ryan_j

I heard that Gun for Hire is now the nation's busiest indoor range, now surpassing the NRA range in Virginia. All ranges on the weekends I have went to have been busy. So this seems to indicate a lot of gun owners in NJ. But it seems as though we are fighting off threats to the 2A every so often, more so than other states. For a state that shoots so much, why are we so weak politically when it comes to gun rights? I'm looking for an honest answer.

Do they have that extra heavy trigger like the NYPD?

Gun for Hire recently made a nice donation of Sig Sauer P227s to the entire Woodland Park PD. Previously they used Springfield XD chambered in .45ACP. This is the only instance I've heard of a police department using Springfield. I thought most of them used Glock.

They are mostly buried in local news.

If both bills are identical there's no need to do this. I believe they are.

I plan to just get a few boxes to start, and if I see a good deal I will buy in bulk.

I will be getting my first .22LR pistol (Sig 1911-22) soon and was looking to get a couple of bricks of .22LR. What is considered to be a "good" price? I've seen as low as 7 cents/round and as high as 15 cents and higher. What do you usually pay?

They could ask for the order to be stayed pending appeal. If that is granted they don't have to comply. But as of now, they have to comply, or yes, they could be held in contempt.

Yeah all you need to buy long guns in NY is NICS. However you have that crappy 7/10 round limit and only one evil feature.

2A might be aligned with the GOP but not necessarily. Look at VT. Blue state with communist Bernie Sanders as Senator. They have NO permit required to carry and they are freer than a lot of states. Meanwhile in NJ you have Republican Chris Christie who said that he doesn't want a lot of guns out there. Sheriff Gore in San Diego CA (of Peruta v Gore fame) is a Republican too.

There are a few cases left. There is of course Pantano in NJ, but there is also Richards (Yolo county CA) and Baker (Hawaii) out of the 9th. There is also Bonidy in the 10th which challenges carry on USPS property but the district judge ruled that there is a right to carry outside the home. There's a new suit out of MA as well. The big elephant in the room though is Palmer out of DC which is a straight 2A outside the home case like Moore. That one has been pending since 2009 and Gura just filed another petition for a writ of mandamus (which basically means sh*t or get off the pot) and if he is denied again he will file for one at SCT. McKay looks like it will be mooted because she's issuing permits in Orange County CA. Gura claims that Peruta is mooted too because Gore has refused to respond to the court. Richards already has an en banc appeal from Sheriff Prieto, but that could be denied as well, and then he'll have to petition to SCT. Still a few cases left but I must admit it's getting down to the wire.

Well, if you're interested in your overall gun rights, you can live somewhere like the Eastern part of Pike County PA like Milford or Matamoras and work in Orange County. Depending on where the job is, you can have a relatively easy commute. You can get a PA LTCF and won't be subject to the NY SAFE Act and you will have no magazine limits whatsoever. On the other hand, you wouldn't be able to get a carry permit in NY, so you'll be disarmed when going to work (assuming your employer even allows you to carry on the job in the first place. Many do not.) But in PA you'll be able to buy anything and everything you want including Class 3 NFA if you wanted and you won't need any pistol permits or anything to own them. And you said you don't care about pistols anyway. Overall I think PA is better.

I shipped my Springfield XDS for the recall via FedEx. They gave me a label. Drove it straight to the FedEx hub in the trade zone in Budd Lake. I think the theory about reasonable deviations is correct. Then again who knows. NJ gun laws are so vague and arbitrary.

Bear in mind that it only takes four justices to grant cert. If there isn't a fifth vote for the merits, the four liberals could vote to grant and take this opportunity to destroy the 2A for good, like they've wanted to. But why not? I'm thinking the Heller five decided collectively to pass on this on their own, probably either in the hopes of something better, OR because they want to duck the question.

Spot on. Cato's amicus brief also asked if they were serious. Apparently not.

James Kaleda was arrested for allegedly falsifying info on his FID application. Just be aware that falsification could have dire consequences. But what did they claim you falsified anyway?

It is an inherent right that is only recognized by the Constitution, not granted by it.

Oh yes I forgot that.

Why go through even that. NICS should be enough.

But that's just it. Let's take one of our favorite topics - carry permits. The argument against "shall issue" in NJ is population density. Problem is, that we do not have that issue up here in Sussex County, or maybe down deep South Jersey. But they have one law for carry permits statewide where you have to show justifiable need. So we are equally denied as someone in a dense area, say Newark or JC. Compare that to a state like MA or CA. In California at least in some of the more rural counties you can get a carry permit (even before the Peruta decision). In MA if you are away from the Boston area you can get a LTC. Even in NY if you are outside of NYC you can get a carry permit easily. Meanwhile in NJ it's one restrictive law for the whole damn state. See what I mean?

How about we all plan to apply for that "shall issue" carry permit that the AG says we can get?

And go where?

So where are the 1 million gun owners in NJ? Can't we put some kind of pressure on the legislature?

This case is over but they can take the CA case and rule on it if it is petitioned. I used to not think this but I really think that SCOTUS is afraid to take a case because guns

Scott Bach said something powerful I will always remember. He said in essence that some people might think a ban on .50 cal is no big deal because some people don't shoot it. But once they come after .50 and succeed they will be back for more. And more and more until before you know it your right is gone. Yesterday the grabberz wanted your handgun. Today they are after your AR. Tomorrow your shotgun. They will go piece by piece until you have nothing.