ryan_j

That one is in fact jersey legal, and it is 0.75 oz. It's the P-22J-OC, look on this page: http://www.sabrered.com/servlet/the-SABRE-Red-Pepper-Sprays-cln-Athletic-Defense-Spray/Categories No idea why Amazon is not shipping to NJ.

Whoa there Vlad. Don't be ridiculous. I only brought it up because you and others jumped on me for me saying that it may be a good idea to not transport loaded mags. This is different from the actual letter of the law. The letter of the law is not in dispute. Let's get that straight out in the open. But I did say that it was Nappen's advice. Nappen is an attorney, a well respected one at that. More importantly he has represented people in actual cases. Now if you can give me a valid reason why your advice is more sound, by all means, I'll take your advice. But since Nappen is who he is, and given that if many here are arrested, he's the first one on speed dial to call, I think his advice is more sound. As for applying caution in my life? Absolutely. I have a family and lots to lose if I end up even arrested. I don't have any pro gun anything on my vehicles and avoiding the attention of law enforcement, as well as covering all my bases gives me peace of mind. Maybe if like you I lived in a state where gun ownership is a normal way of life, I'd go about things differently. No one wants to be the next Brian Aitken or George Revell, who thought they were well within the law but were slinged up by the NJ judicial system. Bottom line - I'd rather not take my chances. Vlad, I take it that you haven't seen what NJ legislators want for us? I'm glad you live in PA where you can exercise your rights freely, but those of us who still live in NJ have to deal with the system, including (and especially) vague laws full of traps that can get you put away for a long time for what for many is not a big deal. It is what it is.

Is he taking up residence in your home, or just visiting? If just visiting, the answer is no. If he's going to live with you guys, the answer is yes. Also no magazines >15 rounds.

Pretty sure that it does include armed guards and armored car drivers. It does not include retired police.

It's about 600 a year is what they're saying. 94% are approved. But I've also heard there are 30k CCW permits in total in NJ. So that includes retired cops?

HA! So I was right after all... I knew Evan said it, it just wasn't in his book. Understand this. There is the law, and there's common sense. Taking reasonable steps to not draw attention to yourself is not a bad thing. Transporting your mag unloaded is what I would consider a reasonable step. Yes, it's not required by law but so what? It takes me less than a minute to load a mag with 15 rounds. Not an inconvenience in the least, at least compared to being hassled or locked up and made into a test case.

I look at it this way. Unless you're one of the chosen few or a cop, you're not getting to carry. So a firearm in an unlocked case in your trunk is close to useless. So why not put a cheap lock?

Is that a special procedure because you're a LEO?

THat one? They say it's only illegal in NY and a few other states. NJ not listed. No I am not sure.

Very nice. My brother is due home in a few weeks as well. But he's stationed out in California. Right now he's in Afghanistan and very glad to get home to his wife and 1.5 year old daughter.

This one is legal in NJ http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002E6RERU/

Three quarters of an ounce is the maximum!!! Jeez, this state is just begging you to be a victim.

I must get out of here more often. We see a lot of bears. Every year. Crossing the street even.

Holy crap it only take 2 pages to realize this. Thanks for keeping it on topic.

Given his twitter account, this is nothing new... but rest assured those in support of Travyon will play the victim card as much as possible. And he has no trigger discipline either.

There's the matter of the prevailing wage. If Edison wants to pay seniore cops $50k and other departments are paying $90k, guess where they'll go?

Go talk to your town council, tell them to reduce the salary. See how quickly you get laughed out the room.

Crap. I wish they didn't use that damn facebook commenting. I try to login using Yahoo! Since that doesn't post up where I work like the stupid facebook commenting does. I'm in though, and commenting away.

I'm in a trolling mood today. I'll go yank his chain a bit.

Median salary for police in NJ is $90k. Why is $118k a surprise to you? It seems about normal. By the way, in before the lock...

I don't drink much, but I go to the occasional bar now and again to socialize with friends. But I hardly drink hard liquor, mostly beer and wine. When I drink hard liquor it's from my own liquor cabinet. Yes, I'm very picky. And apparently for good reason! Turns out NJ bars have been serving all sorts of interesting "substitutes" for liquor in an effort to cheat customers. I am not very surprised that they did... and I was expecting that maybe they were pouring cheap booze in a top shelf bottle and selling it as top shelf liquor. But rubbing alcohol? My God, I knew the Sopranos was fiction, but life is clearly imitating art here. Yes, you heard me right. They mixed rubbing alcohol with food coloring and sold it as top shelf liquor. I hope no one went blind from the stuff. But it gets better... TGI Friday's? Are you kidding me? The first time I went to a TGI Fridays I got sick for a few days. I guess there's a good reason. Yuck. I don't go there anymore. http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/rubbing_alcohol_as_scotch_nj_o.html

Not saying you should be happy they took your guns, but at that point I would want the police guarding the house for at least a few days or until I either got the gun back or they apprehended the others.

There are many reasons I can think of. First one is that you need stopping power for a perp that is high on drugs and who may not feel pain as much. The more shots you have, the more likely he will not be able to get back up. You want to make sure the threat is gone, and that means that the perp is not moving. The second and more important one is that you may be confronted with multiple assailants and have no time to re-arm. The chance is very good that you will be confronted with multiple attackers. The third is that if you have 15, 17, 19 or 30 rounds in the magazine with you, you won't have to remember to bring the spare mag. In the heat of the moment you may just have time to grab the gun and go. See above about multiple attackers.

What about an out building like a shed or barn? How much is allowed there?

I don't mind them seizing that one gun. As long as they don't seize all. I would go out and celebrate life by buying a new gun anyway.