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I live in Sussex county, local pd told me 6 month wait, I'm on week 8 now, I really hope it doesn't take that long though the secretary told me to call her back in a month to see where I am Something needs to be done about this

Don't you need a license though to carry on Dover county, open or concealed

Maybe nj2as can print some flyers or something we can hand out to inform people what's going on

Wrong, since PA and UT have reciprocity a resident of PA must have a license from PA before getting a license from UT under UT law

They can refuse to sign a written agreement and if they do they will stay in a statutory agreement

So every time I get pulled over an officer will be allowed to search my car for his safety since I own a firearm This is ridiculous

It means we're screwed, the courts has failed us, 3rd circuit will probably rule inline with the 2nd and fourth Not that surprised, scotus is more politically now and days

You think she cares about what happens in the rest of the state, she only cares about what happens in Philly and keeping people from carrying in Philly As another person pointed out she can easily send a written agreement to Utah, the only hope we have of carrying under a Utah is having their ag refuse, idk if their ag is pro gun but I hope he is because if he refuses they'll stay on statutory agreement

I'm praying they take the case

Quick list of licenses that are stilled honored in PA that non residents can get, feel free to add in if I missed something Utah- fairly simple, GFH had the class and basically takes care of everything for you. NEW Hampshire- must have a license from any other state then they'll give you a non resident license, application seems easy but NH might be next on AG list as a PA resident can get their license without having a PA license Texas- you can mail in the application but you need to perform I believe a 10 hour safety course, ETA- safety course must be taken in Texas, but same as NH might be next on the AG list for same reason as NH Idaho- you can mail in your application but from what I read you have to pick up the license in person, idk if this has changed North Dakota- must take their safety course which is only available in ND Mississippi- might be able to mail theirs in, their wording is confusing, states- residency requirement may be waived, provided the applicant possesses a valid permit from another state, is active military personnel stationed in MI, or is a retired LE living in MI, idk if that means you must be in the military stationed in MI as they all seem like separate requirements

Quick list of licenses that are stilled honored in PA that non residents can get, feel free to add in if I missed something Utah- fairly simple, GFH had the class and basically takes care of everything for you. NEW Hampshire- must have a license from any other state then they'll give you a non resident license, application seems easy but NH might be next on AG list as a PA resident can get their license without having a PA license Texas- you can mail in the application but you need to perform I believe a 10 hour safety course, ETA- you must take the safety course in Texas, but same as NH might be next on the AG list for same reason as NH Idaho- you can mail in your application but from what I read you have to pick up the license in person, idk if this has changed North Dakota- must take their safety course which is only available in ND Mississippi- might be able to mail theirs in, their wording is confusing, states- residency requirement may be waived, provided the applicant possesses a valid permit from another state, is active military personnel stationed in MI, or is a retired LE living in MI, idk if that means you must be in the military stationed in MI as they all seem like separate requirements

Pretty dumb imo, don't want to make her aware that NJ residents are carrying in PA with Utah licenses

As of right now any state that falls under the statutory agreement is your best bet, as these can't be changed by the AG because they're not in a written agreement, I'm just worried she'll drop reciprocity with them by claiming their laws are different then possibly get into a written agreement with them to change it to the way she likes Easiest one to get is Utah, you can get North Dakota but you have to take the training in their state, you can mail in your Idaho but you must pick up the license in idaho, I'm still a little confused on Mississippi by their wording but those are the only statutory licenses available all others don't give out non residents

That would require changing the law, which the current legislation will never do, the AG is doing what she has power to do and that's just changing reciprocity agreements

Bloomberg endorsed this liberal, I wonder how much he's enjoy watching all of this as it happens, remember she got elected because of him so now she basically has to do what he tells her, I wouldn't be surprised if she found a way to make PA may issue or more likely make Philly like NYC where you can only carry in Philly with a Philly license, that's her ultimate goal

Also she isn't targeting all PA residents just Philly residents, remember the whole Florida loophole started in Philly because Philly tries to make their own laws and deny almost everyone they can under the character clause and instead of getting a lawyer and paying a ton of money to fight the denial they just get a Florida or Az or even a Va because before they didn't need a PA license to get those

This is the way I see it, I'm just hoping its true, as of right now your best bet is to get any statutory 2 license, under that list Utah is the easiest but I believe its possible to get Idaho, North Dakota and maybe Mississippi, though I believe you have to be present in those states to get a licence from them

(15) Any person who possesses a valid and lawfully issued license or permit to carry a firearm which has been issued under the laws of another state, regardless of whether a reciprocity agreement exists between the Commonwealth and the state under section 6109(k), provided: (i) The state provides a reciprocal privilege for individuals licensed to carry firearms under section 6109. (ii) The Attorney General has determined that the firearm laws of the state are similar to the firearm laws of this Commonwealth. According to this can't she just end reciprocity with Utah, it gives her the power to determine which states have similar laws to PA

No but it explicitly says "if you're a resident of Arizona only" just like the the modified Florida agreement

Well if that's the case then were safe with Utah, like I said if you're a resident of PA you need a PA license before you can get a non resident Utah license, since nj and Utah don't have reciprocity we can still get the non resident Utah license without having to get an NJ one

Utah is a statutory agreement so if I'm not wrong I believe it will take legislative action to change it but nonetheless I believe the Utah loophole is closed already by utah, a resident of PA can't get a Utah license without having a pa license since the two state have reciprocity

What the title says http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/Firearm_Reciprocity_Notice_Arizona.pdf

Correct me if I'm wrong which I probably am but did they recommend an fid card with scanning capabilities that is directly linked to njsp to get rid of our paper trail system ie p2p, because if so I'm OK with a fid card with scanning capabilities and a picture if it gets rid of pistol permits

Well according to that nj will probably make it law that we're only allowed to buy ammunition from internet sellers who verify our identity and address and put the punishment on us if we try to purchase from an online seller who doesn't

I don't believe Christie will ban internet sells of ammunition based on their findings, seems like he'll require internet sellers verify address and identity, probably through faxing our new fid cards with our pictures and a copy of our license or other government issued identification with address and picture What do you guys think