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There HAS to be more . You don't shoot a 17 year old walking down the sidewalk with iced tea and skittles and nothing and NOT get arrested. All supposition at this point -but I'm wondering if the kid did something to make the guy feel he was armed too. Not sticking up for the shooter ,since I don't know what happened..but the mere fact that there was no immediate arrest and it looks like none are planned makes me think that authorities feel the boy had some culpability and the shooting was somehow justified?. Or maybe they know the shooter , know he is not a flight risk at all , and are just gathering more evidence before making an arrest?

I don't know..looks they are not planning immediate charges as the family is campaigning for a prosecution. That just tells me a lot of details are missing from the story ..otherwise I would expect immediate arrest of the guy who shot a minor. Right? read: https://www.change.org/petitions/prosecute-the-murderer-of-17-year-old-trayvon-martin

Has anyone seen this or does anyone know more details? http://globalgrind.com/news/trayvon-martin-shot-and-killed-his-own-neighborhood-watch-details

^ this works for camera gear too. All the Nikon pro bodies look alike ( big , black ) , and the lenses are similar. So are the speedlights. Not saying IIIIIIIII do that...but I know plenty of photographers who have like 4 bodies and 10 lenses and 5speedlights..their spouses think they have one body and 2 or 3 lenses and a speedlight

We actually have a bit of role reversal going on in my house . I actually would not have mentioned buying a new M&P 40 this week ..but you know , we're on the same forum and all. I needed something that I could use for round intensive seminars. I bought a .45 first because it was a family friend's estate sale. So , who wants to spend all that money on ammo for 4 hours?? Plus , it needs some gunsmithing as it ejects right into my forehead. Not fun for a long seminar , no. Then I bought a revolver second. Why ? Because it was shiny and fit my hand great and I wanted it. Hence the need to try and totally work the 1 gun a month and get my 3rd gun , which will be my utility gun , on the the first day I am allowed. I have that training thing with Col Mike the very next day...no way I am forehead deflecting 250 rounds of .45s on that day! How many lead semicircles can fit on one forehead ??? So I NEEDED to get a 3rd handgun on day 90 , thank you very much. Men!!!!!!!!

If cell phones and the internet are out , I would not need phone #3s written down. The only two people I know who have land lines are my mother , Pete's mother in Ireland , and the Police station. Know all 3 of those by heart. Even if I wrote all the other numbers down , they would not be reachable , and I don;t have a land line and have not seen a payphone around here in years lol Food for thought , eh? I have been thinking about getting a landline installed ever since a 911 call that would have seen my kid dead before they got around to transfer me to the right municipality. I hung up after 3 transfers. Good thing he was ok without their help.

Thank you for posting that article BTW ..I just read it. Reads the same way I remember him telling it

I may be confusing division numbers from WWII , Korea ...etc. Then he was in the Merchent Marines during Vietnam. Infuriating story..I was suppose to inherit his entire WWII photo book and documentation. Pictures of him with prisoners , men around a downed plane. That , and his German Issue Luger that he brought home with him. I did not get any of it as promised because of family B.S . I did get his Mossberg though . I have his name , year of birth , those types of vitals. Nothing else. I was suppose to get all his WWII stuff because I was the only one who would ask to see the book and who listened to all his non combat related WWII stories. My uncle , his brother , was a cook in the Army during WWII. They managed to meet up in France , got some leave time , and got into a huge brawl in a bar. There is a b/w picture of them from the next morning. They both have their caps on crooked , my grandpa has a black eye and my uncle was missing teeth. My dad does have some kind of letter pertaining to the Leopoldville. I kind of fume when I think of not getting what was intended for me , so , you know.

Just was talking to my husband..we have all the guns you are mulling over .. I have a 1911 Colt .45 and a revolver - SW Model 60 .357 , and my husband has the CZ 75 Sp01 ( tactical ) a S&W 686 .357 revolver with a 6 inch barrel. If you can make your way down to Belleville you are more than welcome to do a try before buy

" did you learn any Arabic ? deka derka derka" That was funny but probably all too true . People do say the stupidest s%^t. I usually just say "Thanks for your service" , or maybe ask where they were stationed..let them choose if they want to add anything beyond that. My grandfather was in the 101st Division , the Black Panthers , and was on the USS Leopold . He saw a lot of action in WWII ( and Korea) . He spent over 30 days in a Foxhole in France. He never said anything about it beyond the fact that it was over 30 days in the "same damn Foxhole" . That and a few words about the French. He obviously didn't want to talk about it.

