wooly bugger

It's not an "update," and it's certainly not "instant." It's going to be a full-on reapplication. Yes, the kind we now wait 6 months for, except with an extra 250,000 applications each year.

Until everyone else is doing the same thing and the system crashes. Think about it. 1 million gun owners = 250k people applying every year for an FID. And it's not a "renewal." It's a full-fledged reapplication.

That took all of 8 seconds. Just do it.

This. Even Cryan balked when he thought about the snowballing costs this will impose. Do you think the state is going to suck it up and just invest heavily in manpower to handle the new volume of 25% of gun owners reapplying for their FID every year? No, we're going to see multi-year backups. As for an invisible endorsement on your DL, how are you going to prove you have a valid ID when ordering ammo online?

And I stated before that I'd be happy to do it as part of a concerted effort. Frank from NJ2AS asked everyone to pick up a CCW permit application a while ago, and I thought that was where things were headed.

I'm used to shooting a T/C Omega with a tight bore, and in between sabots, I have to do a lot of cleaning or it won't fit. For my Hawken percussion and lead bullets and real BP, I notice the fit is less tight, so I could get away without swabbing between shots. Is this a bad idea? What is the optimal procedure for shooting these traditional rifles?

Farsi is a beautiful language. One of my long term goals is to visit Iran

I got to play with an M60 in Vietnam (I mean on a recent visit, not during the war.) I visited the Cu Chi tunnels in Saigon, where the VC hid out, and they had a shooting range where you could shoot all kinds of weapons after paying extremely inflated rates on the ammo. It was fun. I just shot bursts of 4 or 5 so I didn't go through prohibitive amounts of ammo. I'd definitely like a selective fire M-16 if legal.

Bonesinium, are you Korean-American? I'm not, but I've been to Korea several times and learned Hangul by correlating the Hangul on the street signs with the latin letters. It's easy, and every trip to a Korean restaurant becomes a linguistic adventure. My wife loves K drama, so I'm teaching her Hangul and got her Korean language tapes from the library. If I had a language wish, my first would be to speak perfect Japanese. My Japanese sucks, although it will get better, because I'm going there in two weeks and staying a month. My second wish would be to speak better Spanish. Probably the most important second language in this country. If I had a third, I'd like to learn Chinese. I learned some from Pimsler, but I found it hard to continue without a native speaker, because I'd think I'm saying something right, and then I'd get blank stares because my tones were all wrong. Knowing a little Japanese, Korean, and Chinese is interesting, because if you know characters, you can make a lot of correlations between the words. e.g, "Shinsegae" (the department store) = Shinsekai in Japanese. Annae = Annai, etc.

I wish you were right, but in the majority opinion for Heller, they explicitly stated that the decision applied in the home and wasn't meant to be interpreted for outside of the home. When Scalia said "gun control is coming to the SC," I hope and suspect he meant that they'll hear a CCW case in the near future.

Quick-shock already OOS. At high end, Midway has Eley match in stock. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/940222/eley-match-ammunition-22-long-rifle-40-grain-lead-flat-nose-box-of-500-10-boxes-of-50

Cryan must realize that he's made the bill in its current form pretty much unsignable by Christie. Can you imagine Christie signing a bill, which even the greatest anti in the state won't support, due to cost? And how can Cryan vote for it after raising the cost issue himself? I think there's more to this than just posturing. Something has fundamentally changed here.

Does anyone know the fully loaded cost of a government FTE? I know it will differ by pay grade, but I'm just looking for an estimate. I think $100/hr is extremely conservative, considering the pension, healthcare, overhead, etc. It's certainly much less than we use in the private sector, where benefits are less generous. I'm writing a letter to the editor of nj.com, and I'm trying to come up with an estimate for the yearly cost of the new FID. So far I have 250k applicants a year (1MM every 4 years) x 10 hrs/applicant x $100/hr = $250 million/year! I know this isn't perfect. Not every gun owner in NJ is going to go through the hassle of reapplying every year. And it may not actually take 10 man-hours to process an application. But if they're taking 6 months to process them, then, for the sake of argument, I'm going to say it had better take that long, or they've got a lot of explaining to do. To counterbalance these possible overestimates, I'd say $100/hr is definitely low.

I'm torn on whether or not to write to Cryan. He's obviously the enemy and isn't doing this out of any consideration for us. OTOH, if we pretend to believe his explanation that he's blocking it on cost considerations and flood him with support for his newly discovered small government principles, he might think he's accidentally stumbled onto a winning position and stick to it. Since a positive email might actually get read, it's also an opportunity to slip in some talking points, such as a back of the envelope calculation of just how bad the flood of volume will be under the expiring FID option (500k/yr in the first two years, 250k/yr every year thereafter) ON TOP of the existing volume of new applicants. If PDs are taking 6-9 months to process new applicants, they will be completely crushed by the new volume. I think the key will be not to come across as pro-2A people, who he hates anyway, but just to come across as average citizens concerned about the cost of burgeoning government.

That's why Mainor stopped the process. He wants to buy time to make some backroom deal to get this through against the people's wishes.

I tried listening here, but the recording stops after roll call. I'm getting my tin hat ready.... Does anyone have a recording? http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/archive_audio2.asp?KEY=ALP&SESSION=2012

I'm assuming Mainor was the one who illegally halted the proceedings. If we can confirm this, he's going to be hearing from us.... I'm forwarding this story to The Blaze. Hope this gets picked up nationally.

WTF happened??? This is the same committee that rubber stamped all of the monstrosities through the first time. Anyone know which Democrats defected? I'd like to send them a thank you note. Given this development, the Dems can try all the parliamentary tricks they want. I can't see how Christie can sign it.

It's not clear from the story if the guy had a CCW or not, but I'm assuming not if he was arrested. If arresting a guy for illegally carrying in a place where it's so easy to just get a CCW going down the crapper, I fervently hope that NJ will go down that same crapper soon!

My point to the OP wasn't that Heller applies to CCW. He bought up using the individual right argument. This should apply to NJ.

I see a market opening up for a Speedo holster.

Manufacturers are running at full capacity. They can't increase more without capital investment, which wouldn't make sense unless they think this is the new normal. With a manufacturing capacity of over 1 billion rounds a year, it's hard to imagine that the new normal will be much higher, unless there's enough permanent interest in shooting that Americans burn through more than that.

It's funny, during the hearings, more than once I heard someone mention that the large majority of guns come from out of state in the same breath as pushing for more restrictive NJ laws. Something about this topic makes people just turn off the logic centers in their brains.

I thought McDonald found that the 2A is incorporated against the states? So, Heller should apply in NJ.

99% of applicants here are granted, so discretion isn't used as a de facto ban.