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Local SPCA... too many dogs in shelters to not recommend at least stopping by.

Yep, which is why I said torque driver... never saw one in foot/pounds. Uses standard screwdriver bits. The one bhunted posted is another good option.

I got a Husky one from Home Depot. Craftsmen from Sears is another option... which I have a larger one for automotive stuff. Wouldn't by a no-name brand.

Most mounts have torque specs for screws... usually inch/pounds. The way you don't strip the threads is using a torque driver, to the right spec. Put blue Loctite on the threads, torque, then good to go. Don't do red, blue is good enough for most firearm purposes.

Considering the Mare's Leg is a pistol... nope. Looks aside, it doesn't meet the SBS definition. The SBS statute doesn't ban the Luger, or the Mare's Leg... it bans shotguns with barrels under 18", rifles with barrels under 16", and rifles/shotguns under 26" overall length. Putting a stock on a Luger creates at least one of those instances.

Think the length of pull is very apparent between the two...

A firearm designated as a pistol from the factory didn't have a stock attached. The Mare's Leg... while it looks functional, is not something you'd shoulder easily. If you took a true stock and fitted it onto a Mare's Leg, then you have a SBR. Same as if you put a stock on a CZ Scorpion Evo or SIG MPX pistol. If the Luger has the slot for the stock, it is a pistol... first and foremost. The stock is an add on, and it doesn't matter if it came from the factory like that or not. You have a pistol, add a stock, and considering you did not change the barrel out to a 16+"... you have a SBR. Likewise, if you take a Beretta CX4, and chop the barrel down to right past the forend... it never turned into a pistol, just an SBR. The stock is the defining characteristic of an SBR, as the same firearm with a brace (under Federal eyes), would be considered a pistol... if it was never stocked before. Another pistol that is big with these issues are Thompson Center pistols. It is smarter to get it as a pistol, then get the longer barrels/stock, to turn it into a rifle. As long as you don't put the stock on before the longer barrel, you legally have a rifle.

Nope... They didn't say that a Luger with a stock isn't a SBR; they said that because of the collector statue of the firearm/stock, that tax stamps are not required. You are kind of taking an exception of the NFA, and making it a standard. By definition, a Luger with a stock is a SBR. Not requiring a tax stamp for one isn't the same as saying it is not a SBR. NJ doesn't allow SBR/SBS. NJ calling a rifled barrel firearm a SBS is not a question, as they define it specifically as any of three combinations. In regards to members/people saying they have a Luger with a stock, far from makes it legal. I'm sure there are still people with M1 Carbines in the state, doesn't mean they are legal (unless they registered them).

Are those the new curved 20s?

Correct, BATFE took it off the NFA registry... but doesn't mean that adding a stock doesn't turn it into a rifle. It just states you don't have to file for a tax stamp to SBR a Luger (one that was originally designed to accept one; modification to a Luger to accept one, I'm pretty sure would require SBR paperwork). NJ's statute says specifically a rifle with a barrel less than 16", or overall length under 26". Their definitions define a Luger with a stock as a rifle, since that stock was designed to allow you to fire from the shoulder... no other reason for it. Unless you toss a 16" barrel on it (people don't do elsewhere, since it is exempted with NFA), NJ calls it a SBS. BATFE doesn't define blackpowder guns as firearms... NJ does. BB guns aren't defined as firearms in other places... but we still see attempts to change the laws to change that in NJ up to this day. Never gets through. If you want to get a stock and a Luger with a lug... so be it. If it gets to court, it is a third degree crime. That would make you a felon. If you feel that you can argue it, best of luck. However, with it being very clear in 2C:39, you likely are going to lose your ability to own firearms afterwards. As I've said, I'll file for a SBR/suppressor stamp as soon as I get settled in Maine... for a CZ Scorpion Evo pistol. If I find a Luger or Broomhandle Mauser in for a decent price, I'd get one. If I can put a stock on it, then will do it there... without issue.

If you look, there is a comma after the shotgun description in that definition... then a "or a rifle..." That means it is a separate example, which is clear. I didn't put the definition of a rifle. But let's say you have a Beretta Neos pistol... there is a carbine kit for those, which you put the barrel on first, then the stock. Even though it is registered as a pistol, the stock being installed makes it a rifle. If you forget the barrel step, you made a SBR (SBS under NJ's definition). Technically, you broke Federal law, as well as NJ law. Put a stock on a Luger... Doesn't matter what BATFE says is ok, as there is not one exception in any of those NJ statutes. You would be safe from Federal charges, as they call a Luger an exception, but still NJ prohibited. Do I agree with the law? No, of course not. However, a Luger with a stock attached is considered a SBS within NJ law... and is a third degree crime.

Very clear... and even if they want to call it a SBS, it is illegal per NJ 2C law.

For the longest time, 1:8" wasn't that popular. People would pick 1:7" or 1:9". My Spikes upper, which they installed an AA piston kit, is 1:8"... and I haven't found a load it hasn't liked (had function issues with UMC .223... but was the buffer combination I was using; ran fine with a standard buffer). My FDE build was based off an 18" 1:8" barrel.

Got the email... So, don't look to get rid of my Gen 3 30S, right? Don't know the twenty changes, but nothing they listed seemed to make it worthwhile. Guess I'll wait until Gen 6 for a chassis system. Or maybe Gen 7...

Also, don't just look for new... AR15.com's EE has a lot of good deals on high end optics, when people want the latest and greatest.

