ryan_j

But news reports are conflicting though. No hostages? http://www.app.com/article/20130519/NJNEWS/305190066/Report-Person-possibly-armed-barricaded-Hazlet-home Just what warranted sharp shooters? There were sharp shooters on the roof of people's homes waiting for this guy to come out. Retired police officer? Hmm. SOmeone said he was ex "NY police." I assume that means NYPD. Anyway glad it's over. Hazlet, Keansburg, whatever... lol

It's not NJ but a NY judge defined "loaded" as possessing both the gun and sufficient ammo to discharge it. It could be 10 feet apart, still loaded. Wacky wacky state.

yeh they sent me some pics on facebook, sharp shooters and all

Looks like it's coming to an end. The guy let his kid out the house.

I've already said why. If I could sell my house for at least how much I paid for it I'd move tomorrow.

Under 3 weeks, that is impressive. They really deserve a commendation for that. When I dealt with NJSP handling my credit card fraud case I took a form to write the trooper a compliment. He said don't worry about it.

Initially it was bad. Demand outstripped server capacity. Now they are good, and no computer required.

They cut power to the house. Some mean looking sharp shooters are on roofs nearby. It will end badly for this dude.

http://www.app.com/article/20130519/NJNEWS/305190066/Report-Person-possibly-armed-barricaded-Hazlet-home?nclick_check=1

Monmouth County Police facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MonmouthCountyPoliceFireEMS?hc_location=timeline People aren't being allowed into their houses due to police activity. They say it's a hostage situation, domestic disturbance.

He told me they have sharp shooters and SWAT there. Not sure if he's exaggerating or not. EDIT: Not exaggerating. They just sent me a pic. WTF!!!

I have been using VOIP for a long while. I was a Vonage subscriber from 2003 to 2008. I have tried about a dozen VOIP services. Currently I use CallCentric because I am a low volume outgoing user and I use my cellphone for outgoing calls. 911 is not a problem. They actually contract out to a third party provider. FCC now requires it for US VOIP accounts. They charge $1.50/month for it. It works pretty much as long as you have internet, which means for Sandy we had no house phone because the cable company has little in the way of backup power. I have played around with IP PBXes and smartphone apps. Very flexible what you can do. I also use Google Voice, been an early user since it became available. Ooma is OK. You use to pay once and forget about it until something happened and you had to start paying about $3 in tax per month. Magic jack is not bad too and now you don't even need a computer to use it.

That's right near my cousin's house. The police are in his yard in fact.

Bingo. Next thing is, how will this play out in the courts if someone is arrested for this. I'm not saying I want to be a test case though!

Not bad!!! I should figure out how to hack this thing.

Mine last a MONTH then do that, but my closet is like a meat locker. COLD. That probably kills batteries. I want to mod it to use an AC adapter but I am thinking of getting a mechanical pistol box to secure my 3AM SHTF handgun. My #1 criteria is something the kids can't accidentally open. Yes, I will teach them daddy's guns are here, don't touch etc but I want to be doubly sure.

I shoot at CR so I usually go to the club house before I go home. Easiest and legal way for everything except fuel. But I was curious about this purely from an academic standpoint. And yes, I know the cops say it's an illegal stop but I'm more concerned about why. You're not getting out of the vehicle and it doesn't seem to be an unreasonable deviation.

Given that I live in NJ, I have no choice but to have a scope that includes NJ. Yes, some LEO will stand up against bad laws. But I haven't heard a peep out of NJ LEO leaders like police chiefs or even Sheriffs against gun control that says to an effect what these Sheriffs are saying. I have my theories why but I will keep them to myself right now. How many testified at the hearings against the bills? I don't think I've seen a single one. Maybe the solution is to get out of NJ, because I don't see the police standing with citizens. The rank and file are most likely with us, but they will say, "sorry sir but I'm just following orders."

Vlad, while I am inclined to agree with you, a lot of very bad things in history were done in the name of "I'm just following orders" or "I'm just doing my job" or "I'm doing this to feed my family." So I wouldn't really use that as a moral compass. We have a lot of prominent LEOs, particularly Sheriffs, coming out and saying they will not enforce new state and Federal gun laws. Even in NY some have come out against the SAFE act. In NJ we have been hearing...crickets. I think that by itself is disturbing. This implies that any new laws will be enforced, and the excuses I mentioned above will be used. Some people wonder what will happen if new draconian laws are passed. I am not. I will tell you what will happen. The police will enforce them and say "we are just doing our jobs" or "I'm just following orders, don't blame me" or "You want my family to starve?"

I think that attacking the cops for their response in that situation was not the right thing to do. The best thing would have been for the student to be armed and trained to defend against a home invasion. But a liberal college in a liberal state, good luck. We shouldn't be bashing the cops unless they truly deserve it. We should aim our anger and criticism at politicians who make us depend on the police to save us.

I hope and I'd the makeup of the court were a bit different I would share in your optimism. But i have a feeling we will be seeing more like the wise Latina on the court.

Let's say I'm on my way to the range. I'm hungry and I go thru a fast food drive thru and buy some unhealthy food. Is that an illegal stop and why? I searched but couldn't find a thread on this already. Apologies if it has been asked.

I think they aren't dumb. They know this will ban guns by attrition. They want a total ban without the ire of the SCOTUS so they're doing this creatively.

NJ does that too. Remember we have a smart gun mandate?

Here's the thing though, how do you not speed when even in the right lane people are tailgating and flashing you if you go the limit, or even 5-10 over?