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Yes. It's a complete lower (un-pinned) for $100. Outstanding quality too. Regarding the Plumb Crazy lowers that are shown damaged in the thread posted above, from my research the damage resulted from a user that removed the rear take-down pin without supporting the upper, allowing the upper assembly to swing unsupported on the front pin. Not a good practice whether your lower is poly or aluminum. In any event, the NFA lower uses a different polymer, chosen specifically to address the above type of failure. I have several hundred rounds through my LW-15 and have never even given any thought to its construction. The only time I think about it are those times people assert that they must be crap because they are poly. Those people can keep talkin', I'll continue shooting

Out in the sticks we use to drive with rifles on a rack in the back of our pickup trucks. No one does that anymore. I never experienced anyone elses road rage back then.

Yes, Stag delivered mine in about 1/3 the estimate quoted. Great quality, service and price. The AR Trifecta.

The title of this thread made me laugh. It illustrates just how ridiculous the guns laws are in NJ.

I think finding 9mm/.22LR twins might be a pipe dream. At one point I had about a dozen different possible twins/pairs on my list, but based on a lot of feed back and on-line reviews I ruled out many pairs. So here's my short list: M&P 9 model 109201 (6.5lb trigger, no thumb safety, 10-rd) M&P 22 model 122000 (10lb trigger, thumb safety, 10-rd) Not identical twins, but fraternal twins. I believe with some trigger work I can get these two close, but they will never be the same given that the 9mm is a Strike Fire/DOA and the .22 is Single Action. Ruger SR9 B-10-L Ruger SR22PB Not twins at all, but somehow related. Once again the two weapons have different action; the 9mm is a Strike Fire/DOA and the .22 is SA/DA. The SR22 has some nice features like fully adjustable sights. Hickok45 liked both weapons quite a bit (he reviewed the SR9C which is very similar). Ruger SR9 B-10-L Ruger SR22PB Not twins, but brothers. Both are SA/DA. This is the (low) price winner of the group. CZ75B CZ Kadet Twins. In a odd twist, the .22 Kadet sells for 30% more the the 9mm. Sig P226 9mm Sig P226 .22LR The closest twins...almost inbred. But the price of these two might keep me away. So I have a lot of shooting to do. The local range has all of the 9mm guns listed above and some of the .22LR's for rent. In the end the search for twins might be a compromise, so I'll more then likely get the 9mm and .22LR that I like the best. If I'm lucky they'll be family members.

I have interest in 9mm and .223. Of course there is also the question of grain and manufacturer.

The legal owner must be present.

Not only is it legal, it's encouraged.

No isn't a "right" answer. All of these various options exist because different people like different things. The brands you mentioned all manufacture great weapons. Get the one that lights your fire, and as you discover what you like and don't like, you can always swap-out parts. It's all part of the modular beauty that is the AR.

I added the CZ75 to my list. The Beretta 92 is an awesome gun, but it seems that the Chiappa M9-22 isn't getting a lot of love. I've read that they had some early build issues.

I was just looking at the NJ Administrative Code, Firearms and Weapons. According to section 13:51-1.2, Definitions, of the code, "M1 carbine type rifles" are included in the definition of "Assault firearms". While many other banned weapons are included by name, the M1 is included by type. Also included are "Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed in paragraph" 13:51-1.2, Definitions. Knock-off M1 rifles, chambered for .22LR as the Citadel is, are not substantially identical to the M1 carbine type. In fact, they are significantly different, having no interchangeable parts. This couldn't be any clearer.

According to section 13:51-1.2, Definitions, of NJ Administrative Code, Firearms and Weapons, "M1 carbine type rifles" are included in the definition of "Assault firearms". While many other banned weapons are included by name, the M1 is included by type. Also included are "Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed in paragraph" 13:51-1.2, Definitions. Of course there is the list of modifications that allow some types included in that list to become acceptable, but the M1 can not be modified under those conditions, i.e. it isn't possible to pin the stock, it doesn't have a flash hider, doesn't have a pistol grip. An "M1 carbine type" simply isn't allowed.

