H.M. Murdock

I bought a box of hollow point .40 S&W from a Dicks last week in Utah. I was in a bind -- I could either buy from the only place open or walk around all night with a holstered paperweight. A moment of weakness that I will not repeat. Never forget what they did after 12/14!

In the same principle the judge can declare a mistrial. Or worse, overturn the verict. The darkness approaches.

Yeah there's been a lot of new shooters at Shore Shot recently. A lot of dudes dragging their female companions in with them especially. Every time I'm there a RSO has had intervene in respect to muzzle direction. Sometimes they even call cease fire and remove the offending persons. Someone please humour me and tell me those lane dividers are bullet proof. Undeterred, I still go to Shore Shot on a regular basis. But I try to go when it is empty like when everyone else is at work. And as the considerate person that I am, I shoot all my rounds through the same hole so that someone can re-use my target when I'm done.

Done, that was easy.

That is truly heart breaking

Some of us have enough 7.62x39mm to shoot for the rest of our lives. I have been waiting quite a long time for my periodic M2 ball order to be fulfilled by the CMP though. I'm assuming they're a bit swamped at the moment? I'm getting a little bit nervous, I only have enough supplies to last me thru 2018

My point about the man with the gun was a bit simplistic. Militias could provide the organization and structure to keep their members outfitted, in contact and in alliance (dispute resolution, etc). Change my original statement to: the militia with guns does not worry itself when the power is turned off. Yes I am an operator. Primarily a listener. I don't know much about Katrina other than it was every man for himself. I've only heard a personal account from a good friend was down there doing environmental contracting. He got thrown in jail for a week with the unwashed masses. In the scope of this discussion, what can we learn from Katrina? (question to all) Geez, don't be so hard on those old hams My point was that the generation of people we're discussing already operate a communication network of which the equipment is ubiquitioius across the country. The infrastructure is in place. I imagine encryption keys will be distributed at your militia meeting. Their goal is not to run a secret communication network here. It's merely to communicate and always try to stay a step ahead. These networks could be developed and tested before we're in crisis mode. I have seen first hand operators and homebrew engineers rise to the challenge in patching together various networks to distribute and exchange information in simulation. A real world example of successful ad hoc civilian radio networks is the Balkans in the early 90's. Regarding triangulation, fox hunting isn't that simple. Particularly low power mobile 2M which I imagine the bulk of transmissions will be.

If we're talking about a SHTF scenario then a man with a gun does not worry himself when the power is turned off. He merely takes his gun and jerry can and fills it with fuel. A lot of Rx equipment do not require stored power and these hand-crank and solar powered receivers are fairly common. I'm careful not to underestimate the bounds of improvisation and invention when preservation requires it. EMP -- are we talking about a nuclear device? We're going to have much bigger concerns than our solid state radio equipment getting fried, regardless. As in the entire electrical infrastructure getting disabled.. large government entities down to gypsy camps. There is a lot of fiction floating around on EMP effects, ranges, etc. So if we discuss that danger then we should define exactly what kind of EMP weapon we are talking about. When we lost our local government and infrastructure in this recent Hurricane -- even trunked police communication having issues -- I was sitting in the darkness listening to the calm, collected voices of those old ham radio operators do what they do best. I have faith.

List all the firearms you want to purchase over the next 50 years and I'll make you a fake online storefront where you can show her all the firearms you have backordered..

That system is already in place across the entire Union and has been for a century. It's battle proven and the equipment is ubiquitous. It's operated by the same Veterans and who take their oath seriously. And who have considerable radio experience in coordination and dispatch during real emergencies. Combine that with modern encryption, AX.25, spread spectrum transceivers.. using simplex for local traffic and rogue repeaters and even encapsulating traffic via the internet to go the distance.. Some of the younger operators don't know Morse if CW becomes necessary -- easily learned though. IMO ham radio has an advantage over a private trunked radio in this scenario (let's see how long those stay up). Don't even bring that up with a NYC firefighter. Buy a mobile 2M radio and put it away for a rainy day. Buy a 10m radio, antenna and linear amp and put it away for a rainy day. If you know an electronics guy then have him modify it to transcieve on 11m (Citizens Band) as well. Do all this now so you're not trying to solder together your own radio using ASCII schematics you found in some 1980's text document because you waited too long and everyone is sold out of radios. And oh yeah... learn how to ride a horse

The Gun Talk Radio telephone # is still working for $300 life: 888/678-7894 (verified today)

I'm referring to the southwest US which is a hotbed for training programs. Probably due to the pro 2A atmosphere and the vast rugged and remote outdoor environment.

