ryan_j

In that case we come with torches and pitchforks. I'm sure once people get a taste to take it away won't be easy.

We are working with him on something. Would be nice if we joined forces.

http://blog.princelaw.com/2014/05/12/attorney-general-kane-invalidates-utah-firearm-reciprocity/

Guys I'm fully convinced this is a symptom of a bigger problem. This would NOT be an issue if we had right to carry in NJ. Can we at least focus some of our energy and anger on NJ? Why not ask Christies AG to fix our justifiable need?

He is. Funding would be the major obstacle I would imagine. I would be willing to step in as a plaintiff.

That's too small I can't read the text

It was probably negotiated by the rifle and pistol clubs when the law was drafted. The law is such that members of rifle and pistol clubs can carry their guns to "a place of target practice" whereas everyone else can carry their guns to "an authorized target range." There is a subtle difference. A "place of target practice" can be anywhere, really, such as a farm or a piece of vacant land. An "authorized target range" is just that, an official range. If you aren't a member of a club, you should become one.

Maybe, maybe not. I think one needs to be a TX resident to be a TX CHL instructor.

Utah website updated: http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html

That's true. I'm not sure anyone outside of TX offers it though.

She dropped recognition of ID and now UT.

I doubt it. She dropped Idaho last year too.

She also dropped Idaho last year.

Check the AG website. Utah used to be listed as category 2 but not anymore.

I'm getting mine this year

Yes but you have to take the class in TX

They can. But since we don't live in PA and many PA gun owners don't seem to think there's a problem dropping non resident reciprocity I don't see the legislature picking this up.

No legislature did anything. Open carry is fine, but remember no OC without a permit in Philly.

Utah is no longer honored as of yesterday. Resident or non resident. Info comes from Gary Slider of handgunlaw.us who I consider to be a reliable source. AG website confirms.

You've nailed part of it in my opinion.

There is a big difference between "requiring a card" and "requiring a card, and to get such card you have to have a nearly impossible requirement to meet."

Has to be more than that.

First time I went shooting, my friend had (still has) a 92FS. When we were ready to pack up, and he was clearing it, the gun went off. He had a ND with it because his finger was on the trigger. Thankfully the safety between his ears was engaged and the gun was pointed downrange. Don't depend on mechanical safeties. The safety between your ears is the best.

I don't think it's just hunters. There are extremely liberal pistol shooters I know as well. They just like statism more than they like guns. I think most people in NJ liked the Roe v Wade decision, not the other way around. Nevertheless, I haven't heard much from the pro gun side on abortion these days anyway. I am not an old white guy. I'm a guy, but that's about it. Old and white? No. There are lots like me. Just gotta get them enthusiastic for the cause. I feel offended every time the state feels that it must virtually point guns to our faces because they are afraid of us.

I think it was Massad Ayoob's ProArms podcast. I see a lot of ANJRPC stickers, plus a lot more NRA stickers on cars. A lot of people I talk to and known for years I never even knew they were into guns or shooting. In fact tonight at my ham radio club meeting we had a tribute kind of picture frame to a member who had just passed away. It had a number of radio related items but also a NRA keychain in it. I was quite surprised. He didn't seem like a "gun" guy, but lo and behold he apparently was. Maybe we are not Utah or Texas but we seem to have a decent number of gun owners.