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It's not idealism. I don't subscribe to democracy and legal precedents, like Bach and all these other people do, painfully agonizing every detail and eventuality. What lawsuit can we start? Which politician's ass do we have to kiss today? How can we convince more voters to think like us? This is all a waste of time. I deal in chaos and hypocrisy In 2009 a few punk 20 somethings with no money recorded a few offices of a goliath non profit with unbelievable political power. The president of the United States was an attorney for them, and the country was dominated by a democratic legislature. Months after the videos were released, the content was so damning and controversial, even the president and said congress had to defund it. They had no choice. Never in anyone's wildest dreams would that have happened You can bring any system to its knees. Just make them live up to their own book of rules as Alinsky dictated. My recipe of activism would have carry in NJ yesterday if enough people were in people's faces crying foul of the right things-- again, not guns or rights, but racism and sexism. Think black lives matter, not the constitution. Stop thinking democracy and courts, start thinking the war on women These videos already sparked a flaccid commission that did nothing. What if the commission was proven to be impotent? (Which it is?) as long as Christie has something to lose (a primary soon enough, or future federal appointment) he has to watch his image. Just introduce a little anarchy to it People think too derivatively about these things. Sandra Cunningham and Loretta Weinberg can't have news reporters shoving cameras in their faces asking them why they hate black people or women by victimizing them with our gun laws. If you want to help, start recording your individual departments and get the content to us. The drum beat continues

People who support a document that boasts that justifiable need is now harder to overturn aren't my friend. They are the enemy. We aren't here to make friends. We are here to embarrass and get results

Simultaneous with its release, he said he agreed with its findings in most articles and hoped the AG would expedite some sort of action Saying purchase permits and FIDs have to be "expedited" is the same as saying you have to turn over those permits in 30 days. Look how often that gets followed. Never If there is no demonstrable CONSEQUENCE/PUNISHMENT for law enforcement for FAILING to abide by this law, why would to you think anything would change due to this commission? We already have a law that says 30 days and police wipe their ass with that I'm working with people who are being told by detectives "how dare you ask for it in 30 days- do you want us to give guns to criminals!!! You must be a criminal too!!" This is the attitude they take - constant excuses. We have a person who has waited 14 months (his video coming out soon) and the detective on tape says "I don't know why it isn't done" as if to say it isn't his fault even though he's the one processing them!! Remember, they type your name in a database and hit enter. The results are virtually instantaneous. These scumbags are just LAZY and are spitting in your face metaphorically by suggesting YOU'RE the asshole for demanding it in 30 days. What the hell do you think some no-punishment directive is going to do to change that? Now, if we can sue the department because the commission says any permit not returned within 30 days will lead to fines administered on the chief, or him being fired after 2-3 violations, now we're talking!! Watch how fast those permits suddenly get done. But that didn't happen! That's why nothing will change if there is no consequence. They will continue to lie to us and talk to us with the despicable contempt we already have documented Please- we need people recording these instances and contacting me. Let me know how I can help

It's really quite easy- you just go in and literally repeat what you already have felt comfortable saying to them. It may seem weird but it's what's necessary to document their abuse, and until we document it, it doesn't exist and no one believes you. But no one can argue with video there is nothing illegal about it. You are being recorded without your consent in every police station. As mentioned by another sharp poster above, NJ is 1 party consent. As long as you know the camera in your pocket is running, it's OK

How are you people not insulted by his obfuscation of the truth in his quote: "what I have done recently is to make sure that we’re making it easier for folks to be able to get a permit in New Jersey because they deserve the right to do that as law-abiding citizens.” 1. He has not executed any orders whatsoever. He just agreed with the commissions "findings" 2. Nothing in that commission, in any tangible way, shape, or form, is going to make it "easier" for anyone to carry or purchase weapons. The commission rather concluded the recommended changes actually CEMENT justifiable need making it harder to overturn So carry will never happen, and they still have not outlined ANY consequences for law enforcement who fail to abide by our bullshit 30 day rules This is disingenuous campaign obfuscation at its worst. He's blatantly lying. He hasn't done anything. Period. Our lives in regards to buying guns or applying for carry permits will not improve one iota due to this commission and its findings. Stop repeating Scott Bach mindlessly. Instead of parroting him, read the actual report instead in its entirety, like I did, and recognize they celebrated justifiable need is now here to stay. This is nothing but Christie placating those attacking his 2A cred with a flaccid maneuver and repeating over and over how much he did to the point where you start repeating it Ask the hundreds of people still on months 3-24 that we are working with still waiting for their permits. Enough said

