ryan_j

Yes.

I don't ever want to use a 100 round drum. Those things are unreliable. That's how the Colorado shooter was brought down. His 100 round mag jammed up. They should be legal for precisely this reason.

"Luckily he only suffered minor injuries" Damn.

I have a feeling that this will be decided in the SCOTUS since the 4th circuit just ruled that open carry by itself is not probable cause to detain someone. http://www.fedagent.com/columns/case-law-updates/784-fourth-circuit-finds-that-carrying-a-firearm-in-an-open-carry-state-does-not-create-reasonable-suspicion-and-provides-thorough-analysis-of-the-free-to-leave-standard-of-seizure

Well yes, the police can't be everywhere at once, and that is understandable. That is why we should be able to have our own means to protect ourselves.

This guy was an ex cop... Maybe he should have transported the guns while he was still a police officer. He would have been covered under LEOSA, even the hollow points would have not been a problem.

One of the big problems with NJ gun laws is the Graves Act. This provides mandatory minimum sentences for all gun crimes. I believe it is 5 years with 3 years incarceration minimum before parole eligibility. In some places, illegal possession like this is a misdemeanor. In some places it is a small fine. In NJ we treat it like a capital crime.

If that were the case, redistricting would have zero effect. So you are wrong.

No Vlad. The moral of the story is carry your guns in anything BUT a gun case. He did not consent to a search, but having a GUN case is suddenly now probable cause for a warrantless search? That's what the judge said, and what makes this different. Yes, he broke the law, but there is a possible illegal search here, so the cops may have broken the law too. It's very possible that if he didn't have a gun case, and a guitar case instead, he'd have been sent on his way. They wouldn't have had probable cause for a search had it not been for the gun case. We aren't supposed to break the law but we have protections against unwarranted search and seizure.

http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/Court-upholds-TX-man-s-conviction-in-NJ-gun-case-4531208.php And you people are telling me I'm being paranoid for transporting magazines unloaded... NJ makes up the laws as they go along, period. No ifs, ands, or buts. Cover your butt or risk getting jammed up, and with the right judge, convicted. My rifles are going to be transported in a guitar case, and my handguns in a lunch box.

Nope. They need to send out SWAT and evacuate everyone in a 20 block radius. Who knows, he may have a Barrett 50 cal and could be shooting down an oil refinery or aircraft.

No kidding. My cousin lives there on that street. I've been there. I know the neighborhood. I still don't think it warranted sharp shooters on the roof, and a SWAT team. A patrol car or two? Yes, absolutely.

Really? Once I called the NJSP about what I thought were shots being fired, they told me relax, it's the country, people do that all the time. After a while you get used to it.

The persons of color for gun rights is interesting. You know that the #1 argument that antis use is that "gun violence" disproportionately affects minorities. Good show. Maybe I will contact your guest. It is worth noting that there are more of us than people think. Every time I go to the range I see people I see in everyday life in NJ. These people need to speak up.

He appealed and the LCM charge was dropped, along with illegal possession and everything else except the possession of hollow points.This was after Christie ordered his release. This is interesting because the judge did not even hear the argument about being under one of the exemptions. The NJ judge did not even bother with NJ law, he just went along and selected what he wanted to prosecute the poor fellow. And this brings me back to the original question. Has anyone been arrested and charged with possession of loaded magazines while transporting a firearm under one of the exemptions? Not that I know of. Do I want to be a test case? No I do not.

Well I don't know what it means but that is verbatim from section 265 of the NY penal code.

I think this is more of a test than anything else. They're testing the waters to see if Christie will sign anything at all.

Well that is NY. And I thought you were talking about ranges in NJ. Every range in NJ I have been to did not have magazine capacity limits below the legal limit.

I have heard from several sources that A3717 is in violation of Federal law, is that correct?

Find a new range. I have never had a problem loading and shooting 15 at CR.

Well I was wrong about Nappen having it in his book. Doesn't seem that he did. I may have imagined it or seen it somewhere else. So carry loaded mags and carry on. At least in NJ. In other states it is a different story. In NY their definition of a loaded firearm is: “Loaded firearm” means any firearm loaded with ammunition or any firearm which is possessed by one who, at the same time, possesses a quantity of ammunition which may be used to discharge such firearm. But cops jamming you up? Sure, it happens. Brian Aitken. Arrested for illegal possession, but all charges dropped by a judge except the hollow points.

I hear shots all the time being fired around here. Nobody even thinks twice about it. Could be just some guy plinking in his back yard. Just too much damn hoplophobia these days.

Legal as in letter of the law. However some cop can jam you up. But that's true for most laws. That's what courts are for. However, Nappen cautions against it in his book. So generally I do not transport loaded mags unless I'm going or coming from somewhere where I am carrying (PA and beyond).

Job not a problem. I practically live in Pennsylvania. I could walk there in a couple of hours, lol.

VOnage was nice but then they got so expensive when everyone was getting cheaper. They are good if you make a lot of international calls though.