Want to make money... same side saddle... but put a strong rubber coated magnet on the back. [emoji41] Well, it won't work on Mossberg...

I have three Aimpoints... two PROs and a Comp M4s. All use the standard mounts, except the one PRO on my AR has a forward extension to push it out towards the Delta ring (height is exactly the same). The Aimpoint 3x magnifier (on a LaRue mount) works between them all. Even though a .45 AR doesn't need it due to the effective range, I still put it on to get a more accurate zero. But whether it is my AR or Tavor, can go right on the rail and used when needed (folding system is very easy to move). Definitely recommend the LaRue mount for the magnifier... opposed to that twist mount. Definitely doable to run behind an EOTech... just I don't like them. I originally was looking at the EXPS2, but eventually decided on my first PRO. Battery life was just too good to not go Aimpoint. With all the BS that came up with EOTech somewhat recently, I just stick by Aimpoint that much more. Does an EOTech work? I'm sure it does... but they aren't getting my money.

I tried the Velcro/shotgun card for my Ithaca, as nobody makes side saddles for them anymore... pulled it off and left the cards in the nightstand. I'm thinking it was more due to it being refinished in NP3+, but the adhesive for the Velcro would not stay on the receiver. I think they were seven shot cards, loaded with Remington 00 (reduced recoil), and noticed it hanging off the receiver in a little over two weeks. I always do TacStar side saddles for my shotguns. Never an issue, whether I do brass up/down (most are down, two specialty loads are up on my 870; all for the Ithaca was down... for obvious reasons). Wish I could find a TacStar side saddle for my Ithaca. Would be one of those things that would just round that shotgun out... even if I had to send metal to Robar to match.

Don't know who posted that... but they are incorrect. If you used a pistol permit for that serial number, you do not have to burn another permit for sending it into the factory. Handguns can be shipped via UPS or FedEx to/from the manufacturer/gunsmith and back to the owner... as long as there is no change of ownership. Let someone show me in the NJ 2C code where it states sending a gun to a manufacturer for work requires a NICS and another permit.

But then I lose all the stickers I have on my Fatboy Jr. [emoji6] I'm not really too fond of selling/buying new safes. The two Liberty Safes I have use the mechanical locks... and I can unlock either easily. The smaller one will be the one in the bedroom in the next house... The Fatboy Jr will likely be unlocked most of the time. I already have the ok for a safe room/bunker. [emoji41] Just need to find/build the right house. Will have a place for reloading, work bench, racks for the guns that don't fit in the safe. Going climate controlled and cable ready, as well. My girlfriend doesn't like basements, so shy of any house needs (HVAC, water heater, etc)... my area! Hell, if that stuff is in the center of the basement, I'll box around it and have a C shaped safe room.

I'm going to have to find someone to do it when we move to Maine. Probably just going to put it in a Pod, then ship.

To add to that, GunBlast did a review of one with the conversion I mentioned. Gave good reviews of it, but people were up in arms when I asked about it on The Firing Line. Should have been more skeptical, as people tell me my 642-1 is going to blow up with 9mm (it doesn't).

That's why I like living in Howell... Lakewood has FedEx and UPS hubs a few minutes from my house. I usually just have packages (not just firearms) held there for pickup. The one that I hate dealing with is USPS. Had a M1903 turned into USMC sniper reproduction, and the mail woman left it out on a rainy day (about $3,000 worth of firearm). Luckily, someone got home early and pulled it out of the box... foam didn't get wet, so all was good. I didn't have any problems from USPS with my Garand from Shuff's, but leaving a firearm out, with adult signature required, I was pissed. Mentioning Dunkin Donuts, it is ok... except the one easier to get to by my house (on Southbound side of Route 9 in Howell... not the one by Home Depot, further South). Went to the window, ordered a frozen hot chocolate... met with a regular hot chocolate. Being 80 outside, sent it back and received a frozen drink... found out to be coffee as I left the parking lot. Being a diabetic, I can't really skip something when I already put it into the pump... so went around the block and went in. Tried to be nice, as s*** happens, but when I told them what happened, I walked out with another frozen coffee (had coffee taste, but figured it was from the other drink). Girlfriend confirmed it, went back in, another drink... and the girl told the one making it to "put in shots of mocha." By the time I walk out, was fuming... since I just wanted a simple drink that is normally on the menu. Sent an email to DD, saying that was very unhappy with them. They had the manager call me, who said she was sorry... but actually never apologized for it. I got that because school is starting up, she had to hire new employees. Ok, but how exactly do they mess up an order three times? Nor that nobody was there to give an answer why it was coming back as coffee (figured they had things mislabeled). Was a phone call that I actually will never go back due to. There is one on the North side of Route 9, but a pain to get to. That's my new one.

I wanted to get one and have it machined for .45 ACP/moon clips... but was told of how weak the design is for .45 Colt. Kind of killed my interest in them... at least until I'm out of NJ. I have a Ruger New Vaquero Convertible, so was considering a short barreled Schofield as a second gun, if I ever decided to try CAS. Personally, the Schofield redesign is a little better than other Model 3s, as it is easier to break the gun open with your firing hand.

I'd go to a FedEx Ship Center... not a Office Store or Kinkos. A place that FedEx trucks are loaded/unloaded prior to delivery or sending packages out on carriers. While it may work out, privately own places tend to be where issues occur (UPS Store, for example). UPS, you must go through one of their hubs.