Forget ANJRPC. They will just congratulate Christie and say NJ is in great shape I am the person making the videos of everyone's delays for nj2as. We have several more we are working on releasing PM me and i will embarrass your police department. You have to record yourself going in and ask again why it's being delayed several months, then again ask to speak to the chief and record them refusing. If you had recorded what you just described, I'd have your permit in your hands right now Go record them, just repeat the same exact questions, and then transfer the video over google drive to me. We are not revealing anyone's identity's/ names. Please follow up with me and I will help you to the best of my ability. You'll have your permit days after we release it to our thousands of members and hundreds of media contacts nationwidE. Nj2as is actually being cited in the NH statehouse tomorrow and Alexander is making an appearance there to highlight these issues Nothing is as effective at getting results than these videos Sincerely, get it done and reach out to me

We are doing what we can behind the scenes to create the chaos and establish a damning narrative. The more people are willing to help with documenting our reality, the more Christie will have to respond to and rectify those situations. Or conversely, if we can demonstrate his commission report is totally flaccid and didn't really change the behavior of police permitting timeframes (which it won't) the more embarrassment you can heap on him We showed the country what happens behind the curtain. He responded with an underwhelming, minuscule change to our laws. Let's show the country again how his show of force and call for action in that commission report are impotent and symbolic. We all know permits will still take months in most towns, we all know carry is still no issue. If we can undermine the report, he has another problem on his hands, particularly with those New Hampshire groups who already aren't fond of him. It's not pat on the back time. it's so incredibly timely and important to show what a crock that entire gesture with the commission report truly was.

No offense taken. I just recognize a reality I see in front of me. I see no reason to take the foot of the gas. Why should we not hammer him? He was agreeing with the laws we had until literally the day before he announced his presidential campaign. Then when he promised this commission, he was silent on it for six months, until miraculously they directly cited content that embarrassed him and shattered the narrative that everything is OK with our laws. Those videos are irrefutable evidence of the hell we endure, a black mark on his record. He knew those things were going on, and didn't care until the videos were put in front of him in black and white. Don't you guys see that? Six months for this commission, and the things he has cited in the report were released literally the 2 weeks before its release. Do you guys just believe in incredible coincidence, or is there a reason it happened that way? It's not about "alienating". I say this now respectfully- activism is not about asking permission from government. It's not about petitioning government. It's about causing direct action that forces the government to respond to US. That's what those videos were, and that's the type of response they cause. It's not alienating- damning content makes Christie, his legislators, and his police departments look bad. The more you hammer him, the more he has to respond. People are acting like he's a "friend" to 2A. He's just saying and doing what a strategist is calculating for him. But we can control the world and reality put in front of the media that he will have to respond against. Taking it "easy" on him will not make him "go faster" in our desired direction. You have to make him confront the reality of our state, and defend it to donors and supporters on the national stage. Again, he was a vocal supporter of our laws "on the books" every year, magically, until this campaign. Wouldn't logic dictate that when his campaign ends, he will revert back to the status quo mentality he publicly exalted until about June 2015? Why is the opinion here that once his campaign is over, he will suddenly do even MORE for us? This psychology is baffling to me. And another thing people aren't realizing. I don't care who is governor next - if we magically achieved carry before Christie leaves , it's then very hard politically for even a democrat governor and legislator to reverse it. Doesn't matter that they don't like it- the optics of doing that is tough to swallow and looks incredibly tyrannical. Name one state that has opened up to carry in the last 30 years, and then has reverted to a carry ban. I can't think of one. It's not a palatable political move. Once your populace is armed by the thousands and walking the streets with weapons, it's a tough PR pill to swallow to stand at a statehouse protected by armed state troopers and countdown to your carry ban. We have a slim window to push this envelope. I highly discourage any mentality that calls for easing up on Chrisite. This is a sprint, not a marathon, and his time is almost up

