This site is getting more posts about how cops are corrupt, evil or just a**holes. It is getting tedious. We are a smart bunch here. Not all cops are bad it is a small percentage like most large groups. Any sizable organization will have members that are corrupt, inept or uninformed. But where would we be as a society if we did not have cops to keep the evil at bay?? So let's stop making generalizations about cops and there superior attitude. Yes there are bad cops if you wish to post and comment make it on a case by case basis please.

 

I am not a cop ask Maks or Tim.

Were there a proponderence of posts? Did I miss something?

wolfy, I heard you were the 44 mag police now.. :mrgreen:

There are a select few who post here and on other forums that are the bashers. Notes have been taken.

Notes have been taken? Really......

Notes have been taken? Really......

 

Yeah... I was wondering if that was some kind of threat?

 

That really fosters fellowship...

 

Unless it was a joke...

There are a select few who post here and on other forums that are the bashers. Notes have been taken.

 

 

:violin:

Notes have been taken? Really......

 

Yeah... I was wondering if that was some kind of threat?

 

That really fosters fellowship...

 

Unless it was a joke...

 

 

Welll one of our posters has delcared i;m on his "Foe List" whatever that is...LOTS of Fellowship there.

Notes have been taken? Really......

 

Yeah... I was wondering if that was some kind of threat?

 

That really fosters fellowship...

 

Unless it was a joke...

 

 

Welll one of our posters has delcared i;m on his "Foe List" whatever that is...LOTS of Fellowship there.

 

were making lists now? as if the national (you can't get on a flight even though your a U.S. Citizen) list wasn't enough. :naughty:

I agree with Wolfy. The last week or so gave me the distinct feeling of anti-cop sentiment.

Cops are people too. I think some people have unrealistic expectations. Personally, I give respect and the benefit of the doubt to the police officer. You may not think they're being fair at some point, but there's usually a very good reason if you ask.

I have run into my fair share of cops behaving badly, but for the most part I can see their side....although I still watch my ass in Bayville.

Notes have been taken? Really......

 

Yeah... I was wondering if that was some kind of threat?

 

That really fosters fellowship...

 

Unless it was a joke...

 

 

Welll one of our posters has delcared i;m on his "Foe List" whatever that is...LOTS of Fellowship there.

 

Kpd- "Foe List" is stupid. Though as you know, you and I disagree from time to time... but I would never consider you a foe and have respect for you. So take it frome where it's coming from when you're on a "Foe List"

Honestly, I suggest this entire thread be scrapped. They NEVER turn out well........

I don't understand people who would bash or have anti sentiments towards the law enforcement community. It almost seems like people have a sort of respect for military and other first responders-- how does this somehow exclude LEOs? Sure, there are bad apples, but there are bad apples everywhere.

 

But in defense of the community as a whole, what makes the job/lifestyle so difficult, IMO, for LEOs is not necessarily the work (and the "work" they take home), but the very public expectations that they have to live up to for themselves, as well as the projections by society (some of those being unrealistic).

In comparison, the military is a terribly horrible institution that gets away with a lot of sh-t that would NEVER fly in the normal way of life. There are some things that wouldn't be accepted that I do believe function for the better (wall-to-wall counseling, most of UCMJ). But there are other aspects of the military that make my skin crawl (low recruiting standards, training standards, low tolerance for color/belief/gender). But because the military either operates behind a fence in garrison away from prying eyes, or in far away countries where the only feed is through the media (if that)-- they are seen as champions and patriots and heroes alike. When people have tried to show these other sides of the military, they have often been met by criticism or the situations are swept under the rug or defended (WikiLeaks excluded, everybody involved with that should be thrown into Fed pen). There are plenty of events that I would defend myself (Gitmo, secret prisons, aggressive interrogations, certain applications of intelligence disciplines, etc), but I know that even though I believe these actions are necessary and right-- they should also face the necessary criticism as well. And the thugs and other punks in the service should be outed as well for criticism.

 

My point being, I won't defend the bad apples in the law enforcement community-- however, its uncalled for and unnecessary to create a negative group-think about a community because of actions in the past of a few (speaking in the big picture). If we all carried the sins of our fathers on our backs... well, you get the point.

 

ETA: I obviously do not hold any negative sentiments regarding the military-- but there is no denying its ugly side. I had the opportunity to be a part of the smaller minority of the military, while focusing on the much larger picture... and it let me see things from an almost outsider perspective. Regardless, my respects to my brothers and sisters still in the fight, as well as all first responders.

I don't understand people who would bash or have anti sentiments towards the law enforcement community. It almost seems like people have a sort of respect for military and other first responders-- how does this somehow exclude LEOs? Sure, there are bad apples, but there are bad apples everywhere.

 

But in defense of the community as a whole, what makes the job/lifestyle so difficult, IMO, for LEOs is not necessarily the work (and the "work" they take home), but the very public expectations that they have to live up to for themselves, as well as the projections by society (some of those being unrealistic).

In comparison, the military is a terribly horrible institution that gets away with a lot of sh-t that would NEVER fly in the normal way of life. There are some things that wouldn't be accepted that I do believe function for the better (wall-to-wall counseling, most of UCMJ). But there are other aspects of the military that make my skin crawl (low recruiting standards, training standards, low tolerance for color/belief/gender). But because the military either operates behind a fence in garrison away from prying eyes, or in far away countries where the only feed is through the media (if that)-- they are seen as champions and patriots and heroes alike. When people have tried to show these other sides of the military, they have often been met by criticism or the situations are swept under the rug or defended (WikiLeaks excluded, everybody involved with that should be thrown into Fed pen). There are plenty of events that I would defend myself (Gitmo, secret prisons, aggressive interrogations, certain applications of intelligence disciplines, etc), but I know that even though I believe these actions are necessary and right-- they should also face the necessary criticism as well. And the thugs and other punks in the service should be outed as well for criticism.

 

My point being, I won't defend the bad apples in the law enforcement community-- however, its uncalled for and unnecessary to create a negative group-think about a community because of actions in the past of a few (speaking in the big picture). If we all carried the sins of our fathers on our backs... well, you get the point.

 

ETA: I obviously do not hold any negative sentiments regarding the military-- but there is no denying its ugly side. I had the opportunity to be a part of the smaller minority of the military, while focusing on the much larger picture... and it let me see things from an almost outsider perspective. Regardless, my respects to my brothers and sisters still in the fight, as well as all first responders.

 

Comparing LEO and Military is like apples and oranges.

The comparision can not be made.

The comparison is not in the institution themselves-- but how the public interaction and projection of society's expectations create an impression of said institutions vs. the realities of said institutions. In this application, the comparison works just fine.

Cant we all just get along ?????

There are a select few who post here and on other forums that are the bashers. Notes have been taken.

 

Before this thread inevitably ends up in the shithouse, I'd like you to kindly elaborate on that statement.

This site is getting more posts about how cops are corrupt, evil or just a**holes. It is getting tedious. We are a smart bunch here. Not all cops are bad it is a small percentage like most large groups. Any sizable organization will have members that are corrupt, inept or uninformed. But where would we be as a society if we did not have cops to keep the evil at bay?? So let's stop making generalizations about cops and there superior attitude. Yes there are bad cops if you wish to post and comment make it on a case by case basis please.

 

I find that personal experiences with local police, mixed with all of the bad press, has shaped my feelings about them. A few bad apples may have been the cause of that, but they are the ones that asked and have been given the authority over us all. Public perception of the police is HUGE in my opinion. I think since I've been around that perception has gone down the toilet and cops these days are doing nothing to fix it. The police I've run into lately come off as a**holes, lazy, careless, and dishonest to the badge and laws they swore to uphold. I'm sure you all have personally seen it... cop talkin on the cell phone while driving around, speeding without reason, tailgating people, not using turn signals, etc etc. Then they turn around and give a citation to someone for the same thing? Damn have some friggin honor! I'm not even gonna to talk about the TONS of cases of cops involved in serious crimes lately. Lead by example if you want respect!!! Your ACTIONS determine the respect you receive, not the badge or the uniform!!! The same principal applies for EVERYONE, not just cops.

 

Everyone here has a right to their opinion. If a case by case is what you want, I can start posting every time I see a cop doing some illegal crap. Probably a few times a week. THAT will get tedious. I'll start out by saying that today on my bike ride I saw a cop driving down the street talking on the cell phone. Cops -1 respect.

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I am not a cop ask Maks or Tim.

But he does play one on TV

There are a select few who post here and on other forums that are the bashers. Notes have been taken.

Guys, Paul is Joking. Lighten up.

 

Not all Cops are Assholes, not all Muslims are Terrorists, not all Dems are Antis, not all Glocks go Kaboom, Moss 500's are just as good as Rem 870's, and 9mm and 45 Acp are both good HD calibers. Anything I forgot.

Not all Cops are Assholes false, not all Muslims are Terroristsfalse, not all Dems are Antisfalse, not all Glocks go Kaboomfalse, Moss 500's are just as good as Rem 870'sfalse, and 9mm and 45 Acp are both good HD calibersfalse.

Not all Cops are Assholes false, not all Muslims are Terroristsfalse, not all Dems are Antisfalse, not all Glocks go Kaboomfalse, Moss 500's are just as good as Rem 870'sfalse, and 9mm and 45 Acp are both good HD calibersfalse.

Troublemaker

Troublemaker false

 

not all Glocks go Kaboom

Indeed! You should buy one already

I think some of the cop bashing might even be out of jealousy towards the officers who work in low-crime towns and get an awesome pension!! :mrgreen:

not all Glocks go Kaboom

Indeed! You should buy one already

never

 

I find that personal experiences with local police, mixed with all of the bad press, has shaped my feelings about them. A few bad apples may have been the cause of that, but they are the ones that asked and have been given the authority over us all. Public perception of the police is HUGE in my opinion. I think since I've been around that perception has gone down the toilet and cops these days are doing nothing to fix it. The police I've run into lately come off as a**holes, lazy, careless, and dishonest to the badge and laws they swore to uphold. I'm sure you all have personally seen it... cop talkin on the cell phone while driving around, speeding without reason, tailgating people, not using turn signals, etc etc. Then they turn around and give a citation to someone for the same thing? Damn have some friggin honor! I'm not even gonna to talk about the TONS of cases of cops involved in serious crimes lately. Lead by example if you want respect!!! Your ACTIONS determine the respect you receive, not the badge or the uniform!!! The same principal applies for EVERYONE, not just cops.

 

Everyone here has a right to their opinion. If a case by case is what you want, I can start posting every time I see a cop doing some illegal crap. Probably a few times a week. THAT will get tedious. I'll start out by saying that today on my bike ride I saw a cop driving down the street talking on the cell phone. Cops -1 respect.

 

Well said. This is pretty much exactly how I feel.

 

edit... It seems you can't go a single day without seeing some cop getting in trouble for something these days.

If you don't like cops and you get off posting it on a public forum thats your business. Trying to be politicaly correct so you don't offend some JO thats looking to be offended by something is what bothers me. If you don't like what your reading go someplace else. This is still AMERICA. :shock:

 

 

Heres a link for the easily offended, to something a little softer and politicaly correct:

http://www.rachelmaddow.com/

I hate everyone, So I don't see an issue.

Notes have been taken? Really......

 

Yeah... I was wondering if that was some kind of threat?

 

That really fosters fellowship...

 

Unless it was a joke...

 

 

Welll one of our posters has delcared i;m on his "Foe List" whatever that is...LOTS of Fellowship there.

 

Kpd- "Foe List" is stupid. Though as you know, you and I disagree from time to time... but I would never consider you a foe and have respect for you. So take it frome where it's coming from when you're on a "Foe List"

 

I pretty much laughed at the whole thing more than anything else OS...