jackandjill

You must be new to NJ (just kidding). I am glad they dont argue (yet) that we have right to Bear Arms, but Constitution never said anything about proper Ammo to go with it.

You Sir, are too kind and I salute you. Carole Stiller - NJ Chapter of Million Mom March / Brady Campaign. These folks are old enough and wise enough to realize what they are doing and no amount of "information" and convincing is going to change that. In fact, its calculated move to organize these events in the times of Holidays and further invoke emotional response from unsuspecting public who would do anything for few minutes of feel-good rants.

Its a very personal thing and only you can decide what you have to do. If I were in that place, I will first cut off any of my donations and let them know in writing WHY, with proper reasoning. OR Ask them for an event spot that you will be organizing in future. Call it "Selft Defense For Domestic Violence Victims". Sub title could include "Arming your self for self-defence". See how they react, just for fun.

Jump start your heart, just in case :-)

Ok, so now we are in the race to the bottom ? I will take one less law on the books for $35 donation a year to nothing in return for couple of hundred bucks a year. I didnt hear anything about any of the folks quoted above too. Yes, I used to get "Brief" and I used to read it front to back. Other than chest thumping "We are going to strike fear in the hearts of any department that violates law", I have seen nothing. I have seen same thing happen with Groups outside 2A that takes membership fees and thinks they can "please" politicians by putting up "displays" in Trenton to show "our work". When push comes to shove, laws are passed regardless. And they come out of wood work and send out more chest thumping material claiming "we were never even invited". I am talking about the about to be passed, ridiculous regulations regarding keeping of Honey Bees. In fact, its these organizations that handed over their membership list to NJ Agri department and further enabled registration & inspection, which now leads to fines and confiscation because most of us are now "violating law" with new regulations being passed. Same as firearm laws. Registration, Change Law, Fines and Confiscation. I am done with trusting and paying anyone who claims "they got connections" in Trenton and pays themselves a hefty yearly salary for lip service.

I called the bank and GOOD NEWS.............. I have the $100 covered and just need to find the $60,000. Where is that Bitcoin thread again ?

BTW, do you want to know anit-2A strategy ? Simple. Public humiliation of Politicians, what ever it takes. Last November elections, their grass roots organizations took no-holds-barred approach of showing up offices of Republican politicians with displays, chants that said to the effect of "so and so blood is on your hands" or "this politician killed children in sandyhook". Which of the 2A organizations came anywhere close to that, directly picketing politicians ? If there is one thing Politicians understand, its non stop public humiliation, and recording of retarded things they say and do.

I didnt think of donated to NJ2AS until recently, much less a fan or moxie. I donated 100 times more to other organizations than I ever did to NJ2AS. In my personal opinion, my ROI has been great with NJ2AS than anything else in recent past. I will take his stupid video about a politician (in the context of other videos he had made at various PD locations) any day over "Permitting Strike Force" that does nothing (what a name) any day. We (specially I am ) are way past worrying about what others may think. Publicly criticizing another 2A organization, unprovoked is one thing I DO NOT support. May be we will take another 1A thread, but I wasn't talking about type of character assassination you are talking about and I certainly wasnt implying that other 2A groups will do. Its a different type of Character Assassination he needs to worry about, specially sticking he head so far out against a rotten system. More than happy to elaborate in 1A thread, if need be. Last but not least, NJ2AS was not just in "support" role for the stun gun case. They are the party to the stun gun case. And they won. If it was so easy, then I wonder what was taking so long for any number of NJ 2A organizations to get it done. And if it was so easy to go through Freedom Of Information act process, get videos, review them, get that one "aha" moment posted in the OP, then why isnt any other organization doing it ?

Agree to disagree on that. I am not counting on any other NJ organizations to do what NJ2AS is doing. And I dont see any "individuals" to stand up like Roubian does. The hot-headedness comes with the territory. If he wasnt, he would have joined an existing group like rest of us and wish things were different. He need to watch out though. Character assassination is a typical strategy opposition usually employs against this type of people. IF that were to ever happen, most of us will forget all the good things he did and say "See, I told ya, he wasn't all that different".