Episode was a joke. Bach filibustered 4 of the 5 segments. The only segment with questions were constantly pushed aside as "already being answered". First of all, stop giving Christie credit for vetoing bills. That's what he's supposed to do. You sound like a father asking for a pat on the back for feeding his children. Let's not forgot he vetoed a bill he himself was originally proposing !!! He was behind the band on 50 cal originally. STOP PRAISING HIM http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/gov-christie-announces-plan-for-curbing-gun-violence/ Stop kissing his ass!! For years he agreed countless times on the record he supported the laws we had on the books because we live in a "densely" populated state. Enough of making him sound like some hero The commission report: means shit. Unless the directive from the AG's office is "every police chief whose department fails to accept or deny a permit within 30 days is fired" then this was a failure. no consequences= no change in behavior from the scum who keep delaying us. How stupid are you guys who are taken by this interview? Bach is always vague and nebulous, as if he knows so much that we don't. Acting like we are too stupid to understand his lofty calculus. What I do know is Christie's last term is almost up and we are ostensibly no better off than we were under Corzine. This comes down to his self promotion and his tantalizing "inside" knowledge he always claims to have but can't share. Big things are always around the corner and we have to wait patiently. Well, Christie is almost gone. You are a 6 figure earning, non profit executive protecting your position, your org, and your political connections. I know your world and it's clear what is happening. Stop praising Christie. He will be gone and the next governor is going to shit in your mouth and not care about you. I have the complete opposite view of Bach. He thinks Christie is the second coming, so we should treat him with kid gloves because he's "doing us a favor". Quite the contrary, he's a sorry sack of shit that wants to be president, and only will be around for a short time longer while he clings to that ambition, so our window to smack him to get what we need is getting shorter and shorter. Bach answers his own questions and then ignores it - he admits he wasn't " doing anything" for us until recently. It's singularly and precisely because he is running for president. If it wasn't for that, he wouldn't have wasted two seconds of his time with this commission. He waited 6 years to take a minuscule step, and you guys are clapping like seals. You should have the total opposite mentality- we should be hammering the shit out of him senselessly, because once he drops out of that primary, he has ZERO reason to pretend to pander to us anymore. Then say hello to Sweeney, game over Embarrassing the governor during his precious campaign causing pressure from outside the state is the only route to substantive change at this point. You better all pray that douche lasts as long as he can in this primary, because once he's out, our leverage is gone. Then maybe Bach will have another vague and tantalizing surprise to tease us with when he starts rubbing Sweeney's back As I've said countless times, the enemy should be getting recorded every chance we get, and it should be broadcasted online. So that people hate Christie for what he is allowing to transpire in our state.

This is where, at least in NJ, you are incorrect. And this topic divides many people because they don't want to be perceived as "anti police" The reality is- while the police did not write the laws, in NJ, they take the liberty of abusing the laws AS written outside their authority. That's inexcusable, and while that happens, they are your enemy. That's an uncomfortable statement to read, but until people wake up and realize this reality, we won't help ourselves Look at our pathetic state. I can name you countless people who wait over a year for a permit, and only get it after harassing the Chiefs endlessly. That's fucking tyranny. I want those same cops intentionally neglecting to process permits to have their carry privileges revoked any time they have a pending permit sitting in their possession. Why are their lives more valuable than ours? Why is it ok for them to abuse us? They have no legal obligation to protect you. They are in fact protected if you die during a home invasion, and a responding officer decides he doesn't want to enter the home where you're being held captive. They get the best of all the worlds. They're armed to the teeth, they have no duty to protect us, and they have zero consequences for endlessly delaying and denying our rights for whatever reason they choose. When someone waits a year for a permit, there is no word short of evil to define their attitude. Pure and simple. They have contempt for you as a citizen that they don't care to address your permit in that kind of time frame. You are a subject to them, and they throw lies and excuses as to why they haven't gotten your permit done. Wake up and smell the coffee. They may have not written the laws, but they are 100% part of the problem. That's why these videos were effective in demonstrating this attitude and hit a nerve. You have to attack those abusing these issues non stop , it stands to illustrate that this problem is real, tangible, visceral. Especially for people who don't live in this state- it's eye opening to them and shows what can come their way if they aren't careful. This is why in principle it's unacceptable to be satisfied with a 30 day period (which means jack shit and they still take a year if they choose to because they have zero liability) Nothing is stopping police from processing permits in 5 days, barring the 0.01% of times some snag actually happens with a background or mental health check (every time they say they haven't gotten them back weeks into your application, they are unequivocally lying) I would be shoving cameras in every detective's face demanding my rights to both apply for ccw and purchase permit, documenting every step of the way and blasting it online for the world to see. I would be antagonizing every single one of them until they realize they are being held publicly accountable for their actions. I would then be sending women and minorities into the offices of scumbags like Weinberg and asking why she supports black genocide in our inner cities by disarming black citizens in her district. Make it emotional, make it racial. They can ignore bearded "rednecks" quoting the constitution like idiots. They can't ignore black activists calling them racist. Do you see how this game is supposed to be played? The police are not here to protect us. The overwhelming majority don't give a shit about you. And if you ever hear a cop say otherwise in this state, tell them to stand publicly on camera in uniform calling out our governor and our representatives for oppressing their fellow citizens with justifiable need clauses. Tell them to call publicly for carry for all while reciting their badge number. They will be quick to judge this post "anti cop", and then slow to put their name and badge on the line for their convictions. Until every one of these conversations at our local stations is documented and publicized, this movement won't gain legs. This is why the reaction of applauding the commission report is a joke. There was no consequence outlined for LEOs that fail to adhere to the 30 day standard. They merely will "crack down", which means they will continue to behave as they currently do. I mean this sincerely - record every interaction in every town you have at your local PD. PM me and feel free to share the content, and we will paint the narrative and spread it with identities protected / bleeped out. We need a catalog of this abuse to spark the change we desire Or...we could all go bowling or something. Your call

