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I have been going to Hague's for about a year now with my best friend who has a membership. Each member is allowed to bring a guest each time he comes to shoot, so I have been coming under his membership with him while he comes with me to my outdoor range I am a member at. Hagues is a relatively new range so everything there is new and pretty nice. Their selection of guns varies throughout the year. Sometimes its diverse and sometimes not so much. The staff at Hagues is not personable like I have experienced at other gun ranges throughout Southern New Jersey. I have felt more comfortable and welcome, walking into a shoe store more than at Hagues. My most recent trip has caused me to never want to go back to the range ever again. My girlfriend came with myself and my friend and watched us shoot while we were there. Before we finished I let her fire 5 rounds, 2 from my rifle and 3 from my pistol. At the end of the day after we left, they charged my friend a $25 guest fee for my girlfriend who just sat there quietly for the last hour. The range was not crowded at all and only had 2 other members there while we shot. I was shocked so went back in to ask why we were charged and they said that for my girlfriend to be even inside the range they would have to charge us the $25 fee. I am not sure if that is in the rule policy for members or not, but I chalked it up as I should have known better or possibly asked ahead of time and civilly paid the fee. What I cant be OK with is that $25 is quite a heft fee to have someone just watch us shoot on a day it's not busy at all. We have spent a decent amount of money here on a handgun and ammunition in 1000 bulk purchases on several occasions, I just dont agree with the need to nickle and dime someone when your charging .72 per round of 5.56 to members with their member discount when 5.56 goes for .30-40 easily anywhere else. Anyways this wasnt the only thing that I was displeased with. As my girlfriend was leaving she was struggling to hold some targets we brought and had trouble pushing open the door. And my friend was on the inside as he heard the staff making fun of her struggling with the door and laughing at her. I wasn't told of this until we left, which really confirmed my decision to never come back to this range. I just wanted to share this experience and see if anyone else has had a similar experience. I pride Hagues on their clean facility but their customer service and expensive prices are not something I can recommend them for. I hope this helps anyone else out in the future.

Natchezss has awesomeeee deals on g-code. Wayyy cheaper than g-code website. They call them eagle tactical system because of a contract eagle has with g-code but here is link. http://www.natchezss...l%252520Systems you can also search by brand "eagle tactical systems" and then look under holsters, GHS, OSH, and holster accessories. Also another brand I wanted to point out for strictly CCW purposes which I find to be the best is http://crossbreedholsters.com. The G-Code is a mix between a concealed and a range/combat holster. It's we were issued in the Marine Corps.

i like g-code a lot and also raven concealment. u should check them both out

Wow thats a ridic deal. I search high and low always for .40 deals and best price im getting usually is .33 a round for 0-500 rounds and around .30-.32 for 500-100. That deal is lookin at .27 cents a round!

i think they look bad ass. I just sold a glock 23 gen 3. If nobody bought it I was a few days away from getting it duracoated in FDE. I like the dark dark FDE tho, not those lighter sand shades

Also the standard is 7rounds for your Kimber mags or most stock mags, but with these Wilson's u can fit 8rounds in there same size. I would recommend asking to make sure it's 8rd. Can always use that extra round

Off hand I'm not sure actually.. Might be newer model. The 37D been around for a while and are a standard but they always improving. Maybe a baseplate change, spring change, follower. Plastic vs metal components. I'd say just call and ask them to tell you the difference. Then once they give u a price say you will call back and shop online. Google is your friend for mag purchases

Nobody ever said the gun wouldn't run dirty or without cleaning for 3,000 rounds lol.. Just bc it still works does that mean you should work the piss out of it?I have shot well over 100,000 rounds of 5.56 is only reason I take a strong opinion on this subject and consider myself a worth source of knowledge on it. Have you served in the military? I have and that's where my discipline of good weapons maintenance comes from. And it's the proper way to keep a gun going with minimal chance of malfunction. That's the whole purpose of weapons maintenance. If it takes you more than 1-2 minutes to fully disassemble you AR then you should get back to weapon fundamentals before your next day at the range. 10 minutes u can disassemble the weapon and clean all the parts I spoke of. U should be giving your weapons love. One issue that is a fact and undebatable is that excessive built up carbon is harder to remove then fresh minimal carbon. A scientist or some chemical nerd will tell ya that one. If ur doing 100-200 rounds u dont need a full bolt breakdown I said, but over that then yea you do. Especially if the gun is going to sit for a while. If you have nice things you should appreciate them especially when their reliability depends on that appreciation. You don't go beating the balls off your car that gets you to work everyday do you? It could handle it, but is it necessary to gun it at every light and slam ur breaks when it won't get you to work any faster. I mean most of us did that when we were ignorant kids, but we're adults now and I think a lot of the civilian firearm community has too low of a standard on firearms safety and maintenance.

good post. the 1/7 sometimes harder to come by. I like the 1/8, easily available in many barrels and gonna serve your ammo needs for range/hunting/defense purposes universally the best of all options.