Not forgotten. You're lucky you still have one in your life. God bless.

Make no mistake about it, de facto militias have been forming in upstate, central and western NY. And if similar legislation is passed in NJ the whispers will start percolating here as well. Vietnam combat veterans may be too old to climb trees these days but they have significant knowledge and guidance to impart to fellow like-minded Americans. Neither side should count their chickens just yet. I pray that these anti-American politicians withdraw their assault on our Constitution and way of life.

^^ Don't forget retention I've done some of Anthony's classes at GFH and I lurned some things I'd be Swiss like cheese in a gun fight against a career SWAT officer though. My only hope would be getting the drop on them (I don't carry open unless I'm hiking and shedding layers) Consider flying out to the desert to take some classes, I can't think of a better way to spend a weekend.

I love it when a plan comes together!!! This thread gave me a warm fuzzy feeling so I'm going to sign off the computer for the moment and enjoy it.

Baltimore Police Chief Johnson?

The only remotely positive thing I can say about these California end-run contraptions is that they are incredibly easy to remove when the SHTF

If he lowers his price you know where to find us

Yeah, that guy is a joke. If you watch in HD you can see the strings moving above him.

Excellent

I know there will be unofficial video snippets that will make their way online after the rally but are there any plans to record the speeches officially/professionally? Thanks in advance

I'd pay in the $20-30 range for the 74 mags Cash in hand

Just like the nukes on the interstate highways

Supreme Court held that prior restraint of 1A rights are unconstitutional It has been argued for 2A rights (for having to show proper cause to obtain an unrestricted pistol permit in NYS) unsuccessfully in Kachaksky vs County of Westchester (upheld by 2nd U.S. Court of Appeals) http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/court-wont-import-first-amendment-concept-into-second-amendment-case "Court rejects First Amendment concept in Second Amendment case David L. Hudson Jr. First Amendment Scholar Wednesday, November 28, 2012 The First Amendment’s presumption against prior restraints should not be used in Second Amendment cases, a federal appeals court has ruled in rejecting a constitutional challenge to New York’s restrictive handgun-permit law. Five people — Alan Kachalsky, Christina Nikolov, Johnnie Nance, Anna Marcucci-Nance and Eric Detmer — challenged the state’s restrictive handgun-permit laws on Second Amendment grounds after they were denied full-carry licenses to carry concealed handguns. Part of the law provides that a license “shall be issued to . . . have and carry [a firearm] concealed . . . by any person when proper cause exists for the issuance thereof.” This provision has been interpreted to mean that individuals can obtain permits for limited purposes, such as hunting or target practice. However, the state law also says individuals can show “proper cause” to obtain a full concealed-carry license for self-defense only if they can demonstrate a “need for self protection distinguishable from that of the general public.” After a federal district court upheld the law in September 2011, the plaintiffs appealed to the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. On Nov. 27, a three-judge panel of the 2nd Circuit in Kachalsky v. County of Westchester affirmed the lower court and upheld the law. The plaintiffs sought to invoke the First Amendment’s presumption against prior restraints — laws that impose hurdles on speech-related activities, such as licensing laws. They argued that just as the First Amendment generally forbids the government from requiring anyone to obtain a license before speaking, the Second Amendment also should forbid government from making individuals obtain licenses before exercising their fundamental right to “keep and bear arms.” “We are hesitant to import substantive First Amendment principles wholesale into Second Amendment jurisprudence,” the appeals court panel wrote. The court recognized the Supreme Court drew analogies between the First and Second Amendments in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), in which the Court first ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms, as opposed to a collective right of maintaining a militia. “But it would be as imprudent to assume that the principles and doctrines developed in connection with the First Amendment apply equally to the Second, as to assume that rules developed in the Second Amendment context could be transferred without modification to the First,” the appeals panel reasoned. Furthermore, the appeals court noted that the New York law on issuing full-carry permits was not without standards. It was not an example of a law that vests government officials with “unbridled discretion” — a very negative term in First Amendment law — in deciding whether to issue or deny permits. Even though the appeals court rejected the prior-restraint concept, it did embrace analogies to other parts of First Amendment law. The court said the highest form of judicial review in free-speech law was reserved for the core types of speech the First Amendment was designed to protect – such as pure political speech — whereas a lesser form of judicial scrutiny is used to review restrictions on commercial speech (advertising). The panel reasoned that a higher form of judicial review should be reserved for restrictions on handgun ownership in the home as opposed to carrying a handgun in public."