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Wait.. now the hygrometer is telling me 59%.. maybe i should replace the battery. but in summary. basement not any worse than rest of whole house..

Right now its 75 degrees in the house. Humidity in the basement is 91%. Humidity on first floor is 95%. I do not have the AC running.. its raining. So in summary.. basement not any more wet than rest of the house..

Never really thought about it.. and i wouldnt say i have an above average mildew situation in the basement.. none of my tools have ever seemed to collect rust in my basement.. So when should i be concerned about my firearms down there? No, I do not keep them stored in a safe.. they are securely locked though. (please no thread drift to Vault storage issues.. please) Is firearms metals any more susceptible to rusting than a pair of pliers? (duh, obviously with my life on the line i'd want a better barometer than the pliers.. ha ha..) So please give me your insight on looking out for moisture concerns. Its a finished basement, I don't run a de-humidifier, its definitely not needed.. I guess I would like insight specifically to firearms storage and humiditiy issues. Do those basilica bags (spelling?) things really work if i put them in the cabinet?

I just read the bill online and I'm with Howard. I keep reading "permit to purchase handgun" in the driver license stuff Am i totally confused or do these guy think your P2P is some permanent thing you carry with you forever? And that's why they want it in the DL Could they have botched this so bad they don't even know what a P2P is ? I know you guys are drilling down in the embedded stuff but I can't get past the "permit to purchase" language in it

The ultimate combination would be the stick figure family followed by "baby on board" followed by NRA sticker

MIKELETS456: you misunderstood my wording.. you harped on the word CRINGE. i wasnt cringing about what our liberties are.. i'm 100% behind that.. i cringe when i saw the way it was used in the testimony yesterday.. Did you watch the testimony? Please let me know. I was cringing at the way our point was being put across.. it did not go well. I am cringing at the entire process. I cringed at other things too. I cringed when someone called a legislator a terrorist in the proceeding (or something to that effect they shut the mics off when it gets unruly) i am not cringing on "God Given Rights".. Do you want to win our battle with semantics or win this through understanding the enemy? And i don't want this thread to drift on the word "CRINGE". I merely wanted to clear up a misinterpretation by Mike of what i wrote.

I hesitate at even bringing this up because the last time someone mentioned it the thread went on fire. But I just cringed when I heard another speaker say "my god given right". I really believe it just alienates the politicos even more. They do not and will never believe that these laws remove the 2nd amendment. The only comments that even get a pause out of them is real life examples like the gentleman who was the airline mechanic. Or the gentleman who said he was waiting 150 days for his permit. (but I get it. I wasnt in attendance so my opinion matters less).

I can't get the 9mm to come up. Was it only 40 and 45?

RIK. There's so many new gun owners on the forum and they have no ammo to shoot. You want them to not buy anything?

oh....i thought this thread was about a hooker you would use if the SHTF..

I prefer to highlight the positives of the show: Started with dentist marksman Almost every range shot had more women than men in it No Feinstein Only quote from LaPierre was a good one Full explanation of evil features Woman shot in movie theatre doesn't support gun ban Again. More women shooters Repeated reminder the rifle just looks badass How many are in public now

The guy hosting it is a pretty progressive guy as far as his businesses reporting goes. But obviously we can never know what his personal feelings are My bet is half the piece is in the popularity and functionality of it and the "don't dictate to me what I can use". And the other half will be the lethalness of the rifle and the antis asking why it's needed in suburbia

I think the Action Shooters thing is 50 if "they are able to get the gun themselves". Otherwise it's the cheaper. So if you are transferring a Moss 500 you pay full price.

okay i found a video.. in the first ten seconds each SWAT team guy has that unique butt stock as they walk up the steps.. THEN at the 40 second mark is when i saw the shorter barrels and the tinier mags.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bdpxbq-qIM and yes, to all those who say an AR is "all around better" than the pistol caliber stuff listed above.. i hear ya 100%.. i was just curious about alternative rifle types. But thank you immensely for your knowledge.

Okay, we can put this thread to bed now.. i INCORRECTLY ASSUMED that each time i saw a photo of a rifle slung tight across the chest aiming down that that was a one point sling.. upon closer review it could be two point. I'm just a newb who thought two point was slung over the back all the time. Case closed.. thanks to all for the invaluable insight.

Like the mayor would rather have an empty furniture warehouse in that building? He should be praising any business in there.. And especially a state of the art training facility

Waiting to hear info about the firefight at the boat. Obviously a lot of rounds flew but would like to hear if he shot first or was just hiding the whole time. (no not trying to incite anything here. Just curios we have details about the SUV firefight)

Don't know if anyone cars. But over the last 3 months Dicks stock price is down about 3 percent and Cabelas is up Ten percent. Actually Cabelas was up 25 percent just prior to a couple of days ago and ironically it went lower after the congress votes failed.

All great info guys. I'm loving all the scenarios you are coming up with. I have to ask this dumb question now. Obviously the one point hangs vertical muzzle down flat against your chest. Now, when I think two point sling for rifle or shotgun I think of the resting position being slung over the shoulder across your back Can someone give me a visual how the two point hangs on you when you quickly transition from shotgun to pistol or from shotgun to an evasive maneuver. Do you fling to back or keep in front ? I appreciate all the feedback Some day I will take an urban shotgun course

Ummm. My "tactical" assessment on one point slings is based on 350 swat team and ATF officers yesterday all using one point slings in their rifles. Hence my orig post that one point slings were tactical for rifles I wondered why not for shotguns. All the answers above were great. I just wanted to answer your inquiry

think i found a pic.. can't say if its exact.. .. the one on the left.. http://www.google.co...ml%3B1024%3B611 no.. it wasnt the GSG 522.. i know what that one looks like..

Well of course i meant if NJ neutered.. what i meant was are they manufactured specifically for LEO.. or are they banned by name.. etc etc.. things like that.. i just don't hear that type of weapon mentioned much..

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Color copiers are so great nowadays. Make a copy and have it laminated. Looks exactly like orig. I keep my orig in safe place and bring my copy when I travel with the guns NOTE: I AM NOT ENDORSING ANY KIND OF FORGERY. I'm just saying I think it's a good idea to carry a copy. Just like a passport or drivers license

and are those Jersey legal?