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Offered in 9mm and .45 acp with a msrp of $579, will probably retail around $500. Looks interesting...

and time. Can take years to work it's way up the food chain.

Merry Christmas All!

Isn't there a 7-day waiting period from when you apply for a permit to when you can purchase? It doesn't come into play when the permits take longer than that to get, but say you got a permit on the spot. Wouldn't you still need to wait?

Nope - that was a major backpedal...

How about a Sig 220 in .45?

While I agree the recommendations don't help much if at all, I read the report as a positive step. It validates every major point we've been trying to make. Reasonable Deviation, Unreasonable Delays and Additional Requirements in permitting and Justifiable Need are all called out as being problems in the implementation of NJ law. The report also mentions the strong (IMO) possibility that justifiable need would not survive scrutiny. Given the circumstances, I think the report itself is a win. Christie will only be able to claim victory if he actually addresses some of the findings. That's where I think much of this will go nowhere. But I can hope...

now THAT was funny.

I get the same 404 error trying to access the tpath and sappa sites but can read the Dec 7 letter. That seems to be linked to a different domain.

The phrase "Justifiable Need" is legislated, the definition of it is open to interpretation and opinion. I'm not aware of any court case that sets the definition, so the Admin Code is the default until such time as a court ruling exists. IANAL, but I believe the AG could issue a clarification to support "Self Defense" or "All Lawful Purposes" as meeting the justifiable need threshold, but then the AG would be in a position to defend that in court if a judge decided to deny a CCW based on a different definition - and I don't see that happening.

I find this officer's conduct to be beyond bad, but I'm having a hard time seeing how he gets held accountable. His attitude fits the narrative with regard to firearms - the legislature, his local LE community, the press, the courts, etc. "They" don't see a problem with his reasons as long as it's keeping the status quo. About the only thing I see him taking heat for is being dumb enough to allow himself to be recorded saying it. I agree with the approach, but now that the recordings are out there good luck getting any anti-PD to talk openly. The only way to get an answer soon will be a FOIA request. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, at least the rest of the country might see what could happen if they don't pay attention.

Could that be the reason? incorrect address?

If you're considering Sigs and want .45acp, also look at the p227. Best way to describe it is a double stack p220. Otherwise has the usual Sig controls and feel.

I wonder how long it took for her local PD to issue her P2P...

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There are counterfeit certified checks out there...

On the surface the article seems factual, but I question the intent. What is the author trying to accomplish? As a group we know these guys and they all seem like nice folks. To the ignorant though, do they now have targets on their back? Look at the comments if you want to cringe. Wonder how long it will take for protests to start out front of their houses? Will Sweeney propose outlawing protests since they're in residential neighborhoods?

No idea if it will even be read but I sent this note to the NRA-ILA through the web contact form: "I write this note to urge the NRA-ILA to take an active role in communicating the activities of a well-organized and prepared grass-roots effort to bring NJ into compliance with the 2nd amendment. While there have been many thwarted attempts in the past, the efforts of SAPPA-TPATH are taking the fight in a new direction - notably to Federal Courts - and bring to NJ citizens the same rights available to those in other states. There is not enough space here to list the reasons why I feel the NRA should be involved, or for me to detail the effort, though I urge you to review the materials at the SAPPA group web site www.tpath.org/sappa.html. NJ NRA members are watching, and a visible response from the NRA is expected. Thank You."

I'm wondering if it would also help for us to write contact the NRA as members, requesting they help. I'm aware the NRA was notified of this, but maybe some prodding by members will help get them off their butts? Are there other groups we could include?

Anyone find any in Somerset County? The cheapest I can find it is $4.99.

Is there such a thing in NJ any more? Haven't seen one of those in a long time. From what I understand the EPA and NJ Environmental regs put them all out of business.

I did it for 2 years, and it was the worst of my career. My office was located in Jersey City but I needed to be in Downtown twice a week. Drive 78 to just outside the Holland Tunnel, park in the Newport Mall garage. Walk to my office. Then hit the PATH station to 33rd street, hop on the B,D,F,N Subway up to 44th I think. I needed to leave home at 5:30 am just to not get crushed in Traffic, would get to my desk by 7:00. Then another hour to get into the city depending on how packed the PATH was. The ride home was similar - 1 1/2 - 2 hours if I was in the city, about an hour from JC. Was a 13-14 hour day with the commute. You couldn't pay me enough to ever do that again.

I've used their .45acp reloads successfully but I had problems with their .357 reloads. Wouldn't chamber correctly in my GP100. They made it right once I returned them but it was a hassle. Haven't used them since.

If you're trying to compare a 1911 with a sig, a better choice would be the p220. Very similar on paper except for the whole SA DA thing...

I learned a long time ago that it's not the tools, it's the mechanic. Great pic as always.