Only way to make no mistakes is not try at all. But that itself is a biggest mistake. I am sincerely interested in what he did with "2 steps back" that negatively impacted 2A rights of a regular Joe in NJ ?

I will say this again. I have far more respect for an idiot who does something than a learned who sits on their ass all day contemplating. Almost anyone can sit in their air conditioned office and talk. But it takes tremendous amount of balls to do what Roubian is doing here. Most of us hesitate to write a letter to local Chief asking why the processing is taking longer than directed by law. Imagine going with video cameras, recording, showing up at anti-2A discussions, challenging and opening yourself up to problem and taking on legal system ?

Sick bastards, thats who.

The concept of "sleeper cells" is obsolete when it comes this strategy. There are no "sleeper cells" per se. But there is virtually unlimited supply (thanks to policies such as of Obummer) of idiots who can be successfully brain washed. And infrastructure to brain wash is already there. Only way one could (possibly) describe this is "Cancer". You scan today, nothing shows up, you scan tomorrow nothing shows up. But the chemical infrastructure to turn any regular cells to cancerous is already there. Body undergoes stress, the percentage of cells ready to turn over increases. Taking proactive steps is extremely difficult if not impossible. If you start flushing body with treatments prematurely, you will harm the regular cells and body functions. Thats what is TERRIBLE about these developments. Society will cripple, especially freedoms. Cannot say more, because the thread will move to 1A :-(.

I would agree with that quick analysis and politics behind differences in voting between 2011 and 2017. Bottomline, most of them are not sincere about passing it, but will play games to "appear" to support depending on which way wind blows. No surprises in the conclusion there.

Entirely possible.

Suicide bombings (which this one looks like) are million times more dangerous than anything else. That paradigm is extremely difficult to control and manage. Its not about the damage from incidents themselves, but the shift it causes in politics, society demand for "security" and subsequent actions resulting in total dismantling of freedoms we enjoyed for centuries (or whats left of it).

Promise me that you will keep an open mind.

How about you sweep that metal detector over and see how loud it beeps. Don't be shy! But 15lb of LI powered could be rough. I hope you stocked up on gun lube from black friday deals.

15lbs. Hmm....Did the mass spectrometer say anything about rocks ?

Resist the urge. You can do it.

Last year, I did an experiment relevant to this topic. I had a windows laptop, a mac and an android tablet. I used all three for atleast a year, with admin credentials, without ever getting a malware, virus or browser hijacks. I also had a linux (Mint Linux) Then I gave each of these to other people who don't consciously think about security. Results: 1. Window computer was littered with malware / virus / browser hijacks within a week 2. Mac had malware / browser hijacks within about two months. This mac even had McAfee (live) installed and enabled. 3. (Surprisingly) Android tablet got weird apps (malware) installed in about 6 months and had to do factory reset 4. Mint Linux survived more than a year (and still going) without ever getting a malware, virus or browser hijack. Lessons learned: 1. Windows WILL get virus / malware in a regular user hands no matter how much you harden it, short of use-and-lose Virtual Machine based system. 2. Linux will survive most, and suits needs of a person who only browses internet, watch youtube etc. However, functionality could be limited when it comes to office type work, tax preparation etc.

toes.

Everybody got their reasons, but if someone's computer is constantly getting hit, then they are better off with a linux (ubuntu and other lightweight stuff). Bit more expensive, but good value long term is Mac. Used Mac can be cost effective. If you HAVE to have windows, you have to harden it further including non-admin account, super ninja training for user in computer security. The problem is, internet is littered with too many ads, click baits, paid content, virus/malware in binaries pretending to be flash or other plugins. Browsers gets taken over with "search" plugins that are DANGEROUS. Imagine mom trying to get to bank website and "search engine" hijacks her traffic to a look-a-like.

Perhaps discuss with your doctor first ? Once you answer "yes", they would want to see a letter from Doc anyways. You might as well get started on that right away.