MIPA gets it. You push and push and push until something gives. No one is here for a drum circle. If you want adulation, be honest and start a social club. Don't start a 2A club that spends their time giving each other fancy titles, writing bylaws, and holding social events in the name of "getting the word out". No one cares, and it has no consequence. Consequences are the only thing that matters. Notice how none of those things gets us carry. It's all talk You need to be attacking the enemy 100% of the time and documenting their hypocrisy and making them live up to their own book of rules. If you aren't doing that, you aren't doing shit. There is no reason why everyone on this forum couldn't walk into their police station tomorrow and record themselves demanding a concealed carry application. 90% of them wouldn't even give you the application. Put out 50 videos of various departments not even giving you the application and you have a monumental problem for Christie. But no, you want tshirts, trade shows, and bowling. But I'm the jerk somehow, because I don't want to "get together" with these adult nerds and their little parties

There is no need whatsoever to be together. I'm likely the only person here with any experience in the political world beyond this state's boundaries In fact, the NRA has no desire to get together with anyone. There is a reason why they fundraise OFF of NJ instead of fighting offensively for it. There is a reason Bach kisses Christie's ass. No one here gets it because you aren't experienced in this world Nobody works together in politics or non profits. They take credit for things whenever possible while simultaneously disassociating themselves from any conflict to preserve relationships (see ANJRPC/NRA). This inane idea that a groups mission is to be friendly with our supposedly like minded groups is absurd. The only mission of a group should be to WIN- that means, expand our rights. Not talk about it, not meetings, not outings, not fundraisers, not playing on Facebook . No other bullshit. I don't care how many groups are out there. If I can point to a group's name and say "because Of their direct action, I now can do (x) in NJ that i couldn't before" then that group is legitimate. Pretty much none of those groups can I say that about, and half of them, as a poster here mentions, they've never even heard of. Point taken I'm not a champion of any one group. I despised and spoke against the recall Sweeney effort and told the leadership it was a waste of time. But these undercover videos are the first foray into actual meaningful activism that exposes the enemy and fired up our base I called years ago at a meeting for the entire membership to apply and get denied for ccw. That would have given more leverage and controversy to these undercover videos. But no one executed at the time under their leadership. The path to winning is offense. You need to attack from all sides and remove the pillars of their argument. Make it not a campaign of guns, but a campaign of race, gender, and disability. Show the tons of women getting denied carry permits. That emotional progressive bullshit is the language of the enemy, ergo it is the language we must speak in fighting them I remember back in 2013 these losers complaining they wanted to make tshirts and go to trade shows. They actively argued with themselves about the "titles" they wanted within the org. What the hell does that do? "Get the word out"? Who cares if people buy your $10 tshirts? You know what would get the word out? You showing a video of a black woman getting denied a gun permit and you pitting the NAACP against our own police departments and legislators. That's real accomplishment. And that will eventually win us carry. Not your dumb little trade show swag It amazes me how bogged down in self absorbed bullshit these groups get drawn into to the point where they do anything but actual activism. They get so obsessed with the image based stuff they forget their mission. And that was why a bunch of them left the nj2as back then when I was still going to meetings I say this. The people who want to win- get involved in the activism. If you want to join a social club and make tshirts, then have fun and go do that. Make sure you like them on Facebook too so they feel good about it. When we get carry, only one set of tactics will have gotten us there, but "everyone" will want to take credit for it whether they were responsible for it or not It's not my job to get together with people who are wrong and have an incorrect view on how to achieve our goals. My only goal is to win and have those who want to join me to join me. The rest can do whatever makes them happy.