Ehh Kimber mags are average but I think for same price or little more some wilson combats go a long way. I have had kimber mags not last as long as others. Wilson Combat 47d. best 1911 mag on the market in my opinion. 29-32$ you can find them for.

I agree with some of Griz, Breakfree CLP is hands down the most universal cleaner, lube, protectant on the market. It handles all tasks. I prefer it for cleaning and then i wipe everything close to dry and then I use a dry type cleaner that doesnt gather much dirt or sand like Militec. You should be cleaning your bore and chamber and bolt after EVERY use at the range. And after a decent clean job you will have residual solvent of CLP left on the gun in the parts that matter. You can than add additional light coat of a specific lubricant only formula like the one Griz speaks of or something like my recommendation of Militec. Bore and Chamber and bolt are most important parts to clean on an AR. You dont have to disassemble your entire bolt carrier group if your shooting say 100 rounds, but anything over that I certainly would. Also even if you just shoot 100-200 rounds and your gonna leave your gun sit for over 1-2 weeks until you shoot again then I would say take apart the entire bolt. You wanna store spot clean guns. Dont let carbon build up. Secondary parts to clean or at least lube are going to be other moving parts such as your charging handle, inside your buffer tube, etc. Carbon doesnt hit these spots as much but still of concern.

I read a huge article that already they only use air rifles and pistols and not traditional firearms. And that also half the gun competitions are using get this... laser pistols and that by end of the year all future olympic events will be laser based for shooting! Wtf

Wise words Anthony! I agree very much, its a danger really for them to get up on these open media forums and speak without much knowledge and influence opinions on serious matters so strongly. I never see our side preached or educated on ever tho, its frustrating that nobody wants to take a stand to just explain. Not even argue or debate, just explain and educate on the other side of things so those uneducated may be properly informed and misconceptions could lessen

I think 1,000 rounds per purchase is completely normal. And then for shooters with multiple weapons and who shoot often and are trying to save a buck that 5,000-6,000 isn't that far from normal. Granted I think we can mostly all agree we don't go out every weekend buying this much ammo. But many of us have fore sure made a purchase this large at least once for initial stockpiles. And then for our re-occurring weekly or monthly purchases are doing them around the 1,000 round mark. Just think if they offered quantity discounts for buying gasoline... people would not only be filling their tanks every purchase but filling 20 gas cans a time. There are far more important factors that should be discussed as to how the situation could be avoided in the future. Ammunition quantity purchase has maybe only 1 time EVER been a factor in gun violence in America in the last 20 years. And for that I would say the North Hollywood shootout where about 2,000 rounds were fired but that was also calculating the rounds the police fired as well. This kid could have bought 50,000,000 rounds and it wouldn't have contributed anymore to this shooting or 99% of shootings across this country. I would take a good guess that less 50-100 rounds are fired at the majority of every scene of extreme gun violence in the country. So ammo should just not even be a topic, a human being can only carry so much ammunition, use so much ammunition, and reload so much ammunition... if politicians are going to talk on the subject i just wish they used valid points of discussion and not talk out there a**. frustrates me!

AMAZING deals goin on right now at Botach. Im getting myself a Accupoint 3-9x for my savage 10 that I don't even have yet lol. Normally these scopes run about $1000, on sale for $711 and free shipping. I really wanted to get this one for my AR, but I can't really justify getting this for my AR and the 3-9x for my future long gun, when I already have an EOtech for the AR. I may try to get some use out of the 3-9x on my AR until the long rifle build comes complete but who knows. Anyways good luck man! Trijicon Accupoint 1-4x TR24-3g $711 http://www.botachtactical.com/trtrac130ri.html