My 12 year old is a bit unusual...he's 5'10 and shooting past 130 pounds. He's gonna be a big dude. Just to be clear, I'm not looking for a gun that can be a .22 and a 9mm, I'm looking for two separate guns that share the same features. Thanks for the reports (pun) on the M&P's, they are at the top of my list.

Midway USA has 25 for $19.

I've got two purchase permits on the way and I'm looking to purchase two new semi-auto handguns; a 9mm and a .22LR. Here's my requirement: I'm looking at handguns that come in both 9mm and .22. This way I can shoot inexpensive ammo and get lots of trigger time (both fit this requirement) but most importantly I want my 12 year-old son to be able to shoot with the old man at our range. The first guns I can think of that meet my requirements are the M&P9 and M&P22. I also know that the Sig P226 comes in both calibers. If anyone has experience with these guns, please let me know the positive and negative attributes of each. I like to narrow-down my search as much as possible in the next week or two and then head out to Heritage to rent and try before I buy. Thanks for the helping me pick out something I'll own forever. Gary

You call that a decent neighborhood? There have been a total of zero burglaries in my neighborhood in the 20 years I've been living in my house. I think that's decent and a reasonable expectation. Regarding a truck showing up that says "Freds Safes and Ammo", how is this making you less safe? First off, it says to potential thieves "don't bother". And, unless your neighbors are the potential thieves, it is highly unlikely that potential thieves will be driving by right at that moment.

Is that directed at me for referring to the AR and AK as assault weapons? That is why I put those two words between quotation marks; I don't believe that any semi automatic weapon is an assault weapon. I also don't see how the Citadel M-1-22 and the Tribute M-1 10/22 are different. If the Ruger 10/22 is NJ legal, how is it that the Tribute M-1 10/22 is legal. And if the Tribute M-1 10/22 is legal, then the Citadel M-1-22 must be legal as it shares the same features and marketing.

I would argue that a NJ legal AR or AK is closer to an "assault weapon" then a .22 cal plinker.

The specs of this rifle is similar to many semi-auto .22 caliber rifles on the market. Calling it an M1 is just pure marketing because clearly it is not an M1 Carbine, .30 Cal. I can call my wife's red minivan a Ferrari, but that doesn't make it one. If you purchase the rifle by an NJ FFL, who is at fault? If the dealer is willing to sell it, buy it.

If the rules are different, then my AR just became my HD weapon of choice.

Cabella's line of Russian/Wolf steel ammo (Herders) is poly coated steel and is very inexpensive. It's 55gr and goes BANG just like other ammo. It often goes on sale for $0.20 per round. For $30 you can shoot 100 rounds and decide for yourself if it works in your rifle.

Joking. The OP's premise reminded me of a conversation I had with a flight instructor many years ago. I was asked a typical question: "what do you do in the event of an emergency?". I gave the typical answer; "fly the airplane, communicate, comply". The instructor said (jokingly) "no, you throw your log book out the window". The point is you may do the right thing at the time to save lives, but you will pay the price when the dust settles.

OP's question: "Someone comes onto my property and threatens my family. I shoot and kill them "outside"." What do you do: Drag the body into your house THEN call the police Saves everybody a lot of heart ache.

Here are some views of the reticle of the Mamba: No lighting: Red lighting: For some reason the photo didn't do the lighting justice. It's red in person. I can't see the green in full daylight. Today was the first day I shot the rifle without a lead-sled. The lead-sled is a much better shot then I am I shot about 100 rounds today using only a front bag. There was no rhyme or reason to my hits for the first 20 shots. Then I really began to concentrate and pull the rifle into me; making sure the stock was firmly in my shoulder, making sure that I had a good cheek-weld, and consistently supporting the area in front of the mag (but behind the hand grip). I began to get tighter groups (one 3-shot the size of a quarter) but none inside the 8 ring. Finally, now that I have some more trigger time, a 4 pound trigger pull is too heavy for this rifle. Once I get my groups back in the 9 ring I'm gonna work on that trigger.

Nice group with a 3X optic @ 100 yds.