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It looks like it was the last item on their agenda.

You can very easily use the NRA ILA link to contact your NJ Assembly Representatives to show your opposition to ACR117/ACR205 which will reject Christie's changes to justifiable need: https://act.nraila.org/composeletters.aspx?AlertID=1410 The vote is scheduled for today Monday December 19, 2016 at 13:00

You can google Middlebrook Firearms: http://www.middlebrookfirearms.com/

As long as the firearms are unloaded and locked you are OK (and it doesn't really matter if you are going to the range as long as you are legally allowed to travel to your destination).

That would be to SCOTUS which really needs a pro 2A Trump ninth justice.

There is a much "easier" way. First publish you real name, home address, and telephone number. Second publicly call out one of the gang bangers that is not currently in prison and tell him why he is pond scrum (it might be tough to find a publication that he reads though). Third: wait until he personally threatens your life. Fourth apply for a NJ carry permit and in a few months you will have it. At that point you probably had better move far away to PA. Oh if you had done that first you wouldn't have had to do the other stuff. Oh well.

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A few of questions: Is this gun for home defense, conceal carry (probably not in NJ), range use, competition use, protection against bears? Also what size hands do you have and what is your overall strength? For example if this is for home defense and you are set on a .45 the G21 might be better than the G30 (heavier to mitigate recoil more). Any of the Glocks are some of the most reliable guns and I would agree with GRIZ that the G19 is an excellent first gun. As GRIZ also said the 9mm is one of the least expensive centerfire cartidges and that will add up if you spent a decent amount of time at the range.

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For an excellent update and sobering inside look on this and the newest anti-gun bills from Trenton check out the latest Gun For Hire podcast: http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/84439-gfhr289-bach-and-goens-discuss-national-ccw-nj/

Excellent update. Thanks Anthony, Scott, and Darin.

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I saw that but I thought that it was "only" the AG's statement which could change and had not been adopted by the NJSP. A court ruling would end the issue (at least for use in our homes). Has anyone tried to purchase one yet?

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Second Amendment challenge to New York state stun gun ban https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/12/07/second-amendment-challenge-to-new-york-state-stun-gun-ban/?utm_term=.8affecbeea72&wpisrc=nl_volokh&wpmm=1 A law suit was filed that challenges New York's stun gun ban based on second amendment issues. The filing is here: http://14544-presscdn-0-64.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/New-York-sued-in-federal-court-over-Taser-ban.pdf The suit cites Heller, McDonald, and the more recent Caetano v. Massachusetts decision. If NY falls then maybe NJ will be next.

Exactly what I was trying to say. They could legislate that no one could carry within 1000' of any park for example which would have the effect of severely reducing the ability to carry (if not eliminating it in some areas). They could include a 1000' zone around any school bus routes or for that matter just change the 1000' to 10000'. Loretta will not go quietly and if she could only save one life it would be worth it to her (lol). I think ultimately the courts will get involved and hopefully free NJ.

I think we are all on the same side here. My personal opinion (that's all it is) is that NJ will legislate around this law if and when it gets passed. For sure it is worth a try, I am not arguing with that. My hope is for the 9th justice on the Supreme Court.

May an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA in any State? https://www.atf.gov/questions-and-answers/qa/may-unlicensed-person-acquire-firearm-under-gca-any-state "Generally, a person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State. Exceptions include the acquisition pursuant to a lawful bequest, or an over–the–counter acquisition of a rifle or shotgun from a licensee where the transaction is allowed by the purchaser’s State of residence and the licensee’s State of business. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes." NJ requires that you and the seller fill out a COE. http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/sp-634.pdf

Doesn't NJ consider justifiable need as the lawful purpose? I am guessing I have more likelihood of moving to PA to carry than waiting for NJ to give in to this!

A video with NC Congressmen Hudson: GOP Lawmaker Betting on Trump to Push New Concealed Carry Law http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2016/12/07/gop-lawmaker-betting-on-trump-to-push-new-concealed-carry-law.html "The lawmaker behind the bill, Rep. Richard Hudson (R-NC), joined the FOX Business Network’s Stuart Varney to discuss how the proposed National Concealed Carry Reciprocity Bill would work." “It would work just like a driver’s license,” he said. “If a state has concealed carry, then what it says is you recognize the concealed carry right and you have to follow their laws.”

One of the reasons for the School Zone signs is to make everyone aware when they are in a school zone. The interstate commerce line was to meet the Supreme Court overturn of the original act which didn't have this in it. On a practical level I don't know how many people get charge with this. One of the exceptions is that you have to be aware you were in a school zone and as long as you have a state issued carry permit you can ignore the 1000 foot rule within the state that permit was issued in. The 1000 foot rule also has an exemption if the firearm is locked and unloaded. This law should be removed as it serves zero purpose other than to get law abiding citizens to worry about it (well I am not sure how many worry about it). Interestingly the law has no exception for off duty police officers. The following is a short discussion of the issue: THE VERY REAL LIMITS ON CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY: THE PROBLEM WITH GUN-FREE SCHOOL ZONES http://crimeresearch.org/2016/03/the-very-real-limits-on-constitutional-carry/ "....But Federal law clearly hasn’t caught up with the Constitutional Carry movement. The problem is that the Federal Gun Free School Zone Act prohibits firearms of any kind within 1,000 feet of a school ground, and not the center of the school, but the edge of the property...."

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/44/921 18 U.S.C. § 921 : US Code - Section 921: Definitions (25) The term "school zone" means - (A) in, or on the grounds of, a public, parochial or private school; or (B) within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public, parochial or private school.

I am not sure how this would work in NJ: "..... in any other state that permits residents to carry a concealed firearm, in accordance with the restrictions of that state." NJ considers justifiable need as a requirement so it is unknown if another states permit that doesn't require justifiable need would be valid in NJ. It still is short of the 60 votes required in the Senate to pass.