It's $175 for just that meal plus more for your butter/sauces and sides. We only got one small appetizer bc we knew such a big meal was coming and 2 glasses of wine each. However I was not as fortunate as Shawn to be able to have room for desert. Was just too stuffed lol. Hit right over $300 out the door. On another note.... If you guys weren't aware right now Lobster is at the lowest price per pound since it was for the last 20 years. Average of $4.00-5.99 a pound at your grocery stores! Just last summer I was paying $12.99. Since the Surf and Turf is a prie fixed item and not a Market Price item I dont see that going down. But keep aware of market priced lobsters at restaurants, you could be surprised at the price. But it is actually is more economical right now with these prices to just get them pre-steamed/boiled at the grocery store and have a huge feast at home for under $100 and feed a family of 4.

I think statistics would not be good determining factors tho. Its not an isolated test environment where you can prove that cause A is directly related to effect B. Over thousands of factors influence crime, too many to determine if the spike or decrease in crime was influenced in a negative or even a positive way due to the law change. simple population increase raises crime for example

@Malsua, wow that awesome! Thank you for that, very informative. So it looks like 1990-1996 was when most of the states in the country changed into "shall issues". I would assume that a large majority of them still issued to most applicants regardless of their prior "may issue" status and just made the change since they were pro-gun states and mostly issuing anyways. That was probably the first time the issue even ever came to the courts or major politics and all the states that were going to change went and did so in a few big groups. Then the states that remained were those in which changing the law would be a more difficult issue. It was also at this time in which gun-violence in America became more public than ever, and strong oppositions towards the issue began to deepen amongst most of the may-issue states. The LA North Hollywood Bank shootout in 1997 and then Columbine Massacre in 1999. Then since 2003 there has been about 2 states that have made the change. 2003 Time frame and soon after is most consistent with current thoughts on gun control opposed to 1990-1996. So any progress since 2003 is going to be more significant progress.

@JFoster, and yes thats another one as of lately that is definitely a small step in the right direction for us. But as you say Mipafox, I don't have any hard facts on which states changed and when, I would love to be enlightened tho if you could inform us on which states were very very staunchly committed to "may issue" and changed. I joined the military at 18 and lived in North Carolina until about 2 years ago that's as far back as I have been concerned with this issue. But, when i refer to states that were a "May Issue" and did a "Complete Change" as you kindly quoted, I am not talking about midwest states that had the May Issue clause but still pretty much gave to a decent percentage of people. Im talking about states were "shall issue" basically means NO ISSUE or SLIM CHANCE ISSUE. I honestly don't think there have been that many of these states. Also when you slap a window of 20 years on anything, there is going to be lots of states that of course have changed gun laws or matter of fact any laws regarding anything and everything with a window that pig. So a window that big is sort of irrelevant. I dont think a state that changed their policy 20 years ago is in any way shape or form relevant to the political environment we are in now. States that have changed i would say in the last 5 years would be relevant to our case, and those i would suspect are VERY FEW. So a state doing so in this current environment is a sign of slight hope and definitely isnt going to be something thats ignored by decision makers. What they are going to ignore is the changes from states you speak of that happened 20 years ago, but not ones 1 year ago. and as a note, i may come off as hostile but i debate often and it's all in good debate. i dont do the whole flame crap

I think it is a major step in a long long journey for us in NJ. No state wanted to be the first of the "may issues" to do this complete change. Now that it's out of the way I think others may follow, and after some time NJ legislation will realize the world around them is in fact changing. I think MD breaking the ice and being so close to us Is definitely going to be part of the future arguments in favor of changing our state as well. And some may say it may not carry a huge impact, but it is impossible for politicians and judges to completely ignore. But there is still a long road ahead.

American Cut is one of my favorite restaurants in AC! Last week went and had the surf and turf for two. It's a 420z Tomahawk bone-in Ribeye with a 2lb Lobster. Place is top notch and I definitely recommend it as well as the other restaurants in Revel like Amada and Central. The clean/sophisticated atmosphere of Revel is unparralled in Atlantic City.

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welcome to the club

Nice collection tony, a gentleman always needs at least one leather banded watch!

Yea right on with that assessment Tony! And @Shocker, I absolutely love the Dial and face on that watch, what I love even more is the whole carbon fiber'esque look on the Quantam of Solace Planet Ocean. But the whole subdued "quantum of solace" writing in center of the sapphire crystal ruins it. I think they realized that with the Skyfall release and left that part out