I'm just sick of this madness. These undercover videos on the police are the only offensive activism happening in NJ in years. They are the only ones putting themselves out there and get paid $0 to do it. They are what's getting directly cited in the commission reports and garnering media attention and firing up a base of 2A supporters that are tired of rallies, petitions, and hearings. Meanwhile, a private for profit business, a women's social club, and a bunch of random losers who left nj2as because they weren't getting enough admiration for their endless and pointless diatribes steal a quote from an NJ2AS video, make tshirts out of it, use trademarked logos they don't own, and then lecture all those groups (as if they are all equals below them) to come together?? Who made them arbitors around here? Who are they to judge and boss people around? Would GFH like it if someone stole their logo and content? Probably not If you aren't attacking the enemy , you aren't doing shit. You're jerking off on Facebook with your little friends giving virtual high fives about petitions. If you want to kiss Trenton's ass and run to hearings to play defense and testify to asshole politicians who aren't listening to you, by all means go join the ANJRPC and their impotent, boot-licking efforts. If you want to join a women's social club who may be great at getting women to shoot but know jack shit about political activism, go join SAW. If you want to actually fucking win this fight, and wake up one day with more rights than you did the day before, then shut up and go record the scumbags that have their boots on our collective necks. Attack, attack attack The rest is bullshit talk

1. Who appointed them arbitors of such a discussion? If you've dealt with some of these people, you would know they have absolutely no idea how to cause effective change through offensive activism. 2. Some of these groups are a handful of jerkoffs who go bowling together for fun and do absolutely nothing but self congratulate each other on social networks. Adult nerds. Why are they even mentioned along these other groups? 3. Why do a few select groups get to decide that other select groups are being unresponsive or not "working together"? Since when is the goal of activism to "work together"? Half of these dolts don't know what they are talking about. The goal is to achieve quantifiable victories, like carry. Not have a kumbaya drum circle with morons who think they are activists who like to hear themselves talk I'm sick of seeing a bunch of grown men and women whine about credit for things, engage in pointless endeavors like petitions and protests, a bunch of losers. No one cares about that shit. The enemy needs to be defined, you need to isolate them, and attack them ruthlessly. Nothing else matters. I've never seen such a sad sack of loser groups raising their hand for attention. You have a very small minority of people actually engaging in enlightening activism, and then you have others stealing their work to make tshirts and chastising them for "not working together" A joke

Sure gets counted when you have a video tape of your interactions with your PD telling you you're rejected because your life has no value to them. Imagine a pregnant minority getting told that on tape in an inner city. The statists heads will explode. They won't know whether to cheer or be outraged. You hit them with their own book of rules

I'm not all over the place. I'm refuting the degree of which you think this will bring about substantive change on those three points If the police didn't care about he law before, why would they suddenly now? can you define how we "meaningfully" have an easier ability to achieve a carry permit as normal citizens? As for my ideas, I've said them for years. For one, I am the reason those videos are out there and have been scripting them behind the scenes. I have been calling for all 2A supporters to 1. Apply for their carry permits in mass numbers to quickly skew the rejection statistics in the opposite direction, while 2. Video recording every single damn interaction with law enforcement on the issue. This is getting news coverage giving visibility to our plight in a way talking doesn't. Video is visceral, it cuts through lies, and can't be ignored. If you had 200 of these videos the Nj2AS is putting out across the state, Christie would be so burned on the campaign trail he would have done anything possible to get rid of justifiable need The police have absolutely no duty to protect you, and no liability for failing to do their permitting job. It's our job to attack them and expose them for it, and that makes people turn into pussies because they fear police or being viewed as anti police The fact of the matter is, any police officer who who gets bent out of shape from all of this, should agree to stand next to NJ2AS and promise that they will grant every single carry permit going brought their police department, so that the blame can fall squarely on the judges (and we can attack them next. That's easy because they all have carry permits too) Until police departments are willing to do that, they are part of the problem and are to be attacked for their hypocrisy. They view their lives as being worth more than ours and are enemies of the second amendment they swore to protect Talk is bullshit. Get cameras in everyone's face. Watch the permit return times suddenly decrease. Watch the carry conversation become more uncomfortable when black people are denied carry permits in Newark, women are denied permits in Paterson- now you have a racial and gender issue on your hands Our enemies don't speak logic. They speak emotion and protected-class drivel. So let's speak their language and show them minorities getting hurt by our gun laws on tape Film everyone , all the time, or it didn't happen