I was shopping around for a CZ 75 sp01 tactical , because my husband has one and it is awesome. I have limited experience , but something about the way it shoots and feels is just nice. That said , they are n/a with no estimated date. I say get the revolver now , then you will have a 9mm and a revolver. I love my revolver ( SW Model 60 Pro .357 ) . You can shoot .38s out of it at the range to be economical , and use .357s at home for HD. Then try and get on the wait list for a CZ. Have someone order it for you ( my husband got his from Arms and Ammo and he had a great experience)..by the time it comes in I'm sure another 30 days will have passed and you'll be clear to add it to your collection. IMO it is worth waiting for . I got the SW MP40 Pro series ( I pick it up March 30) ..but my next batch of permits will see at least one used on an all metal CZ . That is how I would play it at least

GFH , definitely. I don't know what the other places charge , but I find their prices more than fair considering the amount of individual attention you get from the instructors and the owner.

The grips are carved from Mammoth tusks??? Ok , I went to a strict Catholic school and they just kind of conveniently skipped over Dinosaurs completely..but I am under the impression you don't have a lot of access to Mammoth tusks these days? So they are buying fossil ivory to make the grips? That must be an expensive gun...

Guaranteed to stop all Vikings in their tracks.

yep Me too. FB can really help in a situation like this. As unfortunate as it is that most kids walk around doing mobile updates from their smart phones while they are suppose to be enjoying each other's company , it came in handy in this instance as they knew the boy was around town under his own power , and it kept them from using a very import resource ( Amber Alert) when it was not needed yet.

Well , what happened was , he was very late coming from school..so his Mother posted on FB , THEN called the Police. The local towns newspaper's FB page posted about it , then was going to retract it because they only report missing persons if Police have been notified. They said " police are involved" ..so there you go. A few of his friends posted on the town FB page that they saw him here and there..etc .That is why there was no Amber Alert , I would think the police realized they had a teen that was late to get home , not really missing yet since his friends had seen him around town. Apparently his mother got so frantically worried about him because he is very depressed. He had apparently said some dark things lately and was in serious counseling. I really have no issues with her using FB to find a depressed teen that not home when he was suppose to be. If my 13 year old was in that kind of state and late , I would use FB to reach out to town people to see who had seen him where.

The same reason it is NOT in the news when illegally owned guns kill people. The crime is in the news , but the fact that the gun was illegally owned never makes it into a paragraph. Flip to legally owned guns , now you have a story! IMO , they would report it to put a liberal spin on what happens when you "let" people legally collect firearms. They want people to be afraid because he has such an extensive collection. If they could get away with it I'm sure they would have used the word "compound" . The news is no longer the news. It is The Agenda.

They found him walking down the street not very long after he went missing. Police know about it , boy is fine but probably grounded

You might be right ..I did not look it up either though. I know PG-13 came out after I was 13 . Now , Purple rain that was definitely R. Oh man , Purple Rain..

You can tell people you know one of the kids that ran down the road and up the steps in Rocky II in Philly in 1978 or so. My dad and little baby siblings at the time lived on Parrish St which was 2 blocks away from that road that ends in a circle at the Art Museum. They had a casting call for any kids aged 7 to 14 to run down the street as extras. I'm in there somewhere , can never find myself though :/

Most of those movies do seem ..eh..different when you watch them now. Footloose was horrific. I had a poster of the Outsiders in my room, second crush crush was Matt Dillon( first was Han Solo) . Again decent flic at the time.

Yeah , at the time Red dawn was out an invading military drop on USA soil was something everyone was scared of. Anyone else old enough to remember the sirens and you had to go under the desk? The duck and cover drills?

Yep , close to us too. Saw it all over facebook this a.m . Very upsetting. Sounds like they had a dispute and he killed her. Not typical for our neighborhood. Last killing I remember was the armed robbery of Rachel Jewelers on Kearny Ave where they shot and killed the owners son while the owner was next door getting breakfast at the Bagel shop.

I had a friend who was a CO officer at Rahway. He was being demonstrative with his pistol while fighting with his girlfriend and put a round in his head. Now that I handle firearms myself I am thinking he thought the safety was on. He held the gun to his head while he was arguing with her ( he was trying to get her to go away) , he bumped into the door frame of his bedroom. He had been drinking. He was 27. NDs are not funny , ever.

Saw it in a movie theatre on a chaperoned "date" when I was 14. It was rated R , one of the first ones I saw in the movie theatre.