it is skewed. Edit: Will be on at 10PM apparently. They've shown a few brief clips so far that I've seen.

Well, we got fucked. And got some STDs in the process...

Part of the reason I brought the cameras (and ultrawides/fisheye), because I knew there would be some bullshit in the news.

Well, I ran late this AM. My ETA started as 9:10AM, and of course kept adding up. Think I got to the area around 9:35. Seven different lots were full. A turn down a side road took me across the Delaware, where there was ample parking right next to the river. Walked across the bridge, found the rally (could hear it across the river). Think I finally got there around 10-10:15. First impression was I wish there were more people here. Don't get me wrong, was a decent turnout, far larger than any others I saw today (cop said something like 8 going on today), but still woulda liked seeing more there. I was a photographer, carrying 2 camera bodies, blue backpack, Kriss hat. Didn't see too many 'out there' "gun nuts" that make us look bad, people had some good signs, people by the road got some support from passing drivers. Speakers I heard were good, I dunno how many I missed. I don't know too many names of everyone who spoke. I'll try to get a few pics up shortly, need to sort and edit first.

Can't do it under budget for what I'd want. Well, maybe I can because I am only guessing at prices. 3500x M4 @ $1300, 200x SAW @ $5000, 300x SPR @ $4000, 250x MP5 @ $1250, 250x Benelli Supernova @ $500, 30x Accuracy International AWM @ $8000; 5000x Glock 17/19/22/23 @ $450 each, and 5000x $75 per knife. Currently $52500 over budget with 4530 soldiers with long arms, but all 5000 with sidearms and knives So if I went somewhat more east...3800x AK47 @ $450, 800x PKM [or similar] @ $5000, 250x SVD @ $4500, 100x Supernova @ $500, and 50x Accuracy International AWM @ $8000; 5000x Glock 17/19/22/23 @ $450 each, and 5000x $75 per knife. Everyone is armed according to rules and I have $90,000 left, enough to buy one single hammer. Maybe I need to get rid of the mp5 and shotgun and give the rest of those guys $20 mosins.

I dunno how the Mrs. feels about rimfires. I seem to be in the minority here when it comes to loving precision rimfires. If my budget allowed, there would be at least an Anschutz 64 sitting in my safe now, but alas, my budget is more Marlin on sale than Anschutz. That said, a decent Marlin or Savage or CZ .22, decked out with decent glass and a few small upgrades are fun little guns and get you into 100+ yard shooting starting under $500. I run Lapua Center-X, which is expensive stuff ($13/50) *when compared to .22s* but not when compared to centerfire (Federal gold medal match .223 69gr $~21/20 last i got em). Maybe not for everyone, but I have as much fun with rimfires as I do anything else, and I can afford to shoot a lot more. And it could actually be her gun. Just a thought.