You have to film yourself doing it. So you can document them not even letting you apply. Everyone should be filming every single interaction with law enforcement on this issue, or it will always be there word trumping yours. Look how the NJ2AS videos were directly cited in the report. This is the only way we can show the world how it really works here, no matter what decrees Christie casts down. Nothing in this report is going to change the permitting delays whatsoever, you watch. There is no consequence for them failing to do their job just like there wasn't before Film everything. Apply for carry? Film it. Applying for permits? Film it. If it isn't on tape, it didn't happen Then we can show bach and Christie what a crock of shit all of this is

In response to your three bullets. 1. Who cares when you can't step out of your car with that gun. Meaningless and you'll still be arrested by overzealous cops if they find out you have a weapon 2. I read the report front to back. What meaningful punishment did they decide would be cast upon law enforcement who fail to obey the time frames or who break the law with additional requirements? Absolutely none. They are just saying they will crack down. 30 days is already the law and they don't obey it. Why would this make them change? As long as government is an unnecessary intermediary to you exercising your rights, they will abuse that power. The police have no accountability to you, and Christie will not be governor one day. This in essence is meaningless lip service 3. Your definition of "meaningful" must be quite different than mine. I would say this is justifiable need continued but rephrased. I still have no ability to achieve a carry permit, and would have no recourse to unless I suddenly and publicly get nearly killed by mafiosos multiple times (and then I still might not get it) Fuck the ANJRPC. They have been kissing Christie's ass and I'm tired of their pandering. They could care less about winning, and instead are cozying up to authority. This report blatantly states that justifiable need is now harder to overturn in the courts because of the changes. Only a douchebag would celebrate the results of this report

This , by their own admission, makes justifiable need even harder to overturn in the future How someone finds this report to be a positive is spellbinding. It's a load of shit during campaign season, and those outside of NJ will read the headline not understanding the nuances and think "oh look, Christie is helping 2A" This is a joke. The governor lies and says he can't change things himself via order, but he can change "some " things? How is it he can change a few words around that essentially leaves us with the same restrictions, but he can't change around justifiable need to include self defense, when need itself isn't even defined? F Christie , and ANJRPC disgusts me with their handshaking and celebration. They just want to preserve their in with The governor. He will be gone in a few short years and wait and see what happens then

Part 4 has been released. Another town making it clear that may issue doesn't exist, in case there were still any doubters Many may say "isn't this obvious?" But its important for people to see a visceral and real interaction where repeatedly new Jerseyans are denied the ability carry

Multiple inquiries into the Orange mayor's office were met with silence both from citizens and from the press. Not one state senator or Assembleyman that was contacted responded. This looks worse for them with every day of silence and inaction from Christie. The NH groups publicly acknowledged these videos and have warned the country about Christie running for president. Of course, reliably Scott Bach and ANJRPC, who must be on Christie's campaign payroll, praised Christie last week as the 2A second coming of Christ in NJ. No one takes them seriously anymore. They are a joke. Notice they have not commented or helped one iota in this entire campaign, because they subsist on being "in" with the governor and this government complex. Guaranteed when we win, they will scream that their efforts had something to do with it, when it's volunteers speaking truth to power that are on the frontlines. Real change is coming. And it will come from brave citizens who said "fuck this" and start recording the scumbags that trample on their rights. Let them live by their own book of rules. They are disgusting, discriminatory pigs and we will expose them for what they are. Get out there and record any and every public official that is denying you your rights. Play dumb. Don't be confrontational. Just record their misconduct and help us spread the message to the entire country. Manalapan is a great town to go for it and I know many people who waited several months there to get a permit

The ANJRPC are pussies who love Christie and publicly exalt him Stop bullshitting and wasting your time. Go in there and audio and video record the PD and cite the amount of time they've been making you wait. Ask why they have taken 7 months to approve something that by law is supposed to take less than30 days. Then PM me and your content will get pushed online. If you don't record them, it never happened.

You should have gotten this on tape, we could have used it. Would be gold to have a department say it will take 4 months for permits, that they only accept typed applications, and that they only take applications by appointment a few times a month Go back there and ask again how long it will take and get the time frame recorded on your iPhone. We can use that

The ultimate goal is to eliminate the permitting process and install carry for everyone But the immediate goal is to inspire others to add to the content being release with their own videos of misconduct. Tweets and Facebook posts can be ignored. Video evidence cannot

What we need is more content. Other states knowing about it does very little. We need an overwhelming mountain of evidence that the governor and AG can't ignore