maintenanceguy

Feet on the ground. Buy a mailing list of republican households and get people knocking on doors. You'd have to know some demographics about each household and custom taylor the message to each home since not ever Capital R household is a gun household. If you knocked on 1000 doors on the weekend before the election, you might get 50 more people out to vote - some of the elections could be won this way. The problem is the same problem every one of our ideas have - we need people on the ground getting their hands dirty.

I believed it couldn't be done. I heard the plan and now I'm cautiously optimistic. I know it won't be easy but I think it's possible now. The trick is getting enough bodies to show up to spend a day working for the cause. We need bodies. Don't be discouraged. Show up. And why should we do this? 1) We have no choice now. We've thrown down the gauntlet and if we don't succeed there will be hell to pay for daring to stand up to the state bully. 2) Getting rid of the senate president and possible next governor will make gun control the third rail that no NJ politician will want to touch. 3) Out of state money will come. People will donate to things that look successful. Money makes everything happen. With enough money you get to decide what laws NJ passes. 4) The sleeping or scared 1 million in NJ will hear that we FINALLY are starting to win in NJ and they just might come out of hiding and join us.

Nice. You've convinced me not to attend. Thank you.

Maybe. I've always thought so too but apparently the travel "to" and travel "through" thing is a little grey. And all you need is a cop, prosecutor, judge, and jury to interpret it differently than you do - pretty easy things to find in NJ.

Prerequisites?

Are there prerequisites? If you complete the classes, what are you qualified to do?

There are several places in TX that do the training, qualifying, and offer fingerprinting on site. It's certainly possible to fill out the application on line, fly down the evening of day one, take the class and fly back the next evening. I looked into it and it could all be done for about $750 including travel, hotel, permit fees, and class fees. Could completed over a weekend.

Posted on the old NJ2AS facebook page. Now you know where they stand. I'm going to let them know where I stand on their facedbook page

I know nothing about Rockwell Arms but I know the BBB is a scam. When I was in business they contacted me. The claimed that a customer had complained but for $600 I could become a BBB "Approved" business and someone would be assigned to me to help resolve the matter favorably. It was clear that for $600 I could buy an A rating. I refused and never heard back about the made up complaint - it probably never existed because no customers had complained to me.

Huh? Are you a NJ resident wanting some sort of permit from another state or not a NJ resident wanting some sort of permit from NJ? And what type of permit do you want?

In NJ he'd be charged with possession for an unlawful purpose because he obviously intended to kill somebody or he wouldn't have had a gun. Jury would find him guilty after the prosecutor convinced them he a reckless maniac who was hunting down this poor disenfranchised saint who came from a poverty stricken broken home and just needed love. The Judge would give the maximum sentence without the possibility of parole.

If we could get permits by May 30.

Never been to that range but that's how I always do it with young kids - or brand new shooters. One shot loaded at a time. If anything goes wrong- it can't go wrong more than once.

...Huge difference between Colorado and here. We do not really have a gun culture, they do. The politicians out there know that even democrats have guns and will vote on that issue. We have close to the lowest percentage of gun ownership, and in this state even republicans are anti-gun.... Some counties still do. 2/3 of Sweeney's district has a gun culture.

I've read your comments for a long time and heard you talk about a winnable strategy to swing NJ away from being a blue state. I see some issues with this. It's not only NJ's democrats that hate guns. A victory would have to be won every election to keep NJ from ever going blue again. If your strategy works, nothing stops the other side from steeling it. There are vulnerable republicans too. I'm not suggesting that "recall Sweeney", "apply to be denied", "jury nullification", "get out the vote", busing people to Trenton, supporting Almeida, SAPPA, or any of the other ideas are sure wins. In fact, I've got some sort of reservation about every single one of these. I share many of your concerns about each of these projects. However, I am glad that I was able to fill an entire line of this post with the various projects that are happening in NJ. I'm glad that someone in NJ decided to stand up and start these projects and that there are people who are trying to accomplish each one of these. This was not the case 3 or 4 years ago when nobody was doing anything to restore our rights. If you believe that you have a better way - do it. You can present your data here, convince a group that it makes sense and maybe you'll be the one to achieve success. There are enough gun owners in NJ to support many, many of these projects and maybe yours will spark an interest in some of those who aren't currently involved and get them involved. I would prefer that NJ2AS was focusing on my favorite project instead of Recall Sweeney. In fact, I've still got a bitter taste in my mouth from when I was told I could no longer participate in NJ2AS business. But I just signed up to be a member again last week and plan to be in district 1 knocking on doors - if the new management team will allow it. I see only two choices: fight or don't fight. If you're inclined to fight, you'll have to either join somebody else's fight or start your own fight. If you're not inclined to fight, tearing down those who are trying to make a difference - even if it's not the "right way" - is not helpful.

The last time there was a ban, a tiny percentage were registered/distroyed/sold out of state. The rest were quietly put away in the safe. I'm assuming that the NJSP has now scanned the log books for every FFL that has gone out of business in the last 30 years and that they're collecting photos of log book pages as they make compliance visits to FFLs. If all of our rifles aren't already registered, they are being cataloged now. I still don't think we'll have to worry about anybody going door to door- even though I believe they have the names and addresses. Too many people would get hurt.

Bought one for my 15 yo daughter to shoot about 6 months ago. She could shoot my other handguns but was uncomfortable with the larger calibers. It's a great gun! We were going back and forth between the Buckmark and the Ruger Mark III or 22/45. I think both are good guns but I'm glad we got the Buckmark.

+1,000,000 bonus points!

Not sure. I didn't buy any. All the mini-mags I've ever bought were round nose, I don't know if they make both in the mini-mag.

Cabelas in DE had a shelf full of mini-mags this afternoon and they were stocking more. 8.87 per 100 ct. Not close to Toms River though.

Yes, but it wasn't to protect us from having our private info in the papers. They'd love to publicly "shame" us for owning guns. They made the list private to protect them. They don't want us to know how many anti-gun politicians, their wives, their kids, etc. have carry permits. I wouldn't be shocked if Loretta Winer and Steven Swiney were on the list.

I know nothing about what's happening but I know that nothing every happens in the time frame that it was planned. 2 weeks usually means 5 - and it's not always anybody's fault other than the guy who was optimistic in his estimate.

I'm sure the carry list is a who's who of NJ political and judge's families. I'd love to have that list to exploit it.

Unless the customer agreed to the disclosure as a condition of purchase, this gun shop did the right thing.