MauserCollector

Quick Check 2.69 cash or credit. Station that was 2.19 is 2.49. Haven't seen crazy price gouging in Western Monmouth or Southern Middlesex Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Actually didn't research at all other than typing in Purpura gets SCOTUS docket number. Then I copy pasted the previous case from another site which was the first search result. I think I also said I support any effort. I wouldn't support this one monetarily, but I support it none the less. However I want to know if docket number actually means anything. Purpura has filed 3 other writs with SCOTUS so he should know. I am curious why SCOTUS was petitioned for a divorce case. I also believe it is important if it is legit or not because if people are donating money towards something that is not, that is money being taken from something that could be. I thought this was a novel idea from the beginning but I was disheartened to see a divorce case petitioned to SCOTUS. Personally I think this case is going nowhere, and for that matter no 2A Case will go anywhere until Trump gets another Justice on the Court. Ideally Kennedy will be stepping down in a year. God willing Ginsburg will be gone too.

Most stations I saw today were $2.49-2.59. Didn't pass the cheap station today but will in the morning. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Does the docket number being issued really mean anything. I fully support this action because anything is worth a shot, but I don't want to get people's hopes up over nothing. Mr Papura didn't you have a docket number issued by SCOTUS for your divorce? No. 01-9804 Status: DECIDED Title: Nicholas E. Purpura, Petitioner v. Barbara Purpura Docketed: Lower Ct: Court of Appeals of New York April 23, 2002 (Mo. No. 987) ~~Date~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Apr 16 2002 Petition for writ of certiorari and motion for leave to proceed in forma pauperis filed. (Response due May 23, 2002) Apr 23 2002 Motion of petitioner to expedite consideration of the petition filed. May 3 2002 Waiver of right of respondents Barbara Purpura, et al. to respond filed. Jun 5 2002 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of June 20, 2002 Jun 24 2002 Petition DENIED. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

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Federal Courts are not controlled by NJ. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

It is new era we are living in. This is the MAGA Era. Who thought they would strike down or issue injunctions to all the Anti 2A Laws in CA. The most Liberal Circuit in the country? Literally not a single law that was passed and signed last year has gone into effect in California. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Stations are gouging. I saw $2.19 today at one station for cash, same price it has been. The one down the street went from $2.27 cash or credit to $2.59 to $2.79 today. No chance they received a $.52/gallon increase. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Being Prepared or Being a Slave to Your Master? I'm sure the Liberals will pass a bunch of make them feel good Anti-2A legislation, and it will all be meaningless when an injunction is issued and it is struck down by the Courts. Trump has 3 Vacancies to fill in NJ plus 2 Judicial Emergencies and a dozen Vacancies to fill in the 3rd Circuit as a Whole with one more coming. Most importantly Trump will get 3 nominations to the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals.

Exactly. I wouldn't use that dealer anymore. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

The permit thing definitely backfired. Only once have I let them expire so almost every time I want one handgun I buy 3. Then if I want more than 3 I can file for an exemption to OGAM. Really makes no sense. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I wasn't using it for my argument. I agreed to disagree until someone has a letter from the AG. I was being serious that they probably should change the wording before some Lib sees it. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

For the law of course it is, but Henry should probably update their website since they refer to it as a walnut stock and a cut down, modified rifle. https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/mares-leg/ Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Like I said we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I do agree Mare's Leg is a pistol too. AG needs to clarify Luger IMO. What about the MAS-49 and commercially available ammo in the definition of antique? I say MAS-49 is good to go and commercially available should mean readily able to buy at retail store in NJ. Also does anyone know if Lahti L-35 is exempt federally? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I'll agree with that, but the Mare's Leg looks a lot more like a sawed off shotgun than the Luger does. Wouldn't the intent of the law be to ban something like the Mare's Leg rather than the Luger? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

We will have to agree to disagree about the Mare's Leg. That stock is just as functional as a Luger's Stock IMO. If a Mare's Leg isn't a Sawed Off Shotgun under NJ Law then neither should a Luger with a factory stock be a sawed off shotgun. Assuming they both left the factory with the stock attached. The Mare's Leg started life as a rifle. The Luger started as a Pistol. The Mare's Leg is more a Rifle than a Luger ever will be. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I know we are going around in circles, but why is a Mare's Leg never a Rifle but a Luger becomes a rifle? Say Luger is in box the way it left the factory and the stock is attached why is that a Rifle or sawed off shotgun but the Mare's Leg is not? I understand adding a repro stock to a Luger could be an issue but I am talking about a Luger that was made with the stock like a Mare's Leg is made with a stock. What is the difference?

I thought we agreed federal law doesn't really matter when it comes to NJ law pertaining to sawed off shotguns? NJ Law doesn't use the term SBR does it? So because the Luger stock can be removed it is no good? Can the mare's leg stock be removed? I honestly don't know. If it can why is that ok? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Wouldn't that be exactly the same as a Luger with a stock? One that came from the factory with the stock. I don't think anyone would call it a rifle. Mare's Leg was one of them I was referencing thank you for the name. I know it's off topic, but I can change the title for those that get upset rather than starting a new topic, what is your opinion on MAS-49 and Antique Longguns? Seems NJ only differs by where they included cartridge ammunition that is not commercially available. Which makes the definition of commercially available important?

I am in agreement Supremacy Clause does not apply to this situation. Well it does because NJ Firearms Laws are all Unconstitutional as are most Federal Laws, but that is for another day. Looking at just NJ Law and why are these newer pistols legal, but a Luger is not.

That is what I meant by doesn't apply here. NJ law is really regarding Sawed off Shotgun not Short Barreled Rifle. So we are in agreement about the Federal and NJ part. The first sentence of my last post was a general question you could replace SBR with Apples. Meaning can NJ say something is legal or illegal or defined as or not that the Federal Government specifically says is the opposite? However getting into the definition of rifle, shotgun, handgun, and sawed off shotgun I don't think it is so open and shut. For instance some of these "pistols" I see that are new and NJ Legal. I don't know new firearms but[mention=3597]Remixer[/mention] maybe able to chime in with the names. One was a small Lever Action. Another was an AR Pistol. The third was some other ugly thing in 5 and 7 that someone picked up a couple weeks ago. I certainly could have shouldered all 3 of them. Why wouldn't the Luger with stock be the same thing? Meaning one that came from the factory with the stock.

Yes I am referring to Lugers with original stocks. I think for the Lahti L-35 I am beat. Unless I drop $10k on one with an original factory stock, but even then I'm not sure Federal Law exempts the Lahti. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Wouldn't NJ calling something a SBR that Federal Law says isn't be contrary to Federal Law? However in this case I don't think it actually applies the more I look at it. The question really is does adding the stock to a pistol originally designed as a pistol make it a sawed off shotgun? Being it was never a Rifle or Shotgun by the definition of of a Rifle or Shotgun and a Sawed Off Shotgun must be one of the two. It seems to me it is chicken or egg type situation. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

While on the subject of NJ Laws that I have never been able to get a definitive answer on what about MAS-49 in NJ? My understanding is the MAS-49/56 is legal because there is not a bayonet lug because the bayonet slips over the barrel. Leaving just one "evil feature" the grenade launcher. I would say the same argument applies to the MAS-49 being it's bayonet slips into a tube also not a bayonet lug. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

From reading past threads there are at least 2 members on the forum in NJ that have Lugers with stocks that have said it is legal. I am not sold on it being illegal. Regardless it really doesn't apply to me because I can't find where a Lahti L-35 is exempt under Federal Law. As for the whole antique thing. It seems NJ law is really only different than Federal Law when it comes to handguns and Mosins. It seems most other longguns are Antiques in NJ. 8mm Mauser S I wouldn't call commercially available and for that matter neither is 7mm Mauser with Round Nose Bullet. You could even argue that Finnish M/28-30 without D Mark but with Antique Receiver falls under having ammo not commercially available, 7.62x53R you will not find in any NJ Gun Shop. a."Antique firearm" means any rifle or shotgun and "antique cannon" means a destructive device defined in paragraph (3) of subsection c. of this section, if the rifle, shotgun or destructive device, as the case may be, is incapable of being fired or discharged, or which does not fire fixed ammunition, regardless of date of manufacture, or was manufactured before 1898 for which cartridge ammunition is not commercially available, and is possessed as a curiosity or ornament or for its historical significance or value. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk