Howard

How could anyone take a thing that person says seriously when they go into the natural born part -- either a joke or a total moron - or both!

Looks like yet another case of someone that the law says should not have access to weapons did not obey the law. Maybe they should pass laws that make them enforce existing laws rather than pass laws to further restrict those of us that actually obey the laws.

I just want to apologize if anyone thought I was trying to rub their nose in anything, I was just so shocked and happy this happened so fast after reading the headaches so many are going through in this state. The good news is there are some towns that are living up to the spirit of the law. When I got there I asked about what the procedure was to extend the permits, as it would be physically impossible to use four in 90 days per OGAM rule. I was told I could get them extended on the spot right now. I have new respect for my police department. BLUELINEFISH - To address your question I am looking for something for home defense and range shooting. Right now I am leaning towards a Glock G22 and a 9mm conversion barrel as the first acquisition. Having .22 cal for the range would be a nice way to save money on Ammo, but I heard the Advantage Arms conversion slides are back ordered a long long time right now I was out shooting with a board member and used his M&P and Beretta and liked both too.

Wow my town, Randolph (Morris County) rocks! I applied for my FID and 4 pistol permits on 1/14/2013. I got my prints done on 1/25/2013. The town mailed out my reference forms on 1/25/2013. One friend turned it back on 1/29/2013 the other on 1/30/2013. This morning 2/11/2013 I got a call that my FID and permits are ready for pickup. So, that is less than two weeks from when the application was compete, and less than 30 days from initial contact Now the fun starts. What handgun should I buy first.

Wow my town, Randolph (Morris County) rocks! I applied for my FID and 4 pistol permits on 1/14/2013. I got my prints done on 1/25/2013. The town mailed out my reference forms on 1/25/2013. One friend turned it back on 1/29/2013 the other on 1/30/2013. This morning 2/11/2013 I got a call that my FID and permits are ready for pickup. So, that is less than two weeks from when the application was compete, and less than 30 days from initial contact.

Very informative video, thanks for sharing.

Well we agree to not agree, that is fine, but there is no reason to get nasty. Please don't tell me what I am incapable of grasping as that only belittles you in that you are not capable of expressing your view and convincing others of your perspective. So, if I don't understand your perspective then please try to explain it to me rather than call names -- thanks. What I have read is that the suspect, "was cut down in a hail of 16 bullets that left him riddled with 10 bullet holes. Nine bystanders were also wounded by what police believe were ricochets, police said." Thus, they fired 16 times yet only 10 of the shots hit their mark. That means they missed 38% of the time - I don't know if that is considered good or bad in that situation - but I would think it should be better than that. I guess my concern is that there is a problem when you fire at one target and end up hitting nine others. Should they have fired at all, I don't know I was not there, but let's assume they should have. All I am saying is that on the surface it seems as if something is lacking in their training when this many shots are fired and there is so much collateral damage. Could I have done better, probably not - but again that is not the issue. The question I have is are they adequately trained. How many times a month do they actually go out and fire a weapon? How often do they actually do any simulations of shooting on crowded city streets. I am sure there have been significant budget trade-offs made and they don't get the training that is really needed for such a situation. That is all I am saying. If this is the best we can expect, well that is just a sad commentary.

I had heard the only shots fired were by the officers. Who is talking about high speed chases in Manhattan? I am talking about most places these days not allowing them on fairly open highways. They take other methods such as enlisting helicopters and other cars to box in the suspect rather than weave through traffic at 100+ mph. Its called using common sense. So, maybe the cops in NYC were right, maybe they were not - the point is every action should be taken to avoid hitting other citizens - they failed in that regard. They fired too many shots at a guy that never fired on them and hit too many bystanders in the process.

I don't recall the specifics, and was in Las Vegas when it happened so the news I saw may not have been 100% accurate. But what I heard was they hit quite a lot of bystanders - and that is not acceptable. Maybe they need more training. Sure they should be able to defend themselves, but there have to be limits as well. Maybe they need to have 3 round magazines as they seem to always find the "need" to empty the entire magazine in NYC. Maybe dictator Cuomo can put limits on them too. Don't get me wrong, I think most cops do a good job. There just have to be safeguards to protect bystandars

Mostly business consulting these days. Have owned small business, worked in chemical plant operations and other things. Why? What do you do?

I have been in at least zero gunfights in midtown during rush hour. That said those cops were dead wrong in shooting if they could not avoid hitting bystanders. In most areas the cops don't engage in high speed pursuits because of the chance of hurting others on the road - they should use the same or greater concern when discharging firearms on busy streets with people present.

Dorner sounds like a real life Rambo! This will not end well for anyone involved.

No sure that is true. Get to know people so they see you as a person rather than as a suspect. Troy (one of the moderators here) introduced me to one of the owners at the local FFL that know him well. He then told the guy that once I get my permits he would come in with me and the three of us would work together to select the correct purchase(s). I think actions like this are the best way to avoid potential problems.

This is crazy. I would explain to them that you are involved on several gun forums and will post this and urge people to vote with their money and go elsewhere. This sounds like the crap some liquor stores do. They have signs up that they will not sell to you if anyone in your group is under 21. No I understand they do this to protect themselves when a group of kids say 19 to 23 come in together. But some won't serve you when you come in with your 15 year old, and others won't serve you when you come in with your baby. This is just another case of taking laws to stupid extremes.

Heck the cops there sound about as good with their guns as the ones in NYC that this summer shot a whole bunch of people outside the Empire State building trying to hit one guy that had a gun. Sounds like these forces really need to spend more money on training and practice so the cops can actually hit what they aim at.

Let's see, if the leftist state of California allowed people to have free access to guns then this crazy would probably have been taken down by a private citizen already - rather than having their keystone cops that can't shoot straight fire on other private citizens.

My idea was using it at 7 to 10 yards in a pistol to be able to see what sort of motion I might be causing during dry firing. My thought process is that might give me more useful feedback than placing a used shell casing on the slide to see if it moves. What do you think?

I was looking at a "Bushnell Laser Boresighter, Battery Powered, with Arbors for .22 through .50 Caliber Firearms & Shotguns" at http://www.adorama.com/BS740100C.html and was wondering if anyone had one of these and if it was useful for dry fire training. Seems like it might be worth the roughly $30. Opinions please. Thanks.

Saw this online from NBC news in Washington, Virginia Woman Pleads Guilty to Multiple Handgun Purchases Woman bought 31 handguns in two weeks to resell (So they are finally starting to go after people that are breaking laws - its about time. The interesting point is the last line that says the VA law of one gun a month was repealed last year. Anyone know how that happened and could such a repeal happen in NJ?) A Manassas woman pleaded guilty to violating federal firearms laws after buying 31 handguns over a two-week span at three Virginia gun shows. Kimberly Dinkins, 41, pleaded guilty Thursday in federal court in Alexandria to dealing firearms without a license. She faces up to five years in prison. Court records show that Dinkins resold all of the guns for a profit. Federal law does not require a person to register as a firearms dealer for occasional private gun sales, but it does require a dealer's license if a person devotes significant time and energy to the sale of firearms with a primary goal of making a profit. A Virginia law limiting individuals to one handgun purchase per month was repealed last year.

From everything I have been told you need to get a 9mm mag.

That guy is a total bozo. Can you actually think he believes the nonsense that a gun cannot be a defensive weapon. Were do they dig these clowns up from?

Does that actually say a magazine cannot be removed from the gun without tools? Does that mean you need to get tools out after you shoot six rounds?

Perhaps its time for the gun control idiots to mandate that cops can no longer carry guns as they can be bad people too. While I say this in jest, it just shows that you never know about anyone and that if more good guys could legally carry guns there would likely be fewer bad guys using theirs!

Should have gone for 15 to the head!

I posted one earlier about the reply I got from my assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll in the 25th (Morris County) which was similarly positive.