ryan_j

The last paragraph is what summed it up for me: Kinetic energy does not wound. Temporary cavity does not wound. The much discussed "shock" of bullet impact is a fable and "knock down" power is a myth. The critical element is penetration. The bullet must pass through the large, blood bearing organs and be of sufficient diameter to promote rapid bleeding. Penetration less than 12 inches is too little, and, in the words of two of the participants in the 1987 Wound Ballistics Workshop, "too little penetration will get you killed." 42,43 Given desirable and reliable penetration, the only way to increase bullet effectiveness is to increase the severity of the wound by increasing the size of hole made by the bullet. Any bullet which will not penetrate through vital organs from less than optimal angles is not acceptable. Of those that will penetrate, the edge is always with the bigger bullet.44

http://www.thegunzone.com/quantico-wounding.html This is a discussion by the FBI.

And to be clear, I wasn't really looking for a list of judges. What I want to know is what constitutes justifiable need to issue a permit. The 800 or so permits per year can't all be security guards. Some must have justifiable need. I doubt that judges would vary regionally because Muller from Sussex County was denied by a Morris County judge, and Morris County and Sussex County are pro 2nd amendment.

CT is shall issue in practice.

Total number is available. Specific judges, probably not.

I've been getting "all circuits are busy." Tried my office phone and verizon cell phone.

Thanks. Upon further reading I think I'll just stick with Hornady critical defense. The last thing I want is an armed criminal getting a graze wound then shooting back with hollow points.

Well I have a little problem. I printed off my fedex label but had to head out of town last week so I couldn't ship it back. Now I'm calling springfield to get a new label (since the old one expired) and their phones are extremely busy. So much so in fact that I'm getting "all circuits are busy" when I call. This is going to be a high caliber headache. I think I'll just take my chances until they can get their stuff sorted out.

Anyone use it, and is it legal in NJ? I see some but they appear to be hollow points. I know hollow points are legal in the home but apparently not legal moving from one home to another. Would you recommend it for home defense (i.e. since it does not penetrate walls)?

Lockdown in 5...4...3...2...

I have two cars so I can't decide which one to leave it in. So it just stays in my wallet. You also say that you don't carry your carry permit? So how do you legally conceal carry without one?

Even for in state sales in PA, all handgun sales must go through a FFL.

Nope. Locked in the document safe with my passport except when I'm going to buy ammo or transport long guns. I always have my UT CCW with me though. Never know when I need to hop over to PA.

We didn't go to the moon, and the Earth is flat too.

Sorry but I'm against the taking of human life unless it's self defense. I'm not compromising on that.

Funny how they are all up in arms about chemical weapons in syria when chemicals have killed more unborn babies than people in syria.

To my knowledge we don't have them here and people run red all the time.

It expired, so I'm going out and buying up a case of machine guns now. I'm sure NJ wanted to become more free than New Hampshire.

In Europe they're going further than that, proposing to put speed governors in your car that read the speed limit signs or get speed info wirelessly and then apply the brake when you exceed the speed limit. Older cars won't be safe from this, they are going to mandate retrofits as well.

For that reason alone I say keep the red light cameras. Turn right on red is a big problem because people don't even STOP when the light is red around here. They just go balls to the wall to make it before I reach the intersection, meaning I usually have to brake and THIS could cause an accident. I've never gotten a red light ticket and I always make sure I can stop at a light if it turns red. This means being prepared to stop at a "stale green" light. Only once has my car been rear ended and this was in a construction zone from a driver who was paying more attention to her cell phone than the road.

I was just at the US Constitution center this weekend, in Philly. Had no idea they supported crap like this.

And is James Mulvihill related to the guy that owned Action (accident) Park?

Here's the problem with buybacks: They are anonymous. How can you give written notice anonymously? They use churches and other places as collection points. How can one legally transport a firearm to a church to turn it in? Here's what Nappen says: http://www.evannappen.com/5000-reward---church-gun-buyback-legal.html What I believe is that the authorities know the law is being broken but they simply refuse to charge/prosecute under "discretion" because surrendering firearms is "for the common good."

But what I do know is that there ARE a few people who aren't LEO/retired LEO, or security guards/armored car and who have permits. Who are they and how did they get their permits? What's even more bizarro is that some judges have said that they can't get one, nor members of the NJ legislature. But others apparently can. So what do those with carry permits have to do to get them? Apart from Jeff Muller who basically had be beaten, kidnapped and file a federal lawsuit. What is their justifiable need, and how is it better than a judge or member of the legislature? In NYC it is quite clear who gets and who doesn't. Wealthy people like Donald Trump and Ivan Seidberg (Verizon CEO) can get a permit. Celebrities such as A-Rod and Steven Tyler can get one. But apparently in NJ nobody knows who gets one.

More like Accident Park... I live near there. It's now Mountain Creek I think.