MauserCollector

I disagree though because of the Supremacy Clause as well. The Luger is explicitly not a SBR and is allowed under Federal Law. NJ saying it is an SBR would be contrary to Federal Law. If Federal Law didn't mention the Luger Specifically that would be different. I agree a sawed off shotgun in NJ is a Rifle or Shotgun but a Luger is neither. I think the originally designed part is important in the definition of what is a handgun. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I agree. Also there is the matter of the Supremacy Clause that says states do not have the power to nullify federal law. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Now the way I read sawed off shotgun it says any shotgun. Which a Luger is not. Rifle which a Luger is not. Or any firearm made from a rifle or shotgun which a Luger is not. Here is the definition of a rifle 2C:39-1 Definitions. k."Handgun" means any pistol, revolver or other firearm originally designed or manufactured to be fired by the use of a single hand. That is a Luger. States Originally Designed with use of a single hand. m."Rifle" means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger. That is not a Luger even with stock added because the firearm wasn't designed to be fired from the shoulder. n."Shotgun" means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shots or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger, or any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder which does not fire fixed ammunition. Definitely not a Luger with or without stock because bore is not smooth.

I have read multiple threads on here dating back to 2009 and there was no clear answer. Seemed those who are usually overly cautious say it is not legal and others said it is. Does anyone have any proof as to the legality. I am only referring to those models explicitly exempted under federal law. It is not a shotgun so it does not become a sawed off shot gun with a stock as I saw one member posted in an earlier thread. It should not be a SBR since federally law explicitly says it is not a SBR. There certainly is no tax stamp needed for the models that are exempt. That brings us to NJ law and it's pitfalls. Could NJ even pass a law that is contrary to federal law? This is not a situation where it is not banned under federal law, but is explicitly allowed under federal law. Lastly I know certain Broomhandles and Radom pistols are also exempt under federal law but what about Lahti Pistols. Specifically Finnish L-35 Lahtis. There were only 50 Finnish Stocks made but Swedish Lahti Stocks can fit on a Finnish Lahti. Is that allowed under federal law? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Thank you. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Finally rifles with wood stocks. I was there Saturday not only was this Hakim on the wall but there was an Italian Made Fausti Super 88 Excelsior 12 gauge double barrel. Both Hakim and Super 88 were matching. Both were at great prices. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Thank you for that info@Griz I didn't know they were still arresting people for marijuana in Colorado. So much for the savings on enforcement and incarceration. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

My only interest is the cost of enforcement and housing those convicted of marijuana charges. Is there a spike in accident fatalities because they are accident now reporting marijuana usage? I was more comparing marijuana to alcohol. If there was a drug that should be illegal it probably is alcohol, but we tried that once and it didn't turn out very well. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

With marijuana being legal or decriminalized in so many states they should change federal law. Personally I never liked it, but it is a lot less damaging than alcohol. Never heard about anyone getting pot muscles, doesn't cause cirrhosis of the liver, and is a lot less likely to lead to a fatal accident. As far as gateway drug the first drug most people ingest is alcohol. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Definitely would not pay $100 for any boxing bout. Especially one involving Mayweather. Woke up early and there were plenty of American Pay Per View versions online for free. For the most part fight went as expected. I thought McGregor showed better boxing skills than I and most others thought he would, but his only chance to win was brawling not boxing. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Is there any estimates to how many of the 60,000 survive today? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

When you get a 1911 get the original, a USGI Colt or a 1911a1 Colt or Remington Rand. Here is my 1919 Colt Black Army. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Congrats. I couldn't believe the prices they were going for. 10 years ago they were $700. 350% increase in price is a lot, but the demand must be there. How many are estimated to be out there? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Watch the real tiki torch march video. I was never great at Where's Waldo, but I couldn't find any Neo-Nazi, Skinhead, Klan, Aryan Nation, or any other White Trash. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Obama used the IRS to go after a few of the shops. There was a TV about one of them I believe the store was called the Bay Area Cooperative. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I'm sure we all get wrapped up in debates. I wouldn't call it chest thumping, but wanting to be right and thus competitiveness. What I don't get is the complaining and posting about threads being a waste of time and bandwidth. You would think the servers were near capacity, but if that was the case wouldn't not posting and instead ignoring the thread make more sense. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

No. Soros funded. Antifa is paid Agent Provocateurs. Same goes for those supposed leaders of Unite the Right Rally. Not one real White Supremacist group was in Charlottesville. They intentionally stayed away. Show me evidence of White Supremacists in Charlottesville. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Who is backing anyone into a corner? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Yet you both are still read and commenting on it. I see this often on forums. It is a phenomenon I can not quite figure out. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

Why do people bother commenting on threads being a waste of time? Wouldn't it be less of a waste of time to just not read and certainly not reply? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

@Griz you are correct however future SCOTUS can overturn incorrect decisions of previous SCOTUS. I believe both the incorrect interpretation of the 2nd Amendment and Overreach of the 14th Amendment will be overturned. When the 2nd Amendment is interpreted correctly laws that infringe on the ownership or carry of firearms will be ruled Unconstitutional. Once that happens no state can pass any law that will infringe on RTKB Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

No state law can be in violation of the Constitution. The 10th can not be used to violate the 2nd. States have gotten away with it due to the Militia part. Just like a state could not violate the 1st Amendment because of the 10th. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I think those in free states don't see open carry being a big deal, wherever it is, because their rights are secure like our forefathers intended. Until the Supreme Court Rules on what keep and bear arms and will not be infringed means nothing will change in Red or Blue States. I was positive about National Reciprocity Bill but at this point it is a pipe dream. They didn't have the votes to stop it, but the MSM made the Sheeple look at the shiny object first Fake Russian Story now Fake White Supremacists Story. While the sheeple are staring at the shiny object nothing is getting done. I have to give it to the Left they are good at Propaganda. As long as the brain dead continue to listen to their Union Leaders in NJ and vote Democrat or refuse to vote Republican because the nominee is "too religious" or Pro-Life it doesn't matter if people open carry or don't carry at all. Democrats will not suddenly take a Pro-2A stance. Blue States will remain Blue and will continue to lose 2A Rights until the Supreme Court finally steps in. If you care about 2A stop voting Democrat. Take a stand and tell your union rep you will not support Murphy. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I agree if you don't normally carry you should not carry just to incite fear or violence. The Militia guys I used to think were completely crazy and many probably are. However the ones in Charlottesville prevented more violence. If the police are going to listen to their Liberal Masters in these cities and stand down there maybe a place for these groups being armed and in the open. The reason I bring up the lies of the MSM about it being a White Supremacist Rally is that many here have fallen for the lies. Here is a raw video of the torch march. It is pretty clear they are saying "You Will Not Replace Us". Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk

I am 100% positive those pics of all the people with torches is from Charlottesville Friday Night. Pretty sure was being used sarcastically, since the MSM said they are from Charlottesville Torch Ceremony, and they have lied about so many other pics. When you can present your evidence of Real White Supremacists being present at the Unite the Right Rally in Charlottesville I am ready to listen. Please See my previous post where the MSM is using photos from other events and saying it was the same rally before posting them as evidence. I love the tin foil hat commenting crowd. The same people don't even know what Operation Northwoods or Operation Gladio were, and they are more than happy to live like a mushroom, kept in the dark and fed crap. These are the pics you get from the MSM when you search White Supremacists at Unite the Right Rally. Then WAPO says these are White Supremacists in their captions. Why are they White Supremacists and not just Proud Southerners?? Another Torch Lighting pic too. Please pic out the Neo Nazi? Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk