I like to support local businesses when i can but I hate that ammo prices are so different. SgAmmo carries cases of Winchester 9mm NATO for around $13 a box with shipping when you order it in a case. Why locally can't i find it for less than $17 with tax. It's hard to justify going local when you spend an extra $35 per order on an expendable.

 

Sorry rant over.

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Its the cost of marketing.. rent.. electric and so on. A virtual website cost what 400-500 a year im guessing and renting a ware house is cheaper then all that other crap i bet in other states. And u dont need alot of employees i would think. I guess my rant is that cost of operation is less for a web based comoany then a actual store front

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For the same reason that a pack of gum costs you $1.50 at the 7-11 versus $0.25 when bought in a box of 20 from Amazon.

 

You need it NOW!? Pay up!

Its the cost of marketing.. rent.. electric and so on. A virtual website cost what 400-500 a year im guessing and renting a ware house is cheaper then all that other crap i bet in other states. And u dont need alot of employees i would think. I guess my rant is that cost of operation is less for a web based comoany then a actual store front

 

I agree that is the biggest reason online is so much cheaper than brick & mortar. With an expendable like ammo, is is a no brainer.

For the same reason that a pack of gum costs you $1.50 at the 7-11 versus $0.25 when bought in a box of 20 from Amazon.

 

You need it NOW!? Pay up!

 

The difference is I'm willing to pay $1 for a pack of gum. I'm not willing to pay $35 a case of ammo. I am willing to pay more. As I prefer to shop locally. Just not that much more. I wonder how much lost sales they have by not being more competitive. If I need one box. Ill pay local fees. But if I'm smart and buy a case ill go online unfortunately.

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Plain and simple... it's overhead and volume purchasing.

 

It is tough for a mom and pop store to get the same purchasing discount buying a few cases of ammo as their online mega counterparts buying up thousands of cases. Same goes for firearms.

 

You can pay a little more to support your local gun shop, or you can continually buy the online. Just know that as the brick and mortar stores close one by one because it is not profitable, you will run the risk of not having a place to physically handle the product you wish to purchase. All your futures purchases going beyond ammo might have to be sight unseen. Would I buy a case at a LGS? Perhaps not. But for the extra few bucks for a few boxes of bullets it's worth supporting a local retailer.

Plain and simple... it's overhead and volume purchasing.

 

It is tough for a mom and pop store to get the same purchasing discount buying a few cases of ammo as their online mega counterparts buying up thousands of cases. Same goes for firearms.

 

You can pay a little more to support your local gun shop, or you can continually buy the online. Just know that as the brick and mortar stores close one by one because it is not profitable, you will run the risk of not having a place to physically handle the product you wish to purchase. All your futures purchases going beyond ammo might have to be sight unseen. Would I buy a case at a LGS? Perhaps not. But for the extra few bucks for a few boxes of bullets it's worth supporting a local retailer.

I'm all for supporting Mom and Pop stores if they are in the business of supporting and catering to me... The customer. We've been down this road many a time so I'll refrain from the whole customer service at gun shops issue yet again but on another note ,I'm not so sure your claim of stores closing hold water. I read about gun shops and ranges opening on a regular basis recently. Perhaps the ones that are closing lost touch with their customer base and had no choice.

Mailorder ammo is cheaper than the mom and pop store can buy it wholesale. For instance Estate target loads 12ga cost is $5.26/ box. Is the mom and pop allowed to tack $2 on?

 

Buy what you can locally and they'll be there for you in the future/

Especially if the online ammo band happens

I'm all for supporting Mom and Pop stores if they are in the business of supporting and catering to me... The customer. We've been down this road many a time so I'll refrain from the whole customer service at gun shops issue yet again but on another note ,I'm not so sure your claim of stores closing hold water. I read about gun shops and ranges opening on a regular basis recently. Perhaps the ones that are closing lost touch with their customer base and had no choice.

 

The ones that are opening are selling labor and services. Not hard goods.

Especially if the online ammo band happens

 

Its the cost of marketing.. rent.. electric and so on. A virtual website cost what 400-500 a year im guessing and renting a ware house is cheaper then all that other crap i bet in other states. And u dont need alot of employees i would think. I guess my rant is that cost of operation is less for a web based comoany then a actual store front

 

Sg ammo is a brick and mortar. Look at the pictures of their warehouse. There is no reason for local NJ businesses to charge so much. I am sure they can buy it for the same price as sg ammo, or another "online" dealer.

What gets me is why ammoman.com think they have the best deals in country when almost every deal they email me can be beaten EASILY almost anywhere else online! Shame as they are in NJ and I'd happily do the 50 mile drive, if only it was worth it!

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You wouldnt say you have "ok deals" in comparison to your competition would you? even if it's a blatant lie

 

and lol Paul .

 

 

Why cant BestBuy sell TVs cheaper than other online retailers? Costs associated with doing business.

It's not tacking on 2 dollars... It's not like 3-5

Sg ammo is a brick and mortar. Look at the pictures of their warehouse. There is no reason for local NJ businesses to charge so much. I am sure they can buy it for the same price as sg ammo, or another "online" dealer.

 

If the local business can afford to invest a large sum into buying the ammo (or anything else for that matter) up front, then yes they probably can get it in at the same price as sgammo or similar retailer. I think where the issue comes in is not alot of small businesses can afford to invest as much as it takes to get the bulk dealer pricing (in sgammo's case it looks like they have 1 million + wrapped up in inventory).

 

When you are only buying by the case or even a few cases at a time there is no way to compete. We run into a similar scenario with my families store with many products, and we have had to shift our store assortment to things people can't/don't want to buy online.

 

It's great to be able to find products online dirt cheap, and we all benefit from it to a degree, but don't assume that the local store selling a box of ammo for $17 is making a huge profit off of it, bc likely they are not.

The key to retail is that you always double. Stores get 9mm ammo for about $8.50 a box in pallets.

 

IMHO, when you want bulk plinking ammo, you go to Dicks. When you need Hornady Critical Defense, or Frangibles or something else, it makes more sense to buy it from the LGS.

 

I looked into starting a gun store about a year ago. The markup on gun is ... maybe about 10%. The only way you can make any money is through rentals and selling ammunition at the range. So ammo has to me more expensive for the LGS.

You just need to buy it when its on sale. I have purchased many time $11 9mm, $14 .40 and $17 .45 at NJ B&M stores. You just have to look for the sales. If "you need it now" you are screwed

Where are you looking?

 

You can usually find 9mm for $12 or so locally, Dicks and others, especially when on Sale. Chris @ Bullseye tactical has good prices on ammo too.

 

If you are buying at the range, they face a different issue. They need ammo for the renters. It sucks having to tell someone, no, you cannot rent because they are out of ammo. This was a big issue during the ammo rush.

 

Secondly, there is not an unlimited supply of ammo from what I understood, and the distributors were only shelling out a few cases per FFL, with priority to Law Enforcement.

Ramsey Outdoor has $25 off a $100 purchase coupon that they email every month. You can keep printing the coupon and using it. That's why I buy my Ammo $100 at a time :-)

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Ramsey Outdoor has $25 off a $100 purchase coupon that they email every month. You can keep printing the coupon and using it. That's why I buy my Ammo $100 at a time :-)

 

You should post that coupon in the Hot Deals section.

The ones that are opening are selling labor and services. Not hard goods.

East Brunswick Sportsman. P&K Firearms and Ammo,Red Dot all comes to mind and not attached to ranges and all sell or will be selling hard goods. Then of course the new ranges that are already up and running or in the works that will also be selling arms and ammo. Now in the interest of fairness can anyone list the so called Mom and Pop stores that has closed recently directly due to internet arms and ammo sales?

East Brunswick Sportsman. P&K Firearms and Ammo,Red Dot all comes to mind and not attached to ranges and all sell or will be selling hard goods. Then of course the new ranges that are already up and running or in the works that will also be selling arms and ammo. Now in the interest of fairness can anyone list the so called Mom and Pop stores that has closed recently directly due to internet arms and ammo sales?

 

OK I stand corrected. I really don't know how they do it!

Where are you looking?

 

You can usually find 9mm for $12 or so locally, Dicks and others, especially when on Sale. Chris @ Bullseye tactical has good prices on ammo too.

 

If you are buying at the range, they face a different issue. They need ammo for the renters. It sucks having to tell someone, no, you cannot rent because they are out of ammo. This was a big issue during the ammo rush.

 

Secondly, there is not an unlimited supply of ammo from what I understood, and the distributors were only shelling out a few cases per FFL, with priority to Law Enforcement.

 

Exactly. This is why I cant get 5.7x28 anywhere! Any law enforcement agency that uses the FNH can get it with minimal difficulty. Hopefully someone other than fiocchi will start making this caliber. Rumor has it that american eagle (federal) is going to.

Ken