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great ..i just picked up one today....going to shoot it tomorrow .....hope im on the lucky side of the line this time....

I'm sure that I had read on here the faxes go to a 3rd party in another state ..fl maybe... Then "organized" and either processed by them and the yea/nay and #'s sent back to nj nics... Then they contact ffl... Or grouped and send back to nj nics to be run.... That was incorrect info?...it made sense to me and would be the only way I could see it taking the crazy times..13 days and counting for me... Busy would be longer hold times.... Or same/next day responses to faxes... Not 13 unless they're walking by saying " oh more faxes... Ill do them later".. Lol

I am at day 12 and still waiting on a pistol I paid/filled out the papers for on 3/29.... Its gotten ridiculous...as if all the bs above and beyond we've accepted over the years... Now they figure out a way to create a waiting period by ending phone calls and only taking faxes?...bring in some 3rd party to make it more involved/steps ..all the while slowly stretching it out... From a day or two... We swallowed it... Then a week .. We swallowed it... 2weeks.. They'll just keep pushing it back until they're stopped.... All the while feeding us bs justification ... De pa etc all sell more guns but its still while you wait service...the docile subjects of nj will continue to keep their heads down and say "well it could be worse"... Really? I'm thinking its pretty bad right now ... Wait 15-20 days call ffl .. And get attitude from them and wait another 15-20 they need to remove time limit from permits if they're going to pull this crap.. ..sorry for venting... It's just getting hard to keep swallowing the bs

thin blue line?..."proffessional courtesy"?...double standard..definately

i know what you mean....a few years back....i was in maine...and ended up in old orchard beach...walking around a while..and i had this odd feeling..couldnt really put my finger on it...then one of the people i was with said he had the same feeling....almost surreal ...then one of the others in the party said..."its probably a feeling of safety"..in slightly different terms......then i realized it must be that...it was like wildwood with the rides/games/ammusements etc...only it was clean..people friendly...no out of control screaming crying kids/parents screaming/threatening them....no "gangstas/thugs"....it was almost like an alternate universe...lol we joked that thats probably how wildwood was back in the 40s/50s...lol

youd be surprised how many do now....

because they know someone will walk in and buy their "allowed" amount..without hesitation...hell theyd sell it at 50 a box for that matter....

to me the real wtf moment is seeing people are still shopping there....lol

Just to clarify... It's not a Motocross thing... It's a less than desirable portion of the freestyle side of motorcycles....think wwf compared to olympic wrestling ...with drugs/hard partying ...which through good marketing on deegans part took it mainstream with little kids and weekend warriors embracing the sculls and bs antics ...selling tshirts and stickers at the mall etc

Kind of amazed at the report that the 4 yo managed to acquire a target at 15 feet and manipulate the weapon steady enough for the unfortunate outcome......think of the shitstorm the average person would be in as a result of a sd shoot during a home invasion ..... Yet in this case ... Not so much...it may come out after investigation that the gun had evil powers broke out of the safe...loaded itself... Turned a 4yo into a proficient shooter and the guns owner will be found not responsible of wrong doing ... The gun shop that sold lanzas mother guns per law... Lost their ffl... But a leo(of whatever capacity) who is 120% responsible for this tragedy will get preferential treatment.... Based on this level of stupidity... Is he really capable of the decision making processes of a parent?!..let alone a Leo? Im not bashing Leo's ... But it seems to be more and more that clearly shouldn't be in the position....

TSA training? Wow... Lol

a friend that lives/works very close to (within eyeshot) there said theres been alot of activity recently....blackhawks touch and go..tail tapping... flying tight formations treetop high in a couple mile radius...."all just routine training" says the officials

that terrible prayers for him to find peace along with his family

i must just be too old...we had guidance counselors...and a nurse....but no "psycologists/grief counselors"...over my school years..we had all kinds of deaths...kid hung himself...several gun suicides...car accidents..jumpers...both teachers and students....the one that hung himself did in it the gymnasium...they did announced that if anyone would like to talk to someone they could provide contact info....its great that they offer it i guess...just not for me or mine...given the current climate its not realistic to think this wont be used

Same thing... Failure to follow law... Not to mention plain common sense

That's the difference.... In the cases you guys mention the events took place AT SCHOOL....creating feelings to be associated with the place....whether it be a school/workplace etc.... But to take an event that happens somewhere totally not school related.... Then parade the team of specialists into a school...and drag it into a school so news papers can write all about how " counselors are helping the grief stricken at abc school work through another pool child victim of gun violence"... ... If a child had died in a car accident they wouldn't be dragging the situation into a school.... It's just to keep the newtown momentum going....which is as disgusting as the parents stupidity

It's a terrible thing that happened and 100% the parents fault for not following THE LAW of locking up the firearms with kids in the house.... But to roll in the "specialists" to the school which was not involved at the least is a blatent attempt to push the " our kids at school aren't safe see we need to ban guns".... Crap.... Not to mention the liberal mind f they'll get from the "counselor"... Giving them carte Blanche with my kids mind no thanks

It's a terrible thing!..... But it's odd to me the school superintendent had a voice in the article...since it didn't happen at school it was 6-7 pm....main issue though who leaves a loaded firearm in reach of a 4 yo?. ... Much less that he could obtain and wander off with it....shitty parenting

Target master does..although I think theirs is has to be renter +1...unless your a regular/member

i like the videos at the bottom....the neighbors defending him....white trash chick saying hes a good guy and shed trust him with her son ....yeah most 16 yo parents would dump their kinds on anyone to go party..lol or the old lady that said that people shouldnt be so hard on him for making making a mistake...lmao...thats whats wrong with this country ...people like this that are accepting/enablers of this type of behavior...

yep..a prime example why "our rulers" dont want law abiding citizens to have the ability to defend themselves....think how it might have gone if this kid had a ccdw.....the real kicker is the police provided the delivery service ....a sneek peek into the future?...maybe

yup...that about sums that place up ...years ago before i found this forum and the vendors here i made the mistake of being a "customer" of theirs when they had an item no one else had or wanted to order....but never again!

pleasure to deal with..very knowledgeable ..great meeting you thanks again!

or maybe theyre those special "assault boolitz" that are 10X more deadly...lol

yup...they are "strong supporters of the 2ndA..and gun owners"...they show it by charging $70 for a $10...theyre just scumbags!