jackandjill
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Called and thanked Gov for Veto'ng the Mag Limit Bill.
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The bickering around OC and CC is similar to the ones between folks are satisfied with their traditional firearms and argue against likes of AR15s. At the end of the day, the community loses at the hands of Anti 2A crowds. Just like we need no "justifiable need" to Concealed Carry, there is no need for anyone to explain why they want to Open Carry. Its a damn right that will go away if not exercised frequently. As simple as that. All those who argue against OC, look at the mirror and ask yourself why you need a standard capacity magazine or "assault weapons" such as AR15s.
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To go on offense, we probably need solid repub lead in legislature AND a repub Gov. If we can align it and push bills through, we may succeed.
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Thank you, Mr Governor.
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I would never get press involved in this. In fact, I am surprised "MOMs whatever" didnt already run campaign about "how easy <sarcasm>" it is to get a purchase permit in some of these towns. What I DO want to see is NJ Gun Rights groups to grow a pair and put a "WANTED, ARMED AND DANGEROUS" type bill board up about towns that treat law abiding citizens as criminals and give run around for months at a time. BTW, if you like the way your PD processed your paperwork, how about buying pizza lunch or some donuts & coffee.
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Is there a East of East ? :-) Mind sharing your thoughts ? I have been debating between SC/NC and NH.
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Congratulations. Now, don't forget , that the NJ decease WILL spread unless each free state citizens take deliberate, active and continuous measures against anti 2A.
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There is no rhyme or reason to this, except to start down the path of undoing CCW. This is EXACTLY how the game is played. Take a little by little carefully and you will never upset enough people at the same time to take action of getting kicked out of office.
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I agree with you. And I agree with Newtonian partly. We just have to continue to explore ALL avenues. If old blood moves out of NJ, there has to be new blood to continue the fight for the good cause. What I am debate is around the real number of people who really care. Most of us here are overestimating that number. We need to donate and keep legal pressure while working the political angle in parallel.
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All those numbers are dandy, but the reality is far from it. Good percentage of that final number is simply NOT 2A proponents. They are firearm owners for the convenience of hunting, hate concealed carry, hate "assault weapons", like to "save children from the carnage". Last I checked, the OP donation page gathered total of about $1400. I will challenge everyone again, forget 150,000, get 10000 people to donate $10 each to the cause and I will match that contribution. That will show how deeply NJ gun owners care about their rights. Enough to donate $10 to OP cause ?
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Now, where the "PP" for that ? Say it, "where is the PP for that". :-)
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Strong union mentality, no 2A state constitution makes it virtually impossible to win in this state with a single strategy. We need BOTH political action and legal remedies to bring meaningful 2A rights to this state. It may never happen, but giving up only creates opportunities for this disease to spread.
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The numbers doesnt matter (largely). Here is why: * There is enough bickering within the gun owner community * Some think OGAM, PP, AWB, Mag restrictions are all fine as long as it doesnt affect *plug their favorite gun* * People vote with Union direction * There is VERY LITTLE population (if any) who are hardcore 2A * There has been enough gun laws, long enough to make people believe its OK * Many get old and tired fighting these laws, give up and leave to enjoy the retirement in 2A friendly state
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^^^ Much appreciated :-) . The recommended plumber showed up on time, installed Bradford White. They had to dig concrete to make room for larger vent (apparently code changed since last install). I am glad I didnt take this job on myself. I am happy with the work. On the old one, I remember the cold water line (incoming) being cold. On this after, it feel warm / hot. Is hot water from the tank backing into cold line ? Is it a problem ?
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If that is the case, SCOTUS would not have taken ANY 2A cases and left ALL of it to States. Its not. Far simpler explanation is, most of the establishments HATE 2A and will either stay away from ruling on critical pieces or watch the game until it turns in their favor and then rule. IF 50+ states were like NJ, Feds (and SCOTUS) would have had NO PROBLEM making more Federal laws (in favor of restriction) and not leave upto those two or three constitutional states. Where as, when 50+ states allow concealed carry and most of them honor each others carry permits, Feds "leave upto states" as IF they honor states rights. BS.
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I dont believe for a second that Feds and SCOTUS are staying out of 2A because they like to respect states rights and leave it to states. They are staying out because the land of the law is not in their favor and doesn't serve their agenda. Feds jump in when its convenient for them and fits their agenda. States like NJ, NY, CA serve as "pilot" for all the firearm laws that WILL become federal at some point in future, if not squashed in infancy. If Feds really believed that 2A is a State matter, then there should be ZERO federal laws regarding firearms except interstate commerce.
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"Weaver added that “Point-em-out, Knock-em-out” isn’t gang related, and teens are playing it because they’re bored — and watching others on the Internet getting away with it inspired confidence." So unless it is widely known as to what happens when the victims are armed, this decease will spread. Stories involving victims defending, standing ground and possibly taking on the perp is the only way this madness will stop. But of course, MSM loves victimization and self defense stories seldom see the light of the day.
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CCW may not directly help, but some form of carry along with stand your ground law will help. All it takes is one individual to stand his/her ground. That will send strong message across to whoever is into this game. But then again, we will have flying cars before the control freak political mindset changes in NJ.
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Great advice from everyone. After calculating the typical heater cost, my skill, time, and permit , decided to go with a local plumber. Hope everything works out. Thanks again.
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So, last night, our 12 year old, 40 Gal water heater (gas) decided to act like Geyser. This is first time I would be getting the heater replaced, so wondering about few things. 1. Is there difference between 6 yr and 10 yr warranty models. A plumber tells me they all last approx same. 2. What can I expect to spend (approx) for the 6 yr model - material & labor 3. Any recommendation for a decent plumber in Bergen County (Montvale). Thanks
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Ok, Thats 200K right there. I want to know what it costs to take the a class action case all the way to SCOTUS
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To prove (or disprove) that NJ 2A community has no serious membership, here is my offer. I will donate $10 for each member (NJ Resident) who files for CCW permit and join (and stay) in a class action CCW case against NJ. If 1000 signup, i will donate $10,000. If 10,000 signup, I will work all year and donate $100,000 . I am serious about this offer. Any takers ?
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Does it make sense to check with ANJRPC on the mass-application before reinventing the wheel. We need some serious lawyer-type discussions before jumping into the waters. I havent seen the usual members comment on thread, they know something we dont ? Interestingly, I checked Almeida gofundme page. That page raised all of $1483, a drop in the bucket. Some obvious numbers: $100 from 1000 people is 100K. $100 from 10000 people is 1 mil. How many are willing to give up one long gun from their collection for some serious class action suit ? It could rival Mr. Bloomberg donation, but I doubt many in NJ are that serious about 2A and concealed carry. It would seem that on average there were no more than 14 people willing to give $100 each to Almedia. My justifiable need is "Self Defense" and second amendment. Not sure if that qualifies (?) but count me in. I will